Why does the state celebrate Christmas?

In an era of separation of church and state, why on earth are those in Washington celebrating a holiday with the term "Christ" in it?

In fact, why do we get the day off as well?

Who IS "the state", Gertrude?

The state is what SCOTUS says it is. It is a government, by and for what SCOTUS interprets it to be. They are the source of all knowledge and truth in the universe and the decision starts and ends with them.
 
In an era of separation of church and state, why on earth are those in Washington celebrating a holiday with the term "Christ" in it?

In fact, why do we get the day off as well?

Politics. Pandering. Overestimating the political pull of Jesus freaks.

Need more?

Seriously. You want to fuck with Christians and Muslims over JC?

Are you really that screwed up?

Sure. Those on the left who hate God and religion should be stripped of its benefits.

Let them eat of the fruits of a Godless state who hate it so much they would rather completely divorce their cultural traditions than be tolerant of them.
 
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Politics. Pandering. Overestimating the political pull of Jesus freaks.

Need more?
Jesus freaks, Gracie? Really? WHY do they bother you so?

Why do you think? Play the devils advocate for a few minutes. Try hard to be honest and thoughtful. Why would someone like me.....raised in a traditional Catholic family....be disillusioned with organized religion as it has presented itself in America over the past 40 years?

Shock me.
Apparently YOU have learned ZERO.:eusa_hand:
 
You get the the day off because your employer gives it to you. It doesn't have squat to do with the government.
 
In an era of separation of church and state, why on earth are those in Washington celebrating a holiday with the term "Christ" in it?

In fact, why do we get the day off as well?

Who IS "the state", Gertrude?

The state is what SCOTUS says it is. It is a government, by and for what SCOTUS interprets it to be. They are the source of all knowledge and truth in the universe and the decision starts and ends with them.

The state is the citizens, you moron...the vast majority who are Christians..so take your point and shove it
 
You get the the day off because your employer gives it to you. It doesn't have squat to do with the government.

It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!
 
You get the the day off because your employer gives it to you. It doesn't have squat to do with the government.

It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!

We have no religious involvement in our Christmas.
 
Yes, but they even allowed prayer in schools back then, a clear violation of church and state.

Come to think of it, why do we have weekends? Doesn't the weekend have its roots in Mosaic law concerning the Sabbath? This is akin to putting the Ten Commandments in the court room, another clear violation of church and state.

I say the only answer is to work 24/7, like it was before the Mosaic law came to be.



I kinda like the tongue-in-cheek, but do you realize that the antithesis to our Revolution, the one called the French Revolution...was based on the insanity you suggest?



From the novel “Napoleon’ Pyramids,” by William Dietrich

April 13, 1798, was a Friday. But it was springtime in revolutionary Paris, meaning that under the Directory’s new calendar it was the twenty-forth day of the month of Germinal in the Year Six, and the next day of rest was still six days distant, not two.
Has any reform been more futile?

The Government’s arrogant discard of Christianity means that weeks have been extended to ten days instead of seven. The revision’s intent is to supplant the papal calendar with a uniform alternative of twelve months of thirty days each, based on the system of ancient Egypt.

Bibles themselves were torn up to make paper gun cartridges in the grim days of 1793, and now the biblical week has been guillotined, each month instead divided into three decades of ten days, with the year, with the year beginning at the autumn equinox and five to six holidays added to balance idealism with our solar orbit.

Not content with regimenting the calendar, the government has introduced a new metric system for weight and measure. There are even proposals for a new clock of precisely 100,000 seconds each day. Reason, reason!...The new calendar is the kind of logical idea imposed by clever people that completely ignores habit, emotion, and human nature and thus forecasts the Revolution’s doom.


Your colonial revolution was one of political independence. This one in France is about the very order of life. My God, a king guillotined! Thousands sent to slaughter! Wars unleashed on every French border! Atheism enshrined! Church lands seized, debts ignored, estates confiscated, rabbles armed, riots, anarchy, and tyranny!
indeed...the very same French that came to the defense of Liberty in America, Embraced Socialism at this point in history.

