Zone1 Why does US christianity differ from christianity in Europe ?

[kjw47]

That makes no sense at all. The Father created all things through Jesus. So, Jesus actually did the creating. Father drew up the plans and Jesus built the universe. Pretty simple.

God is the only one with power to create. Gods master worker( Jesus) gives God all credit at Prov 8.

 

[Cougarbear]

God is the only one with power to create. Gods master worker( Jesus) gives God all credit at Prov 8.

Yes, the Father's Priesthood is the authority and power he holds. However, he shares this priesthood with Jesus Christ so that he was able to organize the universe and be our Lord and Savior. In ancient Israel, the Father and Son shared the Priesthood power with Moses and the brethren at his time. This priesthood was conferred upon the sons of Aaron until the coming of Jesus Christ. Then, as Paul writes, the higher priesthood after the Order of Melchizedek was conferred upon the brethren after Jesus Christ established the New and Everlasting Covenant. The Priesthood is for mankind to learn to use the power and authority of Father in Heaven with respect to covenant making through ordinances from Adam on down to Jesus Christ to Paul and now restored in the Last Days to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

[theHawk]

It seems a lot more political and a lot more foccused on wedge issues. The UK churches rarely speak on social/political issues and only when the extremely immoral policies provoke this.

I think this doc is interesting but the presenter fails to state the obvious. The exxtreme churches can preach whatever they want. But should they still recieve tax breaks ?

Because Democrats are now pure evil. So politics has become religious.

The Father of Lies is Satan. The Party of Lies is the Democratic Party.

 

[zaangalewa]

God always was and always will be. Jesus was created first

No - not really. In a wider view everything here in our world is created - also the future - but the future is nevertheless created to be free. There was a time when Jesus was future so no one was able to remember him.

And you are by the way also on your own created "first". Today you exist - and yesterday you existed - and also the day before yesterday you existed - and so on and so on. When you was 5 years old someone killed you ... no - that's wrong now. We know that no one killed you when you was five years old because you exist now. But it was not sure when you had been five years old that you will survive the next day. But you survived. And you lived the year before (4 years old) and the year before this year (3 years old) and 10 years before you also lived when you was -7 years old. You lived when you was -7 years old? This is wrong, isn't it? For sure "to live" is now the wrong word, because you was not born so you did not live - but something what was you existed when you was -7 years old. Your parents are part of this existence for example. If your mother had died on your -7th birthday then you would not exist now. And now you can go back to the very first moment when existence started to exist - always existed something what was able to take care that you never will be born. But this never had happened.

and last direct-all other things created THROUGH him by God(Coll 1:15-16

"Coll"? What is "Coll"? ... And where from comes this stupid bad habit to say nothing with numbers? ... Is it possible that "Coll" is the letter from Paulus to the Colossians. But why two "L"s? ... Yea , I guess it is because that is it really now. A ... damn! ... now I have a language problem.

English Text:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

German Text (Luther 2017):
Er ist das Ebenbild des unsichtbaren Gottes, der Erstgeborene vor aller Schöpfung.
= He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn before all creation.

This sentence is a paradox. Before god made everyhting out of nothing nothing existed. So [the German ] Jesus is part of this godly paradox. And this makes him really special. When nothing existed also god not existed but he created out of this nothing everything.

Hmmm ...

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He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn before all creation.
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[zaangalewa]

... The Father of Lies is Satan. ...

The father of Donald is Satan? No wonder that Satan seems to be always so damn angry because of all this defamations.

 

[JustAGuy1]

In that case the prosperity gospel is null and void.

It's nothing more than a lie made up by greedy preachers.

 

[kjw47]

Yes, the Father's Priesthood is the authority and power he holds. However, he shares this priesthood with Jesus Christ so that he was able to organize the universe and be our Lord and Savior. In ancient Israel, the Father and Son shared the Priesthood power with Moses and the brethren at his time. This priesthood was conferred upon the sons of Aaron until the coming of Jesus Christ. Then, as Paul writes, the higher priesthood after the Order of Melchizedek was conferred upon the brethren after Jesus Christ established the New and Everlasting Covenant. The Priesthood is for mankind to learn to use the power and authority of Father in Heaven with respect to covenant making through ordinances from Adam on down to Jesus Christ to Paul and now restored in the Last Days to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

No trinity religion has Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

No - not really. In a wider view everything here in our world is created - also the future - but the future is nevertheless created to be free. There was a time when Jesus was future so no one was able to remember him.

