Why does this guy still have a license to practice law?

[Correll]

The swamp creatures must be allowed to frame innocent people without hinder.

You’re next.

Government Agent Whose Altered Email Enabled the Russia Hoax Won't Spend a Day in Jail or Pay Any Fine

The Russia hoax undermined a duly elected president and continues to divide the nation. But one of t

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Play nice with the DoJ and you don’t get punished as severely.

Dude plead guilty to a single count. No jail time.

Same would have been true for Flynn had he been sentenced before he went off the deep end and hired Powell.

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

 

[JoeB131]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

Or he was just a bureaucrat who took a shortcut in evaluating a complex document, which had no real effect on how that document was acted on.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

The swamp creatures must be allowed to frame innocent people without hinder.

You’re next.

he changed three words in an email because he didn't want to be hassled to get another document from the CIA.

There was no vast conspiracy here... Carter Page was suspected because he did a lot of suspicious stuff.

That's laughable, Joey! He's a lawyer. He changed 3 words in an email because he knew that doing so totally changed the meaning of the document and hid the fact that Carter Page had been working with the government! Carter Page was "suspected" because of what that lawyer deliberately did!

If they think the lowest level punk is getting his wrist slapped and that is the end of it. I say...BAWWWWHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[harmonica]

..what a big bunch of crap that was...of course the MSM won't admit they were huge jackasses --because they were the ones putting out all the crap
...the MSM needs to be taken out

Are you making a threat?

..HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHA
protecting America is a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????
just like cops defending themselves is murder--hahahahhahahahahhaha
you people are ridiculous

You said the MSM should be "taken out".. Do you just talk trash?

.....yes--taken out...just like we take out terrorists that attack America---you look foolish again
hahahahhahahaha

 

[colfax_m]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

How did he undermine the democratic process?

 

[Correll]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

How did he undermine the democratic process?

He ginned up a lie to support a false investigation of a newly elected President because he did not want that President in office.


And it did lead to an attempt by the supposed to be loyal opposition party, to remove the duly elected President, on false charges.


If you cannot see how that undermines the democratic process, it is because you are willfully blind.

 

[JoeB131]

If they think the lowest level punk is getting his wrist slapped and that is the end of it. I say...BAWWWWHAHAHAHA!!!

This is the end of it. After all the huffing and puffing, they do what they always do in scandals... they find the lowest level guy and hang it on him.

 

[JoeB131]

He ginned up a lie to support a false investigation of a newly elected President because he did not want that President in office.

Except that Horowitz and Durham both said they couldn't find any political motive for his ommission... only that he had taken a shortcut he shouldn't have.

 

[colfax_m]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

How did he undermine the democratic process?

He ginned up a lie to support a false investigation of a newly elected President because he did not want that President in office.


And it did lead to an attempt by the supposed to be loyal opposition party, to remove the duly elected President, on false charges.


If you cannot see how that undermines the democratic process, it is because you are willfully blind.

If it didn’t occur before the election, it could not have an effect on the democratic process.

 

[Correll]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

How did he undermine the democratic process?

He ginned up a lie to support a false investigation of a newly elected President because he did not want that President in office.


And it did lead to an attempt by the supposed to be loyal opposition party, to remove the duly elected President, on false charges.


If you cannot see how that undermines the democratic process, it is because you are willfully blind.

If it didn’t occur before the election, it could not have an effect on the democratic process.

That is utter nonsense.


It was an attempt to undo the election AND to the extent that it prevented or reduced our turn at power, by undermining the elected President, it was at least a partial success.

 

[colfax_m]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

How did he undermine the democratic process?

He ginned up a lie to support a false investigation of a newly elected President because he did not want that President in office.


And it did lead to an attempt by the supposed to be loyal opposition party, to remove the duly elected President, on false charges.


If you cannot see how that undermines the democratic process, it is because you are willfully blind.

If it didn’t occur before the election, it could not have an effect on the democratic process.

That is utter nonsense.


It was an attempt to undo the election AND to the extent that it prevented or reduced our turn at power, by undermining the elected President, it was at least a partial success.

