Why Gun Control Cant stop school and workplace shootings

[martybegan]

Proving you WRONG once again.

This is NOT ........... "A Total and Complete Disarming of Americans."

Tell the LIE again, and again.
Please, tell the LIE again.

it's the end goal for all of these groups, and for people like you as well, They and you just lie about it.

 

[Hafar1014]

The want to end gun violence. That's their stated goal.
As long as there are guns, there will be gun-related violence.
Thus, they want to not just ban guns but remove them from the hands of everyone - including the state.

Then why dont they focus on the process which is the violent person. They only care about the gun and the violent person is still there. Why dont they want to remove all violence? They never talk about that because all they care about is the gun. They will increase violence

At a Glance: Key Defensive Gun Use Figures​

• Studies estimate between 60,000 and 2.5 million instances of defensive gun use each year.
• The annual average of reported DGUs is approximately 1.82 million, compared to 1.1 million reported criminal offenses.
• Around 2.07 million Americans carry firearms regularly for self-defense.
• A person is 85% more likely to defend themselves with a gun than to be fatally shot by one.
• The typical defensive shooting occurs at a distance of three yards.

 

[Concerned American]

Then why dont they focus on the process which is the violent person. They only care about the gun and the violent person is still there. Why dont they want to remove all violence? They never talk about that because all they care about is the gun. They will increase violence

At a Glance: Key Defensive Gun Use Figures​

• Studies estimate between 60,000 and 2.5 million instances of defensive gun use each year.
• The annual average of reported DGUs is approximately 1.82 million, compared to 1.1 million reported criminal offenses.
• Around 2.07 million Americans carry firearms regularly for self-defense.
• A person is 85% more likely to defend themselves with a gun than to be fatally shot by one.
• The typical defensive shooting occurs at a distance of three yards.

I witnessed a man packing a sidearm at my local Walmart this week. Not an unusual occurrence and gee, we haven't had any shootings in our town. Hmmm.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The anti gun mind sees a man shooting people and blames the gun. Their solution take the gun away. Thats observable behavior but not process. We are still left with the killer.

This also points out the fallacy of Red Flag laws, where firearms are taken from someone who might be a threat to himself or others.
Take the gun, ignore the threat.

 

[Hafar1014]

I witnessed a man packing a sidearm at my local Walmart this week. Not an unusual occurrence and gee, we haven't had any shootings in our town. Hmmm.

Thats not a good ides you should never see it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Then why dont they focus on the process which is the violent person.

Because they just want to ban guns, and are willing to create whatever lies necessary to do it.

 

[Dragonlady]

I learned a valuable lesson in graduate school from a teacher everyone hated but he was brilliant with 2 PhDs in psychology and divinity. I had an assignment to analyze a family conflict. So I bring back my paper he reads it tells me its worthless and tosses it in my direction like garbage. He did stuff like that. After I suppressed the desire to punch his lights out I asked whats wrong with it. He said its all observable behavior whats the process. Thats whats really going on causing the behavior numbskull. I pause to suppress my initial desire. Then the light bulb went off in my head. Now for my point.

The anti gun mind sees a man shooting people and blames the gun. Their solution take the gun away. Thats observable behavior but not process. We are still left with the killer.

The process is a determined mentally ill person who in many cases intends to die is doing the killing. We address the process by stopping him in advance. That can be done because in most cases they expose themselves or have a long history of violence and mental illness. We need the ability to mandate long term or treatment for life. (That doesnt mean locking people up).

To those who claim well a gun makes it easy. How about running people over with a car. Should we take all the cars away. Pressure cooker bomb like they used in Boston. Address the process not the tool you can see

What stupidity.

Why don't you look at why other first world nations don't have mass shootings on a daily basis?

Why don't you look at the rate of gun related murders and deaths in other nations which have banned semi-automatic weapons??

Why do you ignore the correlation between the availability of guns in the USA, and the rate of gun deaths and injuries in the USA?

But no, let's ignore the obvious, and say "nothing can be done".

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Here is a thought, every gun in this country should be registered, just like a car.

They should make a policy that everyone in this country has one year from the day the policy is signed to register their guns. After that if you are caught with an unregistered gun it is a mandatory 5yr jail sentence, if you are caught committing a crime with an unregistered gun it should be a mandatory 10yrs added to your sentence.

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No.

There are growing groups of gun owners in many states, formally and publicly refusing to register any firearms they own.

