Why has racism become politically and commercially acceptable?

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Is there a way to discriminate without it being wrong as far as skin color goes ??
Good question for such a topic and, yes. Where historical patterns of institutional discrimination against minority classes become evident, the powerful majority is obliged to discriminate against itself until said evident patterns are eliminated. We'd obviously all prefer just being left TF alone. But as we've seen with COVID19, choosing not to carefully test, scientifically evaluate, and adjust isn't really an option.
This process allows for citizens to maintain individual rights while following the direction of the majority. It also allows for the citizens to make changes to the laws as society, the majorities, and the minorities change.
Change they will. Then comes payback time.. :whip:
 

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Is there a way to discriminate without it being wrong as far as skin color goes ??
Good question for such a topic and, yes. Where historical patterns of institutional discrimination against minority classes become evident, the powerful majority is obliged to discriminate against itself until said evident patterns are eliminated. We'd obviously all prefer just being left TF alone. But as we've seen with COVID19, choosing not to carefully test, scientifically evaluate, and adjust isn't really an option.
This process allows for citizens to maintain individual rights while following the direction of the majority. It also allows for the citizens to make changes to the laws as society, the majorities, and the minorities change.
Change they will. Then comes payback time.. :whip:
That you think whites were advantaged is a rational argument for you to personally give black businesses preference. Government, however, should never discriminate in any direction
 

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That you think whites were advantaged is a rational argument for you to personally give black businesses preference. Government, however, should never discriminate in any direction
Wrong. Again, government is not just obliged to just "think whites" this or that. It's obliged to monitor the situation with respect to minorities, then act to correct any systemic problems it identifies. Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired as firefighters, for example, then government is morally and legally obliged to take corrective action. Discriminating against qualified white applicants as needed to balance the level of opportunity. Personal choice doesn't enter into it.
 

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That you think whites were advantaged is a rational argument for you to personally give black businesses preference. Government, however, should never discriminate in any direction
Wrong. Again, government is not just obliged to just "think whites" this or that. It's obliged to monitor the situation with respect to minorities, then act to correct any systemic problems it identifies. Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired as firefighters, for example, then government is morally and legally obliged to take corrective action. Discriminating against qualified white applicants as needed to balance the level of opportunity. Personal choice doesn't enter into it.
Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcomes.
 

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That you think whites were advantaged is a rational argument for you to personally give black businesses preference. Government, however, should never discriminate in any direction
Wrong. Again, government is not just obliged to just "think whites" this or that. It's obliged to monitor the situation with respect to minorities, then act to correct any systemic problems it identifies. Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired as firefighters, for example, then government is morally and legally obliged to take corrective action. Discriminating against qualified white applicants as needed to balance the level of opportunity. Personal choice doesn't enter into it.
Yeah, government cares about "minorities," not it's own power. They only act because darn it, they care. Once the discrimination and the effects of discrimination end, then they'll willingly give up the power!

About a decade or so ago, the Federal government ended a tax on phones that was enacted ... to fund ... the Spanish American war ...

Feel behind your ears, it's actually wet, isn't it?

That you fix discrimination with discrimination is as stupid an idea as it sounds
 

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It's an extortion scam engineered by mostly democrat politicians and supported by the liberal media. Democrats need a victim core and no matter how successful Black people are the media and democrats will try to convince them that they are being victimized. They are going to keep the pressure on until election day hoping that they can get a doddering old mentally incompetent democrat elected.
 

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Is there a way to discriminate without it being wrong as far as skin color goes ??
Good question for such a topic and, yes. Where historical patterns of institutional discrimination against minority classes become evident, the powerful majority is obliged to discriminate against itself until said evident patterns are eliminated. We'd obviously all prefer just being left TF alone. But as we've seen with COVID19, choosing not to carefully test, scientifically evaluate, and adjust isn't really an option.
This process allows for citizens to maintain individual rights while following the direction of the majority. It also allows for the citizens to make changes to the laws as society, the majorities, and the minorities change.
Change they will. Then comes payback time.. :whip:
Why do you take my post out of context ??
 

