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The economy was booming before Newt came in
That's a lie and you are a lying sack of shit.
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Let's try these figures, the outcome looks less certain.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election Paul vs. Clinton
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The economy was booming before Newt came in
That's a lie and you are a lying sack of shit.
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The economy was booming before Newt came in
That's a lie and you are a lying sack of shit.
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Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Former FLOTUS, Former Senator from New York, Former Secretary of State, consistently among the most admired persons in the US, widely respected by foreign heads of state...
Superior resume to any GOP and/or DNC challenger who is considered a candidate for 2016.
There's nothing inherently wrong with Wall St. In fact, without the traders we'd not have jobs. But, the gop wants to let the traders bet on derivatives with investor money, and that caused the crash ... in a nutshell. That and supporting the consumer protections of Dodd Frank are, to me, the litmus test.If she does not permanently distance herself from her Wall Street buddies she have to win without my vote.
Here is reality.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
Were you asleep during the midterms?
No.
What happened was the time-honored refudiation of a 6th year President's party....Reagan lost just as many seats (give or take a few) that Obama lost and his positives were quite high. Look it up if you don't believe me.
You also had an unusually large number of blue Senate seats up for election relative to red seats. Such will not be the case in 2016.
The 2016 election will have much more interest and deliver the results I predict:
HRC wins Presidency
Dems win Senate
GOP keeps House
Wow. Nice try. You really must want this bad to deny reality.
Really...who have you asked outside of YOUR circle?All you need to do is ask around a little. And I do mean OUTSIDE your little social circle. There just isn't the stomach for Hillary.
Speak for yourself...I think for myself. If thinking is too complex a task for you to undertake, blame yourself.The only way it is going to happen is if the media is bought off and they have no other option but to constantly beat the drum of Hillary over and over again. It is well known that Americans can't think for themselves. If this is what the media does, then perhaps you are right. But as it stands RIGHT NOW, if the election were tomorrow, NOT A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL.
Well, if you are going to read the tea leaves based on the commentary of a You Tube video....talk about wishful thinking..SNL, a traditionally left leaning show, is a good bell weather. Just look at the comments of this video. I had to go down probably about THIRTY COMMENTS before I could even find the first Hillary supporter. Now that is pretty bad. Oh sure, there was support for the assorted odd democrat here and there for this candidate or that one, but certainly not for Hillary. This is a very bad sign. Your scenario is wistful dreaming Ms. Corn.
Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Former FLOTUS, Former Senator from New York, Former Secretary of State, consistently among the most admired persons in the US, widely respected by foreign heads of state...
Superior resume to any GOP and/or DNC challenger who is considered a candidate for 2016.
Walker would worry me if he had a college degree. That will sink him.
..., how many presidents did NOT have college degrees ? and exactly what does a degree have to do with intelligence, i see it has not helped you one tiny bit.
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Walker doesn't have one. He did GO to college, He met a girl who liked cross-eyed guys and married her.
Yeah, and look at the mess the Ivy Leaguers have given us.... perhaps a drop-out would be a bit refreshing. I mean Obama was supposed to be the smartest guy like ever, and look at the mess he has made in 6 short years.
No kidding..the election is over a year and a half away. But look at the battlefield.
Cruz & Paul have no chance of winning the election. Fact.
That Curz and Paul are in the primaries forces those to their left to move right. Fact.
Once the GOP nomination is settled, whomever wins will have to move back to the middle to attract independents. Fact.
It would be much easier to move back to the middle if they never had to leave it thus fostering consistency and confidence in supporters and voters. Fact.
Hillary will not have to move one iota to win the nomination. Fact.
If the hard right does not get their guy, they stay home as we saw in 2012. Fact.
The hard left will not stay home regardless of who wins the DNC nomination. Fact.
Can Hillary sabotage her campaign? Sure. Ask 47% Mitt about that or the boob who picked Palin for VP... But she won't make the same tactical mistakes she made in 08. For one thing, she can'. For a second thing, the fences have mended between the moderates and Clinton since she came on board for Obama as SoS.
These are not facts; these are your own very biased opinions. You're telling us what you want things to be like, not necessarily how they may be.
One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Former FLOTUS, Former Senator from New York, Former Secretary of State, consistently among the most admired persons in the US, widely respected by foreign heads of state...
Superior resume to any GOP and/or DNC challenger who is considered a candidate for 2016.
Oh palease.... she was briefly a Senator and is a failed/disgraced SoS. Other than that.. being married to the serial sex-offender doesn't qualify her for anything.
If Rubio, Paul, or Walker win the nomination I just have a hard time seeing a shrill, old woman like Hillary ....
Here is reality.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
Were you asleep during the midterms?
No.
What happened was the time-honored refudiation of a 6th year President's party....Reagan lost just as many seats (give or take a few) that Obama lost and his positives were quite high. Look it up if you don't believe me.
You also had an unusually large number of blue Senate seats up for election relative to red seats. Such will not be the case in 2016.
The 2016 election will have much more interest and deliver the results I predict:
HRC wins Presidency
Dems win Senate
GOP keeps House
Wow. Nice try. You really must want this bad to deny reality.