Do you have to register every knife you own?






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[Concerned American]

Thats not a good ides you should never see it.

IDGAF if it is concealed or not. That differentiation is not mentioned in the constitution and has absolutely no bearing on "keeping and bearing" arms. Why would you hide it except to placate liberals.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What stupidity.

What irony.

Why don't you look at the rate of gun related murders and deaths in other nations which have banned semi-automatic weapons??
Why do you ignore the correlation between the availability of guns in the USA, and the rate of gun deaths and injuries in the USA?

Look at you, stupid enough to believe correlation proves causation..

 

[Concerned American]

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No.

There are growing groups of gun owners in many states, formally and publicly refusing to register any firearms they own.

Do you have to register every knife you own?






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I don't think you can buy a new weapon in the US without filling out a federal firearms form for a background check--the weapon is noted on the form, so I guess that is a form of registration.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

So, you would like to be on the losing side of a civil war?

What Civil War would the be?

 

[JLW]

AI disagrees with the OP. The Assault Weapons ban was working.

During the 1994-2004 Federal Assault Weapons Ban (FAWB), the rate of mass shootings and related fatalities decreased, while general homicide rates also fell. The trend for mass shootings reversed, rising steeply, after the ban was allowed to expire in 2004.

Key Findings on Gun Violence During the Ban

• Mass Shooting Fatalities: Several studies found that the risk of a person dying in a mass shooting was approximately 70% lower during the ten years the ban was active compared to the periods immediately before and after its implementation.
• Mass Shooting Incidents: The overall upward trajectory in the number of public mass shootings was interrupted and trended downward while the FAWB was in place. One study estimated that the ban prevented up to 11 public mass shootings during that decade.
• Weapon Use: The share of recovered crime guns that were assault weapons declined in several major cities during the ban. The use of assault weapons in mass shootings decreased by half during the ban and tripled after it was lifted.

Some of us care about the living and some don't.

 

[22lcidw]

Here is a thought, every gun in this country should be registered, just like a car.

They should make a policy that everyone in this country has one year from the day the policy is signed to register their guns. After that if you are caught with an unregistered gun it is a mandatory 5yr jail sentence, if you are caught committing a crime with an unregistered gun it should be a mandatory 10yrs added to your sentence.

That comes from trusting your politicians. Since we see politicians changing views due to parties changing views, you live and die with it.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

That comes from trusting your politicians. Since we see politicians changing views due to parties changing views, you live and die with it.

Why would I trust politicians?

 

[Billiejeens]

Here is a thought, every gun in this country should be registered, just like a car.

They should make a policy that everyone in this country has one year from the day the policy is signed to register their guns. After that if you are caught with an unregistered gun it is a mandatory 5yr jail sentence, if you are caught committing a crime with an unregistered gun it should be a mandatory 10yrs added to your sentence.

That would clean up your hood?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

That would clean up your hood?

It would clean up.yours as well.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Here is a thought, every gun in this country should be registered, just like a car.

They should make a policy that everyone in this country has one year from the day the policy is signed to register their guns. After that if you are caught with an unregistered gun it is a mandatory 5yr jail sentence, if you are caught committing a crime with an unregistered gun it should be a mandatory 10yrs added to your sentence.

How would this stop gun violence? Specifically. Explain it like you're a law maker. Lay it out...win the masses over with with brilliance.

Like you are Jasmine Crockett

 

[Billiejeens]

How would this stop gun violence? Specifically. Explain it like you're a law maker. Lay it out...win the masses over with with brilliance.

Like you are Jasmine Crockett

That one might actually be Crockett

 

[bambu.]

Australia and the US are two very different beasts.

Australia has guns, 4 million registered as per 2024.
Has 86,000 farms.
Bolt action guns only.
Most guns are on farms...separate category 'sporting shooter'.

The Bondi alleged terrorists were 'sporting shooters', trained at a gun club near their home.

Son shooter was investigated 6 years ago as regards 'terrorism links'...'by association'. Declared as 'low risk, yet there he allegedly was slaughtering people at Bondi...with the guns registered to his father who lived at the same address.
Hellooooo!

ASIO needs better funding and more freedom/ability to update its data bases/computer systems and investigate everyone who's ever come to their attention.

Had there been heavily armed cops/soldiers guarding the Jewish festival there would not have been the terror attack.
There are billions of taxpayer dollars being spent on election promises for things that don't really matter much...time some of it is spent on proper security!