He can’t undo the election. He can’t reduce his power. Not in his ability.

Nothing to do with the election so nothing to do with the electoral process.

Now, if they had revealed everything before the election, you’d have a point. But they didn’t. They had opportunity to affect the democratic process and chose not to.

 

[surada]

..what a big bunch of crap that was...of course the MSM won't admit they were huge jackasses --because they were the ones putting out all the crap
...the MSM needs to be taken out

Are you making a threat?

..HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHA
protecting America is a threat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????
just like cops defending themselves is murder--hahahahhahahahahhaha
you people are ridiculous

You said the MSM should be "taken out".. Do you just talk trash?

.....yes--taken out...just like we take out terrorists that attack America---you look foolish again
hahahahhahahaha

So you do want to kill the MSM???

 

[Correll]

He used his position as a federal agent, to undermine the democratic process.

How did he undermine the democratic process?

He ginned up a lie to support a false investigation of a newly elected President because he did not want that President in office.


And it did lead to an attempt by the supposed to be loyal opposition party, to remove the duly elected President, on false charges.


If you cannot see how that undermines the democratic process, it is because you are willfully blind.

If it didn’t occur before the election, it could not have an effect on the democratic process.

That is utter nonsense.


It was an attempt to undo the election AND to the extent that it prevented or reduced our turn at power, by undermining the elected President, it was at least a partial success.

He can’t undo the election. He can’t reduce his power. Not in his ability.

Nothing to do with the election so nothing to do with the electoral process.

Now, if they had revealed everything before the election, you’d have a point. But they didn’t. They had opportunity to affect the democratic process and chose not to.

The intent of the investigation was to remove or at least seriously undermine the duly elected President.


How many times have you heard some asshole lib, refer to Trump as the Impeached Trump?

IF failed to remove him but to teh extent that it undermined him and took up his limited time,


it prevented or at least seriously reduced the effectiveness of our turn at the wheel.


That is the undermining of the Democratic Process.

 

[colfax_m]

The intent of the investigation was to remove or at least seriously undermine the duly elected President.

Baloney. If the intent was to get Trump, they would have prevented him from winning the election in the first place, which is a far easier task.

The DoJ and FBI can’t remove a president. Can’t happen. Not their authority.

He wasn’t impeached for anything that had to do with Klinesmith. He was impeached for doing to Joe Biden what you’re claiming the FBI did to him.

 

[Correll]

The intent of the investigation was to remove or at least seriously undermine the duly elected President.

Baloney. If the intent was to get Trump, they would have prevented him from winning the election in the first place, which is a far easier task.

The DoJ and FBI can’t remove a president. Can’t happen. Not their authority.

He wasn’t impeached for anything that had to do with Klinesmith. He was impeached for doing to Joe Biden what you’re claiming the FBI did to him.

They didn't think that they had to stop Trump before the election. THey thought he would lose.


After the upset, they mobilized and implemented a plan to undo the election they did not like.

Your denial of their intent and actions, is delusional at best, or just a lie at worst.

 

[colfax_m]

The intent of the investigation was to remove or at least seriously undermine the duly elected President.

Baloney. If the intent was to get Trump, they would have prevented him from winning the election in the first place, which is a far easier task.

The DoJ and FBI can’t remove a president. Can’t happen. Not their authority.

He wasn’t impeached for anything that had to do with Klinesmith. He was impeached for doing to Joe Biden what you’re claiming the FBI did to him.

They didn't think that they had to stop Trump before the election. THey thought he would lose.


After the upset, they mobilized and implemented a plan to undo the election they did not like.

Your denial of their intent and actions, is delusional at best, or just a lie at worst.

If the thought he would lose, why have the investigation at all then?

Jesus, this stupid theory makes no sense.

They had an investigation which could have stopped his election and sat on it until he took office at which point in time it had no hope of getting him out of office.

Dumb.

 

[22lcidw]

..what a big bunch of crap that was...of course the MSM won't admit they were huge jackasses --because they were the ones putting out all the crap
...the MSM needs to be taken out

Are you making a threat?

