Zone1 Why dont Jews believe Jesus is their messiah?

Which, according to the OT, miracles are a sign of fake messiahs trying to fool everyone.
Which reminds me. Why does early christian art show jesus holding an egyptian magic sceptre?
In fact, I believe moses had one too.
 
I think it's all just BS.....Oh damn, now I've done it.

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Yeah, he was born from a woman. His friend betrayed him. He got spat on. But none of those matter. The messianic age didnt happen.
The messianic age has yet to be fulfilled. We are just now coming to the end of the Age of the Gentile. The age that takes us to the brink of the total destruction of life on this earth. When that was prophesied, that concept was an impossibility.
The Bible outlines the timeframe. It tells us more about this time than any other time, including the time Christ walked the earth.

Jesus' friend did betray Him, as prophesied, even down to the amount of silver that was paid to Judas, and what he did with it. When Judas realized what he had done, he was so filled with remorse, that he committed suicide.
Christ was spat on. In fact, the first 3 hours on the cross were for the purpose of humiliation. It was set up to promote His shame. Instead, Jesus displayed love. Forgive them, ABBA, they know not what they do.
It also fulfilled the prophecy of His robe being gambled for.
 
The messianic age has yet to be fulfilled. We are just now coming to the end of the Age of the Gentile. The age that takes us to the brink of the total destruction of life on this earth. When that was prophesied, that concept was an impossibility.
The Bible outlines the timeframe. It tells us more about this time than any other time, including the time Christ walked the earth.

Jesus' friend did betray Him, as prophesied, even down to the amount of silver that was paid to Judas, and what he did with it. When Judas realized what he had done, he was so filled with remorse, that he committed suicide.
Christ was spat on. In fact, the first 3 hours on the cross were for the purpose of humiliation. It was set up to promote His shame. Instead, Jesus displayed love. Forgive them, ABBA, they know not what they do.
It also fulfilled the prophecy of His robe being gambled for.
I get there are stories about that stuff, but he did not fulfill the original messianic age prophecies.
Not a single one. So, now, he has to come back to fulfill it.
I find that weird. Humans dont live for thousands of years in the sky.
 
Jews don’t accept Jesus as their Messiah.

Ok. They don’t have to.

Christians don’t accept that the Messiah has not yet arrived.

Ok. They don’t have to.

None of the prophecies are all that terribly clear. So there is room for debate, discussion or disbelief.

Again: it doesn’t matter.
 
Humans dont disappear for 2k years and then reappear. If it happens, they arent human. The messiah will be human, according to THEIR prophecies.
He didnt complete the prophecies, t
Oh, but they do. And they were seen accompanying Jesus when He returned. The Temple Priests who witnessed it gave testimony, mentioned King David specifically. One of the men they saw was a priest who had died recently and was seen at his house. The priests went and got him, took him to the Temple and took his testimony. Those humans all stuck around for over a month, and left with Christ when He ascended.
 
The "Jewish" messiah is the end time Christian messiah. Jesus first coming embarrassed the Jews...unforgiveable.
They thought they had need of nothing -- the leadership anyway.

They never understood that all their rituals pointed to His first coming.

If the really understood the Passover, they would have embraced Him
 
I get there are stories about that stuff, but he did not fulfill the original messianic age prophecies.
Not a single one. So, now, he has to come back to fulfill it.
I find that weird. Humans dont live for thousands of years in the sky.
But he didn't come here the first time for that purpose. He came here as a sacrificial lamb. His purpose the first time was to pay for our sin so we could have direct contact with God again.
His second return will be to stop us from killing all life on earth. That's humans, grass, trees, all life. < that was an impossibility at the time of His first appearance. That is how you know that they are two different missions at two different times..
All life wasn't in peril back then. It is now. The things He told us to look for prior to His second coming, didn't exist 2,000 years ago. The fact that we now are capable of fulfilling that prophesy, tells you about where we are concerning his missions. First the Lamb. Next, the Lion of the tribe of Judah.

