Why has this message board got so personal to the left?

[peach174]

I have to agree

Obama has been unable to unite the country like George Bush did

After 9-11, America united behind President Bush and gave him an 83% approval rate

By the time he left, America had once again united in disapproval of everything Bush was doing an gave him only a 23% approval rating

He is not leading the nation, all he is doing is dividing the nation.
Even the Dems are complaining that he will not meet with them to work things out.

Obama came in with a Republican Party unwilling to compromise on any Obama intiative. He has a Congress that will vote against anything that Obama proposes....even if it is something they, themselves proposed in the past

Republicans have taken a position that if they cannot lead the nation.....Nobody will

That is not true.
They compromised on quite a few of things.
The most recent compromise that Repubs did was raising the debt ceiling.

 

[BlindBoo]

I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

Well lets just take your first claim that President Obama is a failure. It's simply not true. Despite the fact that the pseudo-cons have been calling his presidency a failure since before he took office, and he is still in the middle of his presidency. So unless you have a time machine and have proof of the future, yours is merely more hateful specualtion. Also considering the Stock Market (Dow) was hoovering around 8,000 when he took office and bottomed out about 6500. It is now around 14,000. Indicators are showing an improving economy and growth is expected in the private sector. Furthermore the economy was loosing 500,000 to 700,000 jobs per month. Now at least we are seeing positive job growth, this despite the fact that the Republican controlled house is not able to, or refuses to reach across the isle and compromise on a jobs bill.

The Republican hatred for this president seems to know no bounds.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

All true, Obama is half way to his goal of destroying United States, he now will go after your pocketbook through taxes and fees to bring you to your knees-- Its crazy but Obama followers seem to want a communist country ,and they will get there wish.

How true!

A certain part of the population already votes in a mindless lockstep, just like the people in Cuba and North Korea do.

In Obama they see Kim Jong Il and Fidel Castro personified.

So we are all back to assertions and conclusions, without any rationale or reason. How utterly silly, foolish.

 

[BlindBoo]

Gas prices doubled immediately and have stayed there ever since.
Economic growth is practically at a standstill.
No attempt whatsoever is being made to curb spending.

I love it when the pseudo-conz try to pull the price of gas out of context of the Bush recession.

On 09/29/2008 the price of regular unleaded was $3.8990
On 09/30/2009 the price of regular unleaded was $2.6590

Neither President Bush nor President Obama had much to do with the price of gas at the pump.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You can FEEL that way, but it's not true, nor was it ever true. Which is why even his pretend leadership is ineffective.

Nothing personal

It is "We the People" who feel that way

Given a non-stop smear campaign from the right, We the People prefer a Kenyan over the best the GOP has to offer

It's not We the People. It's We OUR people. The rest of the people will not accept his leadership or lack of leadership.

If you look at it realistically, what would be the result if a republican had been elected? Would democrats accept his leadership? No. Another republican that won by the same small margin as obama did would be treated just like Bush was. I guarantee you that if Romney had won with 51% of the votes, no democrat would be saying We the People.

The nation is dividing with each side unwilling to accept the other. The left and right are building entire support structures. They each have their own media, their own news outlets, their own institutions, increasingly their own schools, their own cities. Sometimes, even their own states. Fewer and fewer even deal with one another on a personal level. As was true in times of the Civil War, entire families have separated.

It's called political segregation. Sometimes called clustering. Democrats can look around, see all those other democrats and honestly believe they have an overwhelming majority. They don't. It is worse than that, because neither side is willing to accept the political leadership of the other side. That's why there is gridlock in politics. It's why both democrats and republicans view the other side not merely political opposition but downright enemies.

That's why differences are more personal and more partisan. Running around blathering about "we the people" isn't going to change that.

Yes, it is We the People. You can do it the way that this has been played since 1789, or you can resist lawfully but nothing else. If you are a very small minority, without any power. Your blathering is pathetic and painful. Grow up, mature, or continue to suffer.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Since you are counting those that choose not to vote, you could say the same thing about every president in the history of the United States. Fail.

It is true about every president in the history of the United States. But, in the past, the ones who didn't vote, or voted for an opposing party was willing to accept the winner's leadership. That's what has changed. At the end of the day, after the election, we were all united in the goals, even if we had differences of how to get there. That isn't true any more. It isn't that obama won by a small majority, it's that very close to half the nation, or more than that if you count the entirety of people who didn't vote for him, is unwilling to accept his role.

OP. The cause is the most divisive president in history.

Absolutely false. The cause is the most divisive small minority since 1861.

 

[Truthmatters]

There has been NO incompetance on Obamas part.


the facts dont agreee with your partisan claim

Surely you can't mean that Obama has done all this destruction of the American Life on purpose do you?

Can there be any doubt? Even the most incompetent person would have a success once in a while. The law of averages is on that side. obama's actions are deliberately taken. On purpose. What you are not understanding is that what obama is doing IS a success to liberals. That's why he's not seen as incompetent. Ruin the economy, that's a plus. Contraction of the economy and a rising unemployment rate are all desirable outcomes. Reduce the effectiveness of our armed forces, that's a plus. Rip apart the social fabric, that's a good thing.

Arguing over whether obama has been incompetent with a liberal is a lost cause. Everything he's done has not been destructive, it's an improvement. They will give you a list of the most destructive things he's done as if they were building blocks of societal stability.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsDmPEeurfA]President Bush Addresses Nation on Economic Crisis - YouTube[/ame]



you will NEVER succed in lying about who crashed the economy

 

[Intense]

Gas prices doubled immediately and have stayed there ever since.
Economic growth is practically at a standstill.
No attempt whatsoever is being made to curb spending.

Gas prices always tie into Economic growth.