Fraulein Nicolle Wallace already did. One of many Progs.

 

[Correll]

The intent of the investigation was to remove or at least seriously undermine the duly elected President.

Baloney. If the intent was to get Trump, they would have prevented him from winning the election in the first place, which is a far easier task.

The DoJ and FBI can’t remove a president. Can’t happen. Not their authority.

He wasn’t impeached for anything that had to do with Klinesmith. He was impeached for doing to Joe Biden what you’re claiming the FBI did to him.

They didn't think that they had to stop Trump before the election. THey thought he would lose.


After the upset, they mobilized and implemented a plan to undo the election they did not like.

Your denial of their intent and actions, is delusional at best, or just a lie at worst.

If the thought he would lose, why have the investigation at all then?

Jesus, this stupid theory makes no sense.

They had an investigation which could have stopped his election and sat on it until he took office at which point in time it had no hope of getting him out of office.

Dumb.

A good question. We could speculate.

But the actions and stated intentions of various Federal Agents, make it clear that this was a push back against an election outcome they were not prepared to acccept.


That it took place at all, is a defeat for democracy. That is was at least partially successful, is another defeat for democracy.


That those responsible have generally NOT been held accountable for their actions, is a very serious defeat for democracy.


That you are siding with them, is another defeat. That the press in on their side, is another defeat. That big media is their side is another defeat. That big tech in on their side, is another defeat.


Democracy, looks to be going down.

 

[colfax_m]

The intent of the investigation was to remove or at least seriously undermine the duly elected President.

Baloney. If the intent was to get Trump, they would have prevented him from winning the election in the first place, which is a far easier task.

The DoJ and FBI can’t remove a president. Can’t happen. Not their authority.

He wasn’t impeached for anything that had to do with Klinesmith. He was impeached for doing to Joe Biden what you’re claiming the FBI did to him.

They didn't think that they had to stop Trump before the election. THey thought he would lose.


After the upset, they mobilized and implemented a plan to undo the election they did not like.

Your denial of their intent and actions, is delusional at best, or just a lie at worst.

If the thought he would lose, why have the investigation at all then?

Jesus, this stupid theory makes no sense.

They had an investigation which could have stopped his election and sat on it until he took office at which point in time it had no hope of getting him out of office.

Dumb.

A good question. We could speculate.

But the actions and stated intentions of various Federal Agents, make it clear that this was a push back against an election outcome they were not prepared to acccept.


That it took place at all, is a defeat for democracy. That is was at least partially successful, is another defeat for democracy.


That those responsible have generally NOT been held accountable for their actions, is a very serious defeat for democracy.


That you are siding with them, is another defeat. That the press in on their side, is another defeat. That big media is their side is another defeat. That big tech in on their side, is another defeat.


Democracy, looks to be going down.

No. The actions of the team demonstrate they were pursuing an investigation that had adequate probable cause.

They took actions to be sure it was not disclosed to the public so as not to interfere in the election.

 

[task0778]

As the U.S. government seeks prison time for a former FBI lawyer who admitted falsifying evidence to spy on a former Trump aide, the District of Columbia Bar association hasn’t begun an investigation to strip him of his law license, records show.


Ex-FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith is still listed as an “active” attorney in “good standing” with the D.C. Bar despite forging a document to win approval to spy on Page. The defendant, Kevin Eugene Clinesmith, is still listed as an “active” attorney in “good standing” with the Democrat-controlled D.C. Bar, despite his having pleaded guilty more than five months ago to illegally altering a document used for authorization to electronically eavesdrop on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page as part of the FBI’s Russiagate probe.

A search of the D.C. Bar’s Office of Disciplinary Counsel database of "disciplinary proceedings" turns up no such proceedings against Clinesmith, even though his guilty plea was reported to the bar and the bar's board has received at least one formal complaint demanding his disbarment.

“The only appropriate sanction for committing a serious felony that also interfered with the proper administration of justice and constituted misrepresentation, fraud and moral turpitude is disbarment,” the National Legal and Policy Center said in a complaint it filed with the bar on Sept. 10. “Anything less would minimize the seriousness of the misconduct.”