Humans don't live in the sky for thousands of years. That's a correct statement. They do however live quite well in a different dimension. In fact, scientists believes they have picked up waves that could be coming from a parallel dimension. God told us in Genesis about dimensions. After all this time, science has finally agreed with God. 4 seen 6+ unseen. One of those dimensions has mansions, reunified families, streets paved with a translucent form of gold, and pure love.
 
The wages of sin is DEATH, but the GIFT of God is eternal life...

The soul that sins, it shall DIE
It shall die a second death doesn't mean a second loss of life though. It means those souls are going to go through another transformation.
During the millennial reign of Christ, Satan is chained. But then He is unchained at the end of it and the two go at it. It culminates with the White Throne Judgment Seat of Christ, where the souls of those who passed on Christ's gift and instead died with their sin still attached are brought forth from the earth and the sea to be judged along with Hell, Satan and his followers. They aren't sentenced to death. They are dispatched to the Lake of Fire for eternity. Christ never kills Satan. He puts him away permanently.
 
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The age that takes us to the brink of the total destruction of life on this earth. When that was prophesied, that concept was an impossibility.

you must have missed the boat and came back to life ... in fact the crucifixion of jesus was the reversal of the heavenly noah event -

turning humanity back again to a course of servitude and denial using their biblical religions jesus and the 1st century events are meant to repudiate - the false commandments of moses and hereditary idolatry, apartheid of abraham et al - judaism.

jesus never claimed to be the jewish messiah much less a jew they were a pawn of the heavens hopping only to bring heaven to earth.
 
Jews don’t accept Jesus as their Messiah.

Ok. They don’t have to.

Christians don’t accept that the Messiah has not yet arrived.

Ok. They don’t have to.

None of the prophecies are all that terribly clear. So there is room for debate, discussion or disbelief.

Again: it doesn’t matter.
Actually no, Daniel gives us a freaking calendar to time when the Messiah should come from his time hundreds of years prior and points right to the time of Christ.

It is the most amazing prophesy I have ever seen.

Daniel 9:24-27​

New International Version​

24 “Seventy ‘sevens’[a] are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish[b] transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.[c]
25 “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One,[d] the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.[e] The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[f] In the middle of the ‘seven’[g] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[h] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Let me guess, you can't make hides or tails out of it, right?

Right.

The term Anointed one is in reference to the Messiah because that is the translation of Messiah. When looking in the OT, we find this a handful of places, but most of them are in reference to anointing kings of Israel like Saul and David. Why is this important? It is important because all other Messianic prophesies are interpreted as being Messianic in origin. However, there is no need for interpretation here because Messiah is spelled out for us.

This is the only verifiable futuristic reference to a coming Messiah or anointed one. In fact, it is a calendar for the coming Messiah that Christians believe was Christ.

The first Christian on record that made the observation that this was a calendar for the coming Messiah appears to have been Justin Martyr who lived from 153 to 165 AD. What is strange, however, is that he never made any written explanation as to calculating the time of the Daniel prophesy to the time of Jesus.

Then came Irenaeus (ca. A.D. 180) who also associated the verse with the calendar for Christ but failed to give us an explanation of the calculation.

However, Clement of Alexandria (ca. A.D. 200) gave it a go as he was the first Christian writer to explain the time periods in Daniel 9, although he was a bit vague about the details. For him:

    • The “most holy” one (Dan 9:24) is Jesus Christ.
    • The 490 years began with Cyrus.
    • The first seven weeks (49 years) were the period of the construction of the temple.
    • The 62 weeks led up to the first advent of Christ.
    • The final week includes Nero’s erection of an “abomination” in Jerusalem as well as the destruction of the city and temple in AD 70.
Clement, therefore, included both Jesus Christ and the destruction of Jerusalem in the 490 years. But this implies a gap between the first 69 weeks and the last week.