 

[Truthmatters]

Bush crashed the eocnomy a nd NOT Obama.

lying about it will never never work for your idiot party

 

[Truthmatters]

Wars in the middle east sure as hell do impact the price of oil

 

[Intense]

I have to agree

Obama has been unable to unite the country like George Bush did

After 9-11, America united behind President Bush and gave him an 83% approval rate

By the time he left, America had once again united in disapproval of everything Bush was doing an gave him only a 23% approval rating

He is not leading the nation, all he is doing is dividing the nation.
Even the Dems are complaining that he will not meet with them to work things out.

Obama came in with a Republican Party unwilling to compromise on any Obama intiative. He has a Congress that will vote against anything that Obama proposes....even if it is something they, themselves proposed in the past

Republicans have taken a position that if they cannot lead the nation.....Nobody will

Obama came into Office telling the Republican Party to Fuck Off, and it's gone down hill from there. Progressive Statists in both Parties, spending on borrowed money, are what is killing us. Keep trying to justify those $100.00 Band-aids, rather than question why we are being ripped off in the first place.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I think the libs are feeling a little remorse
They got what they wanted

Every post I have posted with factual info within is met with anger in just a few threads

BHO is a failure
the country is in a mess
and they know it

Its not rocket science

I feel sorry for this country
Its future
and those who allowed it to happen who will have to deal with it
hate never fixed anything and the hate for W still drives there entire agenda
Its nuts

we are 4 million jobs short of where we were in 07
the debt has doubled in 4 years
the GDP is going south

And there talking about Amnesty
it is nuts

Just say no to drugs.

You should take your own advice.

 

[BlindBoo]

obama was not overwhelmingly elected. In 2012 he was elected with fewer votes than in 2008. He was elected with a bare majority of 1%. That's the people who voted. More people didn't vote for obama than voted for him. To democrats it's an overwhelming majority. They are motivated by feelings and that makes them feel good. The reality is, obama won election by such a small number that those who still oppose him are enough to make the country ungovernable.

Since you are counting those that choose not to vote, you could say the same thing about every president in the history of the United States. Fail.

It is true about every president in the history of the United States. But, in the past, the ones who didn't vote, or voted for an opposing party was willing to accept the winner's leadership. That's what has changed. At the end of the day, after the election, we were all united in the goals, even if we had differences of how to get there. That isn't true any more. It isn't that obama won by a small majority, it's that very close to half the nation, or more than that if you count the entirety of people who didn't vote for him, is unwilling to accept his role.

Reminds me of Lincolns' elections. It's really only a hatefull minority of the losing party that has been unwilling to accept the fact that they lost, twice. They obstructed as much as they could. Look for them to start losing the states they still control.

 

[rightwinger]

He is not leading the nation, all he is doing is dividing the nation.
Even the Dems are complaining that he will not meet with them to work things out.

Obama came in with a Republican Party unwilling to compromise on any Obama intiative. He has a Congress that will vote against anything that Obama proposes....even if it is something they, themselves proposed in the past

Republicans have taken a position that if they cannot lead the nation.....Nobody will

That is not true.
They compromised on quite a few of things.
The most recent compromise that Repubs did was raising the debt ceiling.

That was not a compromise...that was their job

 

[Mad Scientist]

Bush crashed the eocnomy a nd NOT Obama.

lying about it will never never work for your idiot party

It was actually Hank Paulson who did it.

 

[Truthmatters]

He is not leading the nation, all he is doing is dividing the nation.
Even the Dems are complaining that he will not meet with them to work things out.

Obama came in with a Republican Party unwilling to compromise on any Obama intiative. He has a Congress that will vote against anything that Obama proposes....even if it is something they, themselves proposed in the past

Republicans have taken a position that if they cannot lead the nation.....Nobody will

Obama came into Office telling the Republican Party to Fuck Off, and it's gone down hill from there. Progressive Statists in both Parties, spending on borrowed money, are what is killing us. Keep trying to justify those $100.00 Band-aids, rather than question why we are being ripped off in the first place.

Nope that is not true.

Obama tried to reach out adn your right wing republicans said Immediately that their number ont priortity was to end his polictical carreer.

AFTER the scum bags had promised their voters that their number one goal was to help the people.


It was the right who said Fuck Off.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Smart move on the debt ceiling move by the GOP.

The ball is now on the Dems in the Senate.

 

[rightwinger]

He is not leading the nation, all he is doing is dividing the nation.
Even the Dems are complaining that he will not meet with them to work things out.

Obama came in with a Republican Party unwilling to compromise on any Obama intiative. He has a Congress that will vote against anything that Obama proposes....even if it is something they, themselves proposed in the past

Republicans have taken a position that if they cannot lead the nation.....Nobody will

Obama came into Office telling the Republican Party to Fuck Off, and it's gone down hill from there. Progressive Statists in both Parties, spending on borrowed money, are what is killing us. Keep trying to justify those $100.00 Band-aids, rather than question why we are being ripped off in the first place.

Yes he did

After Republicans had the audacity to proclaim they intended to rule from the bottom. They were in no position to set terms and the President told them so

 

[Truthmatters]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc]Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President - YouTube[/ame]

 

[LordBrownTrout]

they will if you teach them to point guns at people.

Vicky Weaver had her baby in her arms when she was shot and killed by a FBI sniper.

Sammy Weaver, 14, watched a camo clad figure shoot and kill his dog before he fired at the trespasser. He was shot in the back as ran back to his house by a US Marshall.

The cops had a right to fire at someone who had fired at them.

That boy died becuase his father taught him to shoot at people with a gun.


If the boy had been a black panthers son you would have cheered his death

Simply not true. Weaver nor his son ever shot at the FBI.