Why does the House have no say on the budget?

[kaz]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

 

[Pennywise]

It's just more white noise going out to the horrendously ignorant populace, many of whom will buy the swill like so much meth.

It's also further attempts to dismantle the separation of powers so the Chimp in the White House can continue to develop his fiefdom.

 

[bendog]

I think it's been answered ad nausem, and by conservatives at the Wall St. J., Kasich, Scarborough, King ..... the House shut down the government because Obama wouldn't agree to halt obamacare. A clean CR would pass the House and Senate.

There probably will be some spending negotiations over general spending and revenue vis a vis the debt ceiling. The CR is pretty much over ... aside from Cruz offering his sword to Reid.

 

[g5000]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Why do you pretend the GOP has nothing to do with the deficit?

Most of the budget is non-discretionary spending. After you take all the taxes we collect, and then spend it on non-discretionary spending, there isn't any money left over for an Army Jeep, or a mortgage interest deduction, or a child tax credit.

So go ahead and explain to us how the fiscally responsible GOP managed to double the national debt when they controlled all three branches of government and we are supposed to pretend that never happened.

Why did it take a negro with a D after his name to suddenly make the GOP concerned about spending and deficits? Bush never ran a surplus in his entire time in office!

 

[OriginalShroom]

bendog,

Enough bill have been passed by the House and sent to the Senate to fund 99% of the Government.

Reid refuses to bring them to a vote...

Now..... Who is responsible for shutting down the Government again?

 

[g5000]

The Dems will negotiate over entitlements and taxes. They will not negotiate over ObamaCare.

Simple to understand and yet sails a mile over the GOP's head.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Why do you pretend the GOP has nothing to do with the deficit?

Most of the budget is non-discretionary spending. After you take all the taxes we collect, and then spend it on non-discretionary spending, there isn't any money left over for an Army Jeep, or a mortgage interest deduction, or a child tax credit.

So go ahead and explain to us how the fiscally responsible GOP managed to double the national debt when they controlled all three branches of government and we are supposed to pretend that never happened.

Why did it take a negro with a D after his name to suddenly make the GOP concerned about spending and deficits?

He shouldn't bother to explain anything to you. You are nothing more than a conceited holyier than thou version of Fake Jake. Your number has been called and nothing but silence was heard in response.

 

[g5000]

If we eliminated every last tax expenditure, we would be running a surplus right now. And we would be able to lower tax rates!

But watch a Republican swallow his tongue if you suggest such a thing. "Fiscally responsible Republican" is an oxymoron.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The Dems will negotiate over entitlements and taxes. They will not negotiate over ObamaCare.

Simple to understand and yet sails a mile over the GOP's head.

Is this Bucs alt account or Jakes?

 

[HenryBHough]

And the hostage crisis that is Obamacare rolls on. Want to see how much of a disaster is already is? Simple just go to their website and try to use it.

 

[The T]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Article 1, Section 7, And they're standing their ground.

 

[kaz]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Why do you pretend the GOP has nothing to do with the deficit?

Most of the budget is non-discretionary spending. After you take all the taxes we collect, and then spend it on non-discretionary spending, there isn't any money left over for an Army Jeep, or a mortgage interest deduction, or a child tax credit.

So go ahead and explain to us how the fiscally responsible GOP managed to double the national debt when they controlled all three branches of government and we are supposed to pretend that never happened.

Why did it take a negro with a D after his name to suddenly make the GOP concerned about spending and deficits? Bush never ran a surplus in his entire time in office!

Total deflection, this has nothing to do with my question. If you want to discuss this, start a thread on it. I'll join in if it's interesting. But as for your hijacking mine, pass.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Why do you pretend the GOP has nothing to do with the deficit?

Most of the budget is non-discretionary spending. After you take all the taxes we collect, and then spend it on non-discretionary spending, there isn't any money left over for an Army Jeep, or a mortgage interest deduction, or a child tax credit.

So go ahead and explain to us how the fiscally responsible GOP managed to double the national debt when they controlled all three branches of government and we are supposed to pretend that never happened.

Why did it take a negro with a D after his name to suddenly make the GOP concerned about spending and deficits? Bush never ran a surplus in his entire time in office!