From then on, there have been, and continue to be, a myriad of Christian theologians who tried their hand at the calculations, which was difficult for various reasons. First off, the wording in Daniel is weird as they used strange verbiage to describe the passing of time. Secondly, the Jewish calendar Daniel used was different from the Gregorian calendar we all use today. For example, the Jewish calendar has 360 days and ours has 365 days. Then factor in the leap year problem. Not only do you have to factor them in, not all centuries on the Gregorian calendar had leap years as the Gregorian calendar therefore omits three leap days every 400 years. And lastly, the original translation was in Hebrew. Only those who were experts in Hebrew had no problem with the wording, or the calendar. So, over the years the calculations seem to have been getting better and better as theologians build off each other's findings and interpretations.

So, what did Jewish scholars say about the scripture? After all, they were the experts, right?

Maimonides, who lived from (1138–1204) was the most preeminent Rabbinical medieval philosopher in history, had this to say about the verse.

"Daniel has made known to us the knowledge of the end times. However, since they are secret, the wise rabbis have barred the calculation of the days of the Messiah's coming so that the untutored populace will not be led astray when they see that the End Times have already come but there is no sign of the Messiah." (Igeret Teimen, Chapter 3. p.24)

Likewise, the Sanhedrin wrote, "May the curse of heaven fall upon those who calculate the date of the advent of the Messiah, and thus create political and social unrest among the people (Sanhedrin, 97b)

Sounds to me like this verse is a hot potato with Jewish scribes. In fact, a rabbi by the name of Leopold Cohn, who was also a rabbi born in Berezna, Hungary in the mid 1800s was also fascinated with the calendar. It all began as Cohn recited his morning devotions that involved the 12th article of the Jewish creed which declares, "I believe with a perfect faith in the coming of the Messiah and, though he tarries, yet will I wait daily for his coming." So, Cohn got to wondering what was meant by the Messiah having to tarry or wait to come. He was then directed to the teachings of non-other than Maimonides, who was convinced from Daniel 9 that the Messiah should have come, at least by the year 1138, but did not for whatever reason. Naturally, he did not provide us with his calculation. What a shame.

Cohn was told by his superiors that the Messiah delayed his coming because of the sinfulness of Israel. In other words, God changed his mind. However, Cohn did not buy it, as he calculated the calendar for the coming Messiah himself and said it pointed to the time of Jesus. Cohn then ended up giving up his entire career as a rabbi and came to America to start the Jews for Jesus movement.
 
you must have missed the boat and came back to life ... in fact the crucifixion of jesus was the reversal of the heavenly noah event -

turning humanity back again to a course of servitude and denial using their biblical religions jesus and the 1st century events are meant to repudiate - the false commandments of moses and hereditary idolatry, apartheid of abraham et al - judaism.

jesus never claimed to be the jewish messiah much less a jew they were a pawn of the heavens hopping only to bring heaven to earth.

Jesus begs to differ:

Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

And then He fulfilled it.

We know exactly when He declared Himself the Messiah.
You are the type of christian that jews dislike.
Jews dislike all Christians in general. We all read the same book.
 
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70 major Old Testament prophecies fulfilled by Jesus​