The 38-year-old Clinesmith, a registered Democrat who sent anti-Trump rants to FBI colleagues after the Republican was elected in 2016, awaits sentencing on Friday.

In arguing for leniency, lawyers for Clinesmith have told the court that their client “self-reported his conduct and his guilty plea to the authorities where he is licensed as an attorney. And he has voluntarily offered to stop practicing law until those disciplinary authorities complete their review of Kevin’s conduct.”

But Paul Kamenar, the National Legal and Policy Center counsel who drafted the ethics watchdog’s complaint, said Clinesmith appears to have violated a bar rule requiring him to report his crime within 10 days of his guilty plea in August.

Clinesmith was admitted to the D.C. bar in 2008 and the Michigan bar a year earlier, after he graduated from Michigan State University Law School.

Unlike the D.C. Bar, the State Bar of Michigan automatically suspended Clinesmith from practicing law in the state on Aug. 19, the day the court accepted his guilty plea.

However, a notice of the action was not posted on the State of Michigan Attorney Discipline Board website until Jan. 14. And the document does not come up under his name in the directory of all Michigan attorneys who have been the subject of disciplinary proceedings.

“That’s very strange,” a State Bar of Michigan spokeswoman said.

Still, "he is under disciplinary suspension,” she confirmed. "He is not in good standing.”
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The D.C. Bar, with more than 100,000 members from across the country, did not respond to questions regarding why it hasn't started a disciplinary review. But a longstanding member of the bar suspects board members are “dragging their feet because of politics.”

“The District of Columbia is a very liberal bar,” he said. “Basically, the leaders of the bar are liberal Democrats and may want to go light on the guy because he’s also a Democrat who hated Trump.”

Last month, 25 former D.C. Bar presidents published a letter in the Washington Post attacking then-President Trump for filing “groundless” lawsuits in battleground states where poll workers had complained in sworn affidavits about witnessing voter fraud and ballot tampering in favor of Joe Biden. The bar officials, who included former Clinton ally Jamie Gorelick and close Biden confidant Mark Tuohey, claimed Trump “abuse[d] the judicial system to subvert the democratic process."

DC Fails To Disbar Anti-Trump FBI Lawyer Despite Guilty Plea | RealClearInvestigations

As the U.S. government seeks prison time for a former FBI lawyer who admitted falsifying evidence to spy on a former Trump aide, the District of Columbia Bar association hasnt begun an...

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This guy pleaded guilty to a felony, and is automatically subject to being disciplined by the DC bar. 5 months, nothing happened. WTF? Anybody want to claim it wouldn't have been different if Clinesmith was a repub who altered a legal document for Trump? The guy would've been in prison by now.

Gee, he self-reported his felony and voluntarily stopped practicing law, what a guy. Probably right after he found out the DOJ was going to fry his ass anyway. The plain and simple truth is that if this kind of bullshit goes unpunished then we can expect future incidents of misconduct. If there no consequences and no penalty imposed, then there is no deterrence for future illegal acts.

Never any consequences!!!

The former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to altering an email to help obtain Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act wiretap authorization against former Trump campaign associate Carter Page was sentenced to one year of probation and no prison time on Friday.

Judge James Boasberg of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia denied the Justice Department's efforts seeking up to six months behind bars, instead giving Kevin Clinesmith probation, 400 hours of community service within a year, and a special assessment of $100 to the court but no fine.

Ex-FBI lawyer gets probation for Carter Page FISA email deception in Durham investigation

The former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to altering an email to help obtain Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act wiretap authorization against former Trump campaign associate Carter Page was sentenced to one year of probation and no prison time on Friday.

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Welp, there you go. No real consequences. Wasn't disbarred, nothing but community service, BFD. So, who here doesn't believe that now that the democrats are back in charge, our justice system will once again be used as a political weapon? Never mind the truth, they're going to go after any Repub they can even if they have to make something up. Especially if he/she is running for president in 2024.