Well done.


Because they threw out religion for 'reason.'

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and yours.
 
It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!

What if the purpose is not religious?
 
You get the the day off because your employer gives it to you. It doesn't have squat to do with the government.

It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!

We have no religious involvement in our Christmas.

That doesn't change what I said. It is Federal recognition of a pagan religious holiday. Is that fact that it's pagan make it okay...kind of "neutral ground" for the ChristmaHanaKwanzika crowd?
 
It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!

We have no religious involvement in our Christmas.

That doesn't change what I said. It is Federal recognition of a pagan religious holiday. Is that fact that it's pagan make it okay...kind of "neutral ground" for the ChristmaHanaKwanzika crowd?

Who cares what you said.

Christmas is entirely un-religious for millions who celebrate it.

Stop being a dick for and at Christmas for fucks sake.

Go douse yourself in fetus blood and howl at the moon...do your thing.
 
We have no religious involvement in our Christmas.



That doesn't change what I said. It is Federal recognition of a pagan religious holiday. Is that fact that it's pagan make it okay...kind of "neutral ground" for the ChristmaHanaKwanzika crowd?



Who cares what you said.



Christmas is entirely un-religious for millions who celebrate it.



Stop being a dick for and at Christmas for fucks sake.



Go douse yourself in fetus blood and howl at the moon...do your thing.


Yes, keep ignoring the point and go off on some more tangents. What about my point angers you so? If you're saying Christmas isnt a religious holiday, why do y'all get so upset if some capitalist store wants to be all inclusive and say "happy holidays"?
 
Says the one that believes that unicorns poop rainbows.
:confused: Do you really want to compare screwed-up belief systems here?

thanks for being so self-critical. leftism IS a screwed up belief system. beyond the sanity.

Not at all. Tyranny is simply our nature. Just look at the historical examples of it. The majority of human beings in history have been slaves.
 
You get the the day off because your employer gives it to you. It doesn't have squat to do with the government.

It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!

We have no religious involvement in our Christmas.

But you are willing to let the state celebrate a holiday with the term "Christ" in it?

How does this gel with a government that does not even allow nativity scenes to be displayed on state grounds or the Ten Commandments displayed in our court rooms? Is it then not the next logical step of the fundamentalist secular state?
 
:confused: Do you really want to compare screwed-up belief systems here?

thanks for being so self-critical. leftism IS a screwed up belief system. beyond the sanity.

Not at all. Tyranny is simply our nature. Just look at the historical examples of it. The majority of human beings in history have been slaves.
WE are slaves even now as are unborn generations to come due to politicians and their short sightedness regarding debt of this nation.
 
You get the the day off because your employer gives it to you. It doesn't have squat to do with the government.

It is a Federal holiday, as in the government recognizes it as a holiday and no mail gets delivered...the only religious one. Why should this holiday get Federal holiday status when no other religious holidays get such a status? Isn't that putting one religion above all others in a government sense? It's not ambiguous like having "in god we trust" on our money...that could be any and all gods...this is Federal recognition of Pagan traditions!

Don't argue semantics with me. Vox said everyone gets the day off. I called bullshit. End of point.
 
Show me one atheist who says: "I don't believe in God hence in Christmas therefore I will continue to work during the so-called Christmas Holidays". Ya right.

The thing I miss the most about my old job is working Christmas. I ASKED to work Christmas, three years in a row.
 
In fact, why do we get the day off as well?

If your employer is giving you the day off, it's probably because they don't believe the cost of operating for the day is worth the potential for profit.

...or because it's a state law that they (or the businesses they service) CANNOT open that day. (That's my situation.)

Than the beef is with the state government, not the federal government. Though, that's an odd law, TBH. Are you involved in retail liquor? That's the only thing I can think of where a state would prohibit the business from being open.
 

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