Bible passage
Prophecy
Fulfillment
1
Genesis 3:15
When sin first enters the world, God promises a savior -- the Messiah -- to resolve the problem of sin and reconcile people with God
Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18
2
Genesis 3:15
The Messiah would be born of a woman -- he would be a human, as opposed to an angel or other type of being
Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18
3
Genesis 22:18
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham, because of Abraham's great faith
Matthew 1:1, Luke 3:34, Romans 4:13, Galatians 3:7
4
Genesis 26:1-5
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham's son Isaac
Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18, Matthew 1:2
5
Genesis 28:10-14
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham's grandson Jacob (He would be an Israelite)
Matthew 1:2, Luke 3:34
6
Genesis 49:10
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham's great-grandson Judah (He would be a Jew)
Matthew 1:3, Luke 3:33
7
Isaiah 11:1-10
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse, who is a descendant of Judah
Matthew 1:6, Luke 3:32
8
2 Samuel 7:12-16
The Messiah would be a descendant of King David, who is a son of Jesse
Matthew 1:6, Luke 3:31
9
Isaiah 11:1
The Messiah would appear after a great devastation for Jesse's descendants (Babylonian conquest)
Luke 3:1-23. History: The Babylonians destroyed the Kingdom of Judah and forced many Jews into exile and captivity (about 2,600 years ago).
10
Jeremiah 23:3-6
The Messiah would appear after the regathering of exiles
Luke 3:1-23. History: Jews began returning to their homeland after the fall of the Neo-Babylonian Empire (about 2,500 years ago).
11
Daniel 9:24-26
The Messiah would appear after the rebuilding of Jerusalem
Luke 3:1-23. History: Jerusalem was fully rebuilt when Jesus arrived as the Messiah about 2,000 years ago.
12
Genesis 49:10
The Messiah would appear after a succession of rulers from the Tribe of Judah
Matthew 2. History: Herod the Great became the first foreigner to reign from Jerusalem as king over the Jews in Israel. Jesus was born during his reign.
13
Ezekiel 21:26-27
The Messiah would appear after a disruption to the succession of Davidic kings, who were members of the Tribe of Judah
Matthew 2. History: Zedekiah, who lived during the time of Ezekiel, was the last Davidic king until Jesus was born.
14
Micah 5:1-2
The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem
Matthew 2:1-12, Luke 2:1-21
15
Genesis 17:15-21
The predicted miraculous birth of Isaac foreshadows the predicted miraculous birth of Jesus
Matthew 1:18-25, Luke 1:26-38. Both births were the result of miracles and the fulfillment of prophecy.
16
Isaiah 7:13-14
Isaiah foretold the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus
Matthew 1:18-25, Luke 1:26-38
17
Isaiah 7:14
The Messiah would be called Immanuel (God with us)
Matthew 1:23
18
Daniel 9:26
The Messiah would arrive before the (Roman) destruction of Jerusalem
Luke 3:1-23. History: The Romans destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70. Jesus appeared as the Messiah in about AD 30.
19
Malachi 3:1
The Messiah would arrive at a time when there was a Temple in Jerusalem
Matthew 21:12. History: The Temple was destroyed AD 70, about 2,000 years ago, and has never been rebuilt.
20
Isaiah 40:1–9
The Messiah would be preceded by a forerunner
Matthew 3:1-4
21
Malachi 3:1
A messenger would prepare the way for the Lord
Mark 1:1-11
22
Daniel 9:24-27
The Messiah would arrive 483 years after a call to restore and to build Jerusalem
John 1:29-34. History: Artaxerxes began giving permission to restore and rebuild Jerusalem in 457 BC. Jesus began his public ministy in AD 26.
23
Isaiah 61:1-2
The public ministry of Jesus is foreshadowed by Isaiah
Luke 4:14-30
24
Isaiah 9:1-2
The Messiah would have a ministry in Galilee and be a light to Gentiles
Matthew 4:12-17
25
Isaiah 35:4-6
The Messiah would perform miracles
Matthew 4:23-25. Jesus performed miracles on 50 occasions, according to Jesus the Miracle Worker
26
Psalm 78:1–2
The Messiah would teach in parables
Matthew 13:3, 13-15
27
Deuteronomy 18:15-18
The Messiah would be like Moses, who was a prophet, leader, intermediary, deliverer and miracle worker
John 5:45-47, 6:14
28