Mitt Romney got 206 electoral votes. It takes 270 to win. Outside of Florida, none of the large blue states look to be in jeopardy in 2016. So it will take 3-4 states to flip for the GOP nominee to get the White House (while keeping all of Romney's wins). It's not going to happen.
Really...who have you asked outside of YOUR circle?All you need to do is ask around a little. And I do mean OUTSIDE your little social circle. There just isn't the stomach for Hillary.
Of the issues dominating the headlines, Hillary is on the right side of the argument with her base and independents..
Speak for yourself...I think for myself. If thinking is too complex a task for you to undertake, blame yourself.The only way it is going to happen is if the media is bought off and they have no other option but to constantly beat the drum of Hillary over and over again. It is well known that Americans can't think for themselves. If this is what the media does, then perhaps you are right. But as it stands RIGHT NOW, if the election were tomorrow, NOT A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL.
If the election were held today, she'd win by 30 points....
But I see what you're doing...laying the groundwork for the excuses....blame the media...blame the voters...blame the world; just don't blame your candidate.
Well, if you are going to read the tea leaves based on the commentary of a You Tube video....talk about wishful thinking..SNL, a traditionally left leaning show, is a good bell weather. Just look at the comments of this video. I had to go down probably about THIRTY COMMENTS before I could even find the first Hillary supporter. Now that is pretty bad. Oh sure, there was support for the assorted odd democrat here and there for this candidate or that one, but certainly not for Hillary. This is a very bad sign. Your scenario is wistful dreaming Ms. Corn.
Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Former FLOTUS, Former Senator from New York, Former Secretary of State, consistently among the most admired persons in the US, widely respected by foreign heads of state...
Superior resume to any GOP and/or DNC challenger who is considered a candidate for 2016.
Oh palease.... she was briefly a Senator and is a failed/disgraced SoS. Other than that.. being married to the serial sex-offender doesn't qualify her for anything.
How long do you have to be a Senator...she won re-election to the job. Your listing her as failure as SOS is interesting, not true but interesting.
Would you be so kind as to list who in the field (announced or not) who has a better resume...from either party?
If Rubio, Paul, or Walker win the nomination I just have a hard time seeing a shrill, old woman like Hillary defeating a young energetic candidate, but anything is possible. This is a country, after all, that elected Obama and Bush twice, so the stupid is strong with Americans.
Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.One smart thing the GOP did was limit the number of debates. On the surface, at least, this was smart because it gives the whackjob candidacies of Cruz and Paul less official forums to announce their positions. Contrary to the belief that the Parties pick the candidtes; they actually have very little authority over them let alone control what they say. The flip side is that the urge to make a "big splash" may be too great for either of them to understand. Those who are looking to put their marker down somewhere between the hard right and the moderate right are probably the most dangerous.
Every karem to or pander toward the hard right forces the eventual nominee to move in that direction. This will, of course, hamstring him in the general election when the enevitable move back to the center has to be made.
The reason Hillary will win is because no such force sits to her left which would force her to react in such an irrational manner. Also, if such a force were to materialize, there would still be no need for Clinton to make the move; the voters on the hard left will be there for her in November. If we learned anything from 2012 it is that the hard right will abandon a GOP candidate that is seen as not willing to carry their water and message.
Obama fatigue and the ocassional flub (if they are ocassional) and tactical mis-step of the Clinton campaign will play a role as well but there shouldn't be enough of them to swing the election.
She isn't a shoo-in for the Presidency; there is still a long way to go. But it would be hard to imagine a better set-up for Secretary Clinton than what has happened in the last few weeks with Cruz, Paul and Rubio entering the race
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Former FLOTUS, Former Senator from New York, Former Secretary of State, consistently among the most admired persons in the US, widely respected by foreign heads of state...
Superior resume to any GOP and/or DNC challenger who is considered a candidate for 2016.
Oh palease.... she was briefly a Senator and is a failed/disgraced SoS. Other than that.. being married to the serial sex-offender doesn't qualify her for anything.
How long do you have to be a Senator...she won re-election to the job. Your listing her as failure as SOS is interesting, not true but interesting.
Would you be so kind as to list who in the field (announced or not) who has a better resume...from either party?
Everyone.
Please list her accomplishments. I'll start.
1. Logged many miles of flight. (I have to admit, I got that from hillary herself.)
2.
Former FLOTUS, Former Senator from New York, Former Secretary of State, consistently among the most admired persons in the US, widely respected by foreign heads of state...
Superior resume to any GOP and/or DNC challenger who is considered a candidate for 2016.
Oh palease.... she was briefly a Senator and is a failed/disgraced SoS. Other than that.. being married to the serial sex-offender doesn't qualify her for anything.
How long do you have to be a Senator...she won re-election to the job. Your listing her as failure as SOS is interesting, not true but interesting.
Would you be so kind as to list who in the field (announced or not) who has a better resume...from either party?
Everyone.
Standard GOP cop out....I hope you're not this impotent in real life.