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It's an extortion scam engineered by mostly democrat politicians and supported by the liberal media. Democrats need a victim core and no matter how successful Black people are the media and democrats will try to convince them that they are being victimized. They are going to keep the pressure on until election day hoping that they can get a doddering old mentally incompetent democrat elected.
Exactly. Agree.
 

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Is there a way to discriminate without it being wrong as far as skin color goes ??
Good question for such a topic and, yes. Where historical patterns of institutional discrimination against minority classes become evident, the powerful majority is obliged to discriminate against itself until said evident patterns are eliminated. We'd obviously all prefer just being left TF alone. But as we've seen with COVID19, choosing not to carefully test, scientifically evaluate, and adjust isn't really an option.
This process allows for citizens to maintain individual rights while following the direction of the majority. It also allows for the citizens to make changes to the laws as society, the majorities, and the minorities change.
Change they will. Then comes payback time.. :whip:
Why do you take my post out of context ??
Why would the context make a difference?
 

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Gov really shouldn’t promote any business...
 

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It is all just simple pavlovian conditioning as far as I,'m concerned. Stupid people say the politically correct thing and other stupid people reward them for it through praise. They feel virtuous, and so all the stupid people reinforce each other so as to feel good about themselves.

Most of these dolts have a low sense of self esteem and are nothing in their lives that they find truly fulfilling, so are easily sucked in to all this empty and pathetic virtue signaling.
 

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Check your privilege, buddy.
A lot of things in life and by your words you typed is who controls the agendas? Does racism exist? If so to what degree? And who declared that some groups can not be bigots, have prejudice be racists and live by hate? Well Progs that came to power in the last half century have taken over the conversation. This is a dangerous game. For you are affecting many people who do the real producing in our nation.
 

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Can you imagine an app exclusively for white people and promoted by your local government?
Yep, I can imagine it. I can imagine one for blacks too. However, what I've yet to see is an example of "government" actually doing either. Facebook, Instagram, .. sure.
 

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That you think whites were advantaged is a rational argument for you to personally give black businesses preference. Government, however, should never discriminate in any direction
Wrong. Again, government is not just obliged to just "think whites" this or that. It's obliged to monitor the situation with respect to minorities, then act to correct any systemic problems it identifies. Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired as firefighters, for example, then government is morally and legally obliged to take corrective action. Discriminating against qualified white applicants as needed to balance the level of opportunity. Personal choice doesn't enter into it.
"Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired"

And therein lies the problem.

So you agree then, that we shouldn't lower the bar to accommodate someone who isn't qualified?!?
 
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That you think whites were advantaged is a rational argument for you to personally give black businesses preference. Government, however, should never discriminate in any direction
Wrong. Again, government is not just obliged to just "think whites" this or that. It's obliged to monitor the situation with respect to minorities, then act to correct any systemic problems it identifies. Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired as firefighters, for example, then government is morally and legally obliged to take corrective action. Discriminating against qualified white applicants as needed to balance the level of opportunity. Personal choice doesn't enter into it.
"Where it's become clear that qualified blacks are applying but not being hired"

And therein lies the problem.

So you agree then, that we shouldn't lower the bar to accommodate someone who isn't qualified?!?
Sure. Given a collectively agreed upon, lawyer approved test. Why not?
 

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Check your privilege, buddy.
Privilege is a term based upon the economic happenstance of a person's birth and applies to those born into wealthy, powerful families. You know nothing of his upbringing, and so your use of this accusation is patently stupid.
 

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It still applies to one's skin color as well.
 

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The Left is certainly contributing to our racial problems by being blatantly hypocritical. This is just one example.

The most glaring example, of course, is a Presidential candidate who chooses to restrict his veep choices to people without dicks and of the acceptable skin color.

As bad as the Right is on race, the Left has its own fucking issues. A little honest self-reflection from both whacked-out ends would be nice.
Mac you are contributing to the continuance of racism and this kind of ignorance of history is why you lose credibility. White male presidents have restricted choices only to white men during all of our history and never has anyone thought about that as a problem. Maybe you drop your wacked out notions of equivalence.
 
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