Isaiah 42:1-9
The Messiah would be humble and meek
Matthew 11:28-30
29
Psalm 2:1-12
The Messiah would have a father-son relationship with God
Matthew 14:33
30
Isaiah 9:6-7
The Messiah would be a son who would be called Mighty God
Matthew 1:23, John 10:30, 20:27-29
31
Zechariah 9:9
He would humbly announce himself publicly as the Messiah by riding a lowly donkey into Jerusalem
Matthew 21:6-9
32
Jeremiah 31:31-34
The Messiah would be associated with a "new covenant" involving forgiveness of sin
Hebrews 8
33
Psalm 41
Psalm 41 foreshadowed the betrayal of Jesus
John 13:18
34
Psalm 22:6
The Messiah would be despised
Luke 23:21-23
35
Psalm 118:22-24
The Messiah would be rejected even though he is the cornerstone of a plan from God
Matthew 21:42-43
36
Isaiah 53:1-3
The Messiah would be despised and rejected
Matthew 27:21-23
37
Daniel 9:24-26
Daniel predicted the timing of when the Messiah would be rejected
Mark 15:1-15
38
Isaiah 53:7
The Messiah would be persecuted
Matthew 27:27-31
39
Isaiah 53:7
The Messiah would be silent before his accusers
Matthew 27:12-14
40
Isaiah 50:6-7
The Messiah would be spat upon and beaten
Matthew 26:67, 27:30
41
Psalm 35:19, 69:4
The Messiah would be hated without reason or cause
John 15:25
42
Isaiah 53:12
The Messiah would be 'numbered with the transgressors'
Luke 22:37, 23:32
43
Isaiah 50:4-10
The Messiah would serve God with perfect obedience
Matthew 26:39, John 8:28
44
Isaiah 50:4-10
The Messiah would willingly submit to the will of God and the abuse of people
Matthew 26:47-56
45
Genesis 22:1-18
The near-sacrifice of Isaac foreshadows the sacrifice of Jesus
John 19:1-37
46
Psalm 22
Psalm 22 foreshadows the crucifixion of Jesus
Matthew 27:32-44, John 19:1-37, 20:27
47
Psalm 22:8
The Messiah would be mocked for his faith in God
Matthew 27:39, 27:43
48
Psalm 22:17-18
The Messiah would be stripped of his clothing
Luke 23:34-35
49
Psalm 22:18
Onlookers would cast lots for his clothing
Matthew 27:35, Luke 23:34, John 19:23
50
Psalm 22:16
The Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced
John 19:37, 20:27
51
Psalm 22:15
The Messiah's suffering would include thirst
John 19:28
52
Psalm 22:1
The Messiah would cry out to God
Matthew 27:46
53
Zechariah 12:10
Zechariah foreshadows the piercing of Jesus
John 19:34-37
54
Isaiah 53:12
The Messiah would intercede for sinners
Matthew 10:32, Luke 23:34, Romans 8:34
55
Isaiah 53:4-9
The Messiah would suffer and die for the sins of others
John 19:1-37, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 4:10
56
Isaiah 53:8-9
The Messiah would be "cut off out of the land of the living" (executed)
John 19:1-37
57
Daniel 9:26
The Messiah would be "cut off" (executed)
John 19:1-37
58
Daniel 9:24
The Messiah's sacrificial death would bring an end to the problem of sin
Galatians 1:3-5
59
Genesis 3:15
The Messiah would defeat evil at his own expense
John 19:1-37, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 4:10
60
Isaiah 53:9
The Messiah would be buried in a rich man's grave
Matthew 27:57-61
61
Psalm 16:8-11
God's holy one (the Messiah) would be resurrected
John 20:1-18; Acts 2:29-32, 13:32-37, 1 Corinthians 15
62
Isaiah 53:10-12
The Messiah would be resurrected and see the results of his atoning death
John 20:1-18, Acts 1:8
63
Psalm 110
The Messiah would be seated at the right hand of God the Father, meaning he would ascend into heaven
Matthew 26:64, Luke 24:50-53, John 20:17, Acts 1:1-12. Jesus ascended 40 days after his resurrection.
64
Isaiah 11:10
The Messiah would appeal to Gentiles
Acts 1:8, 13:47-48. History: Christianity is the world's largest religion.
65
Isaiah 42:1-4
The Messiah would affect people throughout the world
Matthew 28:19-20, John 12:18-21
66
Isaiah 42:6
The Messiah would be a light to people around the world
Luke 2:22-40
67
Zechariah 9:9-11
The Messiah would have a worldwide impact
Acts 1:8, 13:47-48.
68
Isaiah 49:6
The Messiah would bring salvation to the ends of the earth
Acts 13:47-48. History: Christianity is the world's most widespread religion.
69
Psalm 110
The Messiah will return to preside over Judgment Day
Daniel 7:13-14, 12:1-2. To be fulfilled in the future when Jesus returns.
70
Daniel 7:13–14
The Messiah will reign eternally over the Kingdom of God, also known as the Kingdom of Heaven
Luke 1:31-33
 