And you are by the way also on your own created "first". Today you exist - and yesterday you existed - and also the day before yesterday you existed - and so on and so on. When you was 5 years old someone killed you ... no - that's wrong now. We know that no one killed you when you was five years old because you exist now. But it was not sure when you had been five years old that you will survive the next day. But you survived. And you lived the year before (4 years old) and the year before this year (3 years old) and 10 years before you also lived when you was -7 years old. You lived when you was -7 years old? This is wrong, isn't it? For sure "to live" is now the wrong word, because you was not born so you did not live - but something what was you existed when you was -7 years old. Your parents are part of this existence for example. If your mother had died on your -7th birthday then you would not exist now. And now you can go back to the very first moment when existence started to exist - always existed something what was able to take care that you never will be born. But this never had happened.



"Coll"? What is "Coll"? ... And where from comes this stupid bad habit to say nothing with numbers? ... Is it possible that "Coll" is the letter from Paulus to the Colossians. But why two "L"s? ... Yea , I guess it is because that is it really now. A ... damn! ... now I have a language problem.

English Text:
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

German Text (Luther 2017):
Er ist das Ebenbild des unsichtbaren Gottes, der Erstgeborene vor aller Schöpfung.
= He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn before all creation.

This sentence is a paradox. Before god made everyhting out of nothing nothing existed. So [the German ] Jesus is part of this godly paradox. And this makes him really special. When nothing existed also god not existed but he created out of this nothing everything.

Hmmm ...

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He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn before all creation.
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Collosians

 

[Cougarbear]

No trinity religion has Jesus.

Our name is”The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” So you are wrong. Your Church is false with false prophets. 1918

 

[kjw47]

Our name is”The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” So you are wrong. Your Church is false with false prophets. 1918

I showed you what Joseph Smith taught in error. The JW,s made errors, The JW,s corrected their errors. There hasn't been a prophecy since the book of Revelation was written.

 

[Cougarbear]

I showed you what Joseph Smith taught in error. The JW,s made errors, The JW,s corrected their errors. There hasn't been a prophecy since the book of Revelation was written.

You showed nothing but false nonsense by those who prophesied the end of the earth in 1918.

 

[Arlette]

It seems a lot more political and a lot more foccused on wedge issues. The UK churches rarely speak on social/political issues and only when the extremely immoral policies provoke this.

I think this doc is interesting but the presenter fails to state the obvious. The exxtreme churches can preach whatever they want. But should they still recieve tax breaks ?

The difference is that most European Christians know it's bullshit. They like to go somewhere on Sundays, nicely dressed as a family and mingle with people they know. Here in the US our Christians think that all of creation happened with their dumb ass in mind.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It seems a lot more political and a lot more foccused on wedge issues. The UK churches rarely speak on social/political issues and only when the extremely immoral policies provoke this.

I think this doc is interesting but the presenter fails to state the obvious. The exxtreme churches can preach whatever they want. But should they still recieve tax breaks ?

I think some churches in the US are simply scam jobs for charismatic people to drain the money from people.

The politics in US churches probably just represents the politics in the US, insane.

 

[Cougarbear]

You know that your conclusion made no sense. Care to try again? See if it’s possible to make sense

 

[zaangalewa]

Collosians

Colossians

Old Greek: Κολοσσαί (Colossai)
Latinized: Colossae

info: Colossae - Wikipedia

 

[kjw47]

You showed nothing but false nonsense by those who prophesied the end of the earth in 1918.

J. Smith prophesied Jesus was coming in 1835--He didn't come. He prophesied a temple would be built in Independence Missouri in 1832-200 years later no temple had been built yet. He as well taught the moon was inhabited by men and women who lived to be 1000 years old= an insane quack. Its your eternal life on the line.

 

[kjw47]

Colossians

Old Greek: Κολοσσαί (Colossai)
Latinized: Colossae

info: Colossae - Wikipedia

I misspelled it--English was never my favorite subject.

 

[Cougarbear]

J. Smith prophesied Jesus was coming in 1835--He didn't come. He prophesied a temple would be built in Independence Missouri in 1832-200 years later no temple had been built yet. He as well taught the moon was inhabited by men and women who lived to be 1000 years old= an insane quack. Its your eternal life on the line.

No he did not. Stop lying. None of this is factually true. Why do JW's have to rely on lying?

 

[kjw47]

No he did not. Stop lying. None of this is factually true. Why do JW's have to rely on lying?

History says its truth.

 

[surada]

Because Democrats are now pure evil. So politics has become religious.

The Father of Lies is Satan. The Party of Lies is the Democratic Party.

Holy cow. Have you forgotten Trump's incredible lies?