Facts do not support your claims. the reality is most of Bush's deficit came after 2006. Further only 4 of the 8 years under Bush did Republicans control both houses and then never by a very big majority. The Senate was 51 Republicans and 49 Democrats.

And no political party controls the Judiciary, but if they did it would be democrats since they controlled the Senate for more years then the republicans and all appointments have to pass the Senate.

 

[kaz]

I think it's been answered ad nausem, and by conservatives at the Wall St. J., Kasich, Scarborough, King ..... the House shut down the government because Obama wouldn't agree to halt obamacare. A clean CR would pass the House and Senate.

There probably will be some spending negotiations over general spending and revenue vis a vis the debt ceiling. The CR is pretty much over ... aside from Cruz offering his sword to Reid.

That isn't an answer. Republicans don't want to fund obamacare, you're just repeating the liberal talking point that they have no say, they have to pass it. Address the question.

 

[kaz]

The Dems will negotiate over entitlements and taxes. They will not negotiate over ObamaCare.

Simple to understand and yet sails a mile over the GOP's head.

Which is why it's the fault of the Democrats. The GOP controlled house is not required to pass anything just because the Democrats will not negotiate. And it's as you accurately pointing out the Democrats who will not negotiate.

House - Republican
Senate - Democrat
White House - Democrat.

That means the sides have to ... wait for it ... agree to a compromise.

 

[kaz]

If we eliminated every last tax expenditure, we would be running a surplus right now. And we would be able to lower tax rates!

But watch a Republican swallow his tongue if you suggest such a thing. "Fiscally responsible Republican" is an oxymoron.

Can you translate your post from babble to English?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Why do you pretend the GOP has nothing to do with the deficit?

Most of the budget is non-discretionary spending. After you take all the taxes we collect, and then spend it on non-discretionary spending, there isn't any money left over for an Army Jeep, or a mortgage interest deduction, or a child tax credit.

So go ahead and explain to us how the fiscally responsible GOP managed to double the national debt when they controlled all three branches of government and we are supposed to pretend that never happened.

Why did it take a negro with a D after his name to suddenly make the GOP concerned about spending and deficits? Bush never ran a surplus in his entire time in office!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

U.S. Federal Deficits, Presidents, and Congress

Check out the deficit in the years the dems controlled one or both Houses under Bush. Then look at what happened under the Dems with Obama as President.

 

[Oldstyle]

The Dems will negotiate over entitlements and taxes. They will not negotiate over ObamaCare.

Simple to understand and yet sails a mile over the GOP's head.

Ah...wouldn't ObamaCare fall under the heading of an entitlement? So why won't the Democrats negotiate on it? It's not a well written piece of legislation. It's got glaring holes in it. So why won't the Democrats put reform of ObamaCare on the table?

My thoughts are that Progressives know it's going to fail...they just want it on the books and people getting that new entitlement because that makes it easier to go back and pitch doing a full government takeover of the health care system which is what they wanted in the first place. If they were to fix ObamaCare then that wouldn't happen.

 

[Interpol]

I keep asking liberals this and not getting an answer. You say over and over that Obama and Reid don't have to negotiate, the minority Republicans have no say. But the Republicans are the majority in the House, and according to the Constitution, spending bills have to pass the House.

So how is it that when Obama/Reid won't negotiate, it's the Republicans who have no say and are the ones shutting down government? Stop dodging and answer the question.

Another whiner whining.

The House doesn't have a say, you say? Are you effing kidding?

Do you even know what the Continuing Resolution is and does? It's the Republican-approved Sequester Budget that Harry Reid and then Obama signed off on. It cuts discretionary spending as well as spending on a host of liberal issues.

Why Republicans aren't passing it is baffling.

But to say they have no say is just stupid, when it's a conservative budget in the first place in a land where they only control one third of the government.

Obama gave them $9 in spending cuts last year for every $1 in tax increases, and you have the nerve to ask why Republicans don't have a say? Are you retarded?

This whole economy is still modeled after the Republican scam that is "trickle down", which really means trickle down pain for regular people but unlimited wealth for the very few.

Stop bitching. This is a Republican free market still at work for Mitt Romney and all your other heroes, just not you and every other regular person in this country.

Get a clue.