70 major Old Testament prophecies fulfilled by Jesus​


Bible passage
Prophecy
Fulfillment
1
Genesis 3:15
When sin first enters the world, God promises a savior -- the Messiah -- to resolve the problem of sin and reconcile people with God
Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18
2
Genesis 3:15
The Messiah would be born of a woman -- he would be a human, as opposed to an angel or other type of being
Galatians 4:4-5, Matthew 1:18
3
Genesis 22:18
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham, because of Abraham's great faith
Matthew 1:1, Luke 3:34, Romans 4:13, Galatians 3:7
4
Genesis 26:1-5
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham's son Isaac
Romans 9:7, Hebrews 11:18, Matthew 1:2
5
Genesis 28:10-14
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham's grandson Jacob (He would be an Israelite)
Matthew 1:2, Luke 3:34
6
Genesis 49:10
The Messiah would be a descendant of Abraham's great-grandson Judah (He would be a Jew)
Matthew 1:3, Luke 3:33
7
Isaiah 11:1-10
The Messiah would be a descendant of Jesse, who is a descendant of Judah
Matthew 1:6, Luke 3:32
8
2 Samuel 7:12-16
The Messiah would be a descendant of King David, who is a son of Jesse
Matthew 1:6, Luke 3:31
9
Isaiah 11:1
The Messiah would appear after a great devastation for Jesse's descendants (Babylonian conquest)
Luke 3:1-23. History: The Babylonians destroyed the Kingdom of Judah and forced many Jews into exile and captivity (about 2,600 years ago).
10
Jeremiah 23:3-6
The Messiah would appear after the regathering of exiles
Luke 3:1-23. History: Jews began returning to their homeland after the fall of the Neo-Babylonian Empire (about 2,500 years ago).
11
Daniel 9:24-26
The Messiah would appear after the rebuilding of Jerusalem
Luke 3:1-23. History: Jerusalem was fully rebuilt when Jesus arrived as the Messiah about 2,000 years ago.
12
Genesis 49:10
The Messiah would appear after a succession of rulers from the Tribe of Judah
Matthew 2. History: Herod the Great became the first foreigner to reign from Jerusalem as king over the Jews in Israel. Jesus was born during his reign.
13
Ezekiel 21:26-27
The Messiah would appear after a disruption to the succession of Davidic kings, who were members of the Tribe of Judah
Matthew 2. History: Zedekiah, who lived during the time of Ezekiel, was the last Davidic king until Jesus was born.
14
Micah 5:1-2
The Messiah would be born in Bethlehem
Matthew 2:1-12, Luke 2:1-21
15
Genesis 17:15-21
The predicted miraculous birth of Isaac foreshadows the predicted miraculous birth of Jesus
Matthew 1:18-25, Luke 1:26-38. Both births were the result of miracles and the fulfillment of prophecy.
16
Isaiah 7:13-14
Isaiah foretold the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus
Matthew 1:18-25, Luke 1:26-38
17
Isaiah 7:14
The Messiah would be called Immanuel (God with us)
Matthew 1:23
18
Daniel 9:26
The Messiah would arrive before the (Roman) destruction of Jerusalem
Luke 3:1-23. History: The Romans destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70. Jesus appeared as the Messiah in about AD 30.
19
Malachi 3:1
The Messiah would arrive at a time when there was a Temple in Jerusalem
Matthew 21:12. History: The Temple was destroyed AD 70, about 2,000 years ago, and has never been rebuilt.
20
Isaiah 40:1–9
The Messiah would be preceded by a forerunner
Matthew 3:1-4
21
Malachi 3:1
A messenger would prepare the way for the Lord
Mark 1:1-11
22
Daniel 9:24-27
The Messiah would arrive 483 years after a call to restore and to build Jerusalem
John 1:29-34. History: Artaxerxes began giving permission to restore and rebuild Jerusalem in 457 BC. Jesus began his public ministy in AD 26.
23
Isaiah 61:1-2
The public ministry of Jesus is foreshadowed by Isaiah
Luke 4:14-30
24
Isaiah 9:1-2
The Messiah would have a ministry in Galilee and be a light to Gentiles
Matthew 4:12-17
25
Isaiah 35:4-6
The Messiah would perform miracles
Matthew 4:23-25. Jesus performed miracles on 50 occasions, according to Jesus the Miracle Worker
26
Psalm 78:1–2
The Messiah would teach in parables
Matthew 13:3, 13-15
27
Deuteronomy 18:15-18
The Messiah would be like Moses, who was a prophet, leader, intermediary, deliverer and miracle worker
John 5:45-47, 6:14
28
Isaiah 42:1-9
The Messiah would be humble and meek
Matthew 11:28-30
29
Psalm 2:1-12
The Messiah would have a father-son relationship with God
Matthew 14:33
30
Isaiah 9:6-7
The Messiah would be a son who would be called Mighty God
Matthew 1:23, John 10:30, 20:27-29
31
Zechariah 9:9
He would humbly announce himself publicly as the Messiah by riding a lowly donkey into Jerusalem
Matthew 21:6-9
32
Jeremiah 31:31-34
The Messiah would be associated with a "new covenant" involving forgiveness of sin
Hebrews 8
33
Psalm 41
Psalm 41 foreshadowed the betrayal of Jesus
John 13:18
34
Psalm 22:6
The Messiah would be despised
Luke 23:21-23
35
Psalm 118:22-24
The Messiah would be rejected even though he is the cornerstone of a plan from God
Matthew 21:42-43
36
Isaiah 53:1-3
The Messiah would be despised and rejected
Matthew 27:21-23
37
Daniel 9:24-26
Daniel predicted the timing of when the Messiah would be rejected
Mark 15:1-15
38
Isaiah 53:7
The Messiah would be persecuted
Matthew 27:27-31
39
Isaiah 53:7
The Messiah would be silent before his accusers
Matthew 27:12-14
40
Isaiah 50:6-7
The Messiah would be spat upon and beaten
Matthew 26:67, 27:30
41
Psalm 35:19, 69:4
The Messiah would be hated without reason or cause
John 15:25
42
Isaiah 53:12
The Messiah would be 'numbered with the transgressors'
Luke 22:37, 23:32
43
Isaiah 50:4-10
The Messiah would serve God with perfect obedience
Matthew 26:39, John 8:28
44
Isaiah 50:4-10
The Messiah would willingly submit to the will of God and the abuse of people
Matthew 26:47-56
45
Genesis 22:1-18
The near-sacrifice of Isaac foreshadows the sacrifice of Jesus
John 19:1-37
46
Psalm 22
Psalm 22 foreshadows the crucifixion of Jesus
Matthew 27:32-44, John 19:1-37, 20:27
47
Psalm 22:8
The Messiah would be mocked for his faith in God
Matthew 27:39, 27:43
48
Psalm 22:17-18
The Messiah would be stripped of his clothing
Luke 23:34-35
49
Psalm 22:18
Onlookers would cast lots for his clothing
Matthew 27:35, Luke 23:34, John 19:23
50
Psalm 22:16
The Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced
John 19:37, 20:27
51
Psalm 22:15
The Messiah's suffering would include thirst
John 19:28
52
Psalm 22:1
The Messiah would cry out to God
Matthew 27:46
53
Zechariah 12:10
Zechariah foreshadows the piercing of Jesus
John 19:34-37
54
Isaiah 53:12
The Messiah would intercede for sinners
Matthew 10:32, Luke 23:34, Romans 8:34
55
Isaiah 53:4-9
The Messiah would suffer and die for the sins of others
John 19:1-37, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 4:10
56
Isaiah 53:8-9
The Messiah would be "cut off out of the land of the living" (executed)
John 19:1-37
57
Daniel 9:26
The Messiah would be "cut off" (executed)
John 19:1-37
58
Daniel 9:24
The Messiah's sacrificial death would bring an end to the problem of sin
Galatians 1:3-5
59
Genesis 3:15
The Messiah would defeat evil at his own expense
John 19:1-37, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 4:10
60
Isaiah 53:9
The Messiah would be buried in a rich man's grave
Matthew 27:57-61
61
Psalm 16:8-11
God's holy one (the Messiah) would be resurrected
John 20:1-18; Acts 2:29-32, 13:32-37, 1 Corinthians 15
62
Isaiah 53:10-12
The Messiah would be resurrected and see the results of his atoning death
John 20:1-18, Acts 1:8
63
Psalm 110
The Messiah would be seated at the right hand of God the Father, meaning he would ascend into heaven
Matthew 26:64, Luke 24:50-53, John 20:17, Acts 1:1-12. Jesus ascended 40 days after his resurrection.
64
Isaiah 11:10
The Messiah would appeal to Gentiles
Acts 1:8, 13:47-48. History: Christianity is the world's largest religion.
65
Isaiah 42:1-4
The Messiah would affect people throughout the world
Matthew 28:19-20, John 12:18-21
66
Isaiah 42:6
The Messiah would be a light to people around the world
Luke 2:22-40
67
Zechariah 9:9-11
The Messiah would have a worldwide impact
Acts 1:8, 13:47-48.
68
Isaiah 49:6
The Messiah would bring salvation to the ends of the earth
Acts 13:47-48. History: Christianity is the world's most widespread religion.
69
Psalm 110
The Messiah will return to preside over Judgment Day
Daniel 7:13-14, 12:1-2. To be fulfilled in the future when Jesus returns.
70
Daniel 7:13–14
The Messiah will reign eternally over the Kingdom of God, also known as the Kingdom of Heaven
Luke 1:31-33
ALL are without excuse
 
Have you ever asked a Jew why Jews do not believe in Jesus? (has to be NOT IN PUBLIC, but in private so they don't get put on TikTok saying it)

A tribute to the "surrender of the mind" that "Pro Israel Christians" never demonstrate the IQ>5 necessary to

ACTUALLY FUCKING ASK THAT RIDICULOUSLY OBVIOUS QUESTION


Intelligence is the state of having conflicting data and figuring out WHAT QUESTIONS TO START ASKING....
I have asked that question on this forum and never gotten a serious reply (e.g., "we don't think about him"). Historically, he was real person who was born a Jew and who preached to Jewish people. He may not have conformed to the Jewish conception of a messiah, but was he also not a Jewish teacher, rabbi or prophet?

Is the claim that he was the Son of Man/God enough to oppose all of his teachings and/or deny his existence? What "conflicting data" do you have, and WHAT QUESTIONS ARE YOU ASKING?
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