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WOW! what a rant....What real purpose would it serve other than nice to know information? You can NOT stop gun violence, period. You can NOT take every gun off the streets. You can not legislate gun violence away. You can not go door to door evaluating the mentally sane from the mentally insane. You can not stop sudden anger and feelings of despair.FYI - We can NOT stop gun violence, it's impossible. It doesn't matter how much the horrible crime is studied, nor who studies it, gun violence will continue. There are millions of guns in the hands of the general public, and there's no way to take all the guns away from people. Guns are shipped into this country every single day. People sell guns on the black market, and over the internet.What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
Anyone that wants a gun can get their hands on a gun. You can NOT legislate guns away, nor will any study prevent gun violence. A study would be a huge waste of money and resources that could be put to better use. We have tried to get rid of illegal drugs, tried to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, and have spent untold $Billions trying to stop world terrorism. Each time, we failed, and failed after we threw money and resources at the problems.
In addition, what real purpose would a study of gun violence serve? Hell, anyone can pick up a daily newspaper and read about gun violence, and that in itself is a study. We already know that gun violence stems from domestic disputes, illegal drug and gang activity, and mostly from mentally disturbed individuals. We also know that gun violence can be attributed to politics, religion, cults, hatred, revenge, jealousy, greed, adultery, alcohol and drug abuse, and many other driving influences.
Personally, I had rather see money spent on beneficial projects and programs where actual results can be seen and felt by this nation and her citizens as a whole. Why not spend funds on infrastructure, education, science, alternative energy, and our needy Vets? Why throw money away on a study that would amount to "nice to know information", but wouldn't solve the problem?
What is wrong with gathering scientific data on gun violence? If you don't have actual data then how can you form intelligent policies to address it? Research is neutral - it's what you do with it, that has partisan ramifications.
You can not prevent sniper attacks like we see in Arizona. You can NOT prevent those that want to use a gun for the wrong reasons, from using them, if they so wish. So again, what real purpose would a study on gun violence serve? We can study the daily headlines and tell just as much as any study would reveal. A study would be a waste of money and resources that could be used for something that might show beneficial results for this nation and her citizens as a whole.
Why not waste money studying why illegals enter the U.S. illegally? Why not waste money trying to determine why we're sending our soldiers to fight and die on foreign soil in senseless deadly costly wars? Why not study why we have 47 million citizens dependent on food stamps? Use money and resources wisely. Cut wasteful spending.
POLITICS, plain and simple.CDC should stick to it's job description....................Like Cancer treatments.........Fighting infections............Not Gun Control BS.
I agree, but why are they being blocked from studying not gun control, GUN VIOLENCE?
Data are neutral, numbskull.How ignorant is thatDo you have your doctor study computer viruses?
Do you let the foxes study your hen house?
Data is neutral and is used to make decisions other then physical medicine , there are other inputs that affect health and welfare of the population
The information is already available. We know the causes of gun violence. Basically, it's common knowledge. I have listed some of the causes in my earlier comments. Do you know of anything that would be a surprise at this stage in the game?WOW! what a rant....What real purpose would it serve other than nice to know information? You can NOT stop gun violence, period. You can NOT take every gun off the streets. You can not legislate gun violence away. You can not go door to door evaluating the mentally sane from the mentally insane. You can not stop sudden anger and feelings of despair.FYI - We can NOT stop gun violence, it's impossible. It doesn't matter how much the horrible crime is studied, nor who studies it, gun violence will continue. There are millions of guns in the hands of the general public, and there's no way to take all the guns away from people. Guns are shipped into this country every single day. People sell guns on the black market, and over the internet.What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
Anyone that wants a gun can get their hands on a gun. You can NOT legislate guns away, nor will any study prevent gun violence. A study would be a huge waste of money and resources that could be put to better use. We have tried to get rid of illegal drugs, tried to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, and have spent untold $Billions trying to stop world terrorism. Each time, we failed, and failed after we threw money and resources at the problems.
In addition, what real purpose would a study of gun violence serve? Hell, anyone can pick up a daily newspaper and read about gun violence, and that in itself is a study. We already know that gun violence stems from domestic disputes, illegal drug and gang activity, and mostly from mentally disturbed individuals. We also know that gun violence can be attributed to politics, religion, cults, hatred, revenge, jealousy, greed, adultery, alcohol and drug abuse, and many other driving influences.
Personally, I had rather see money spent on beneficial projects and programs where actual results can be seen and felt by this nation and her citizens as a whole. Why not spend funds on infrastructure, education, science, alternative energy, and our needy Vets? Why throw money away on a study that would amount to "nice to know information", but wouldn't solve the problem?
What is wrong with gathering scientific data on gun violence? If you don't have actual data then how can you form intelligent policies to address it? Research is neutral - it's what you do with it, that has partisan ramifications.
You can not prevent sniper attacks like we see in Arizona. You can NOT prevent those that want to use a gun for the wrong reasons, from using them, if they so wish. So again, what real purpose would a study on gun violence serve? We can study the daily headlines and tell just as much as any study would reveal. A study would be a waste of money and resources that could be used for something that might show beneficial results for this nation and her citizens as a whole.
Why not waste money studying why illegals enter the U.S. illegally? Why not waste money trying to determine why we're sending our soldiers to fight and die on foreign soil in senseless deadly costly wars? Why not study why we have 47 million citizens dependent on food stamps? Use money and resources wisely. Cut wasteful spending.
certainly you can recognize that numbers go up and down due to surrounding circumstances...
analyzing this, as with all information ever produced for analysis, gives us a better understanding of the who, what, where, when and hows of it all.
Information is important, in order to learn about things.
How can you not get this?
Data are neutral, numbskull.How ignorant is thatDo you have your doctor study computer viruses?
Do you let the foxes study your hen house?
Data is neutral and is used to make decisions other then physical medicine , there are other inputs that affect health and welfare of the population
And of course that is wrong because "data" can mean anything.
Yes. With proper study we could find out that Republicans are the major cause of gun violence, along with conservative talk radio. We could use this information to ban both of those things, saving millions of lives! Think!The information is already available. We know the causes of gun violence. Basically, it's common knowledge. I have listed some of the causes in my earlier comments. Do you know of anything that would be a surprise at this stage in the game?WOW! what a rant....What real purpose would it serve other than nice to know information? You can NOT stop gun violence, period. You can NOT take every gun off the streets. You can not legislate gun violence away. You can not go door to door evaluating the mentally sane from the mentally insane. You can not stop sudden anger and feelings of despair.FYI - We can NOT stop gun violence, it's impossible. It doesn't matter how much the horrible crime is studied, nor who studies it, gun violence will continue. There are millions of guns in the hands of the general public, and there's no way to take all the guns away from people. Guns are shipped into this country every single day. People sell guns on the black market, and over the internet.What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
Anyone that wants a gun can get their hands on a gun. You can NOT legislate guns away, nor will any study prevent gun violence. A study would be a huge waste of money and resources that could be put to better use. We have tried to get rid of illegal drugs, tried to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, and have spent untold $Billions trying to stop world terrorism. Each time, we failed, and failed after we threw money and resources at the problems.
In addition, what real purpose would a study of gun violence serve? Hell, anyone can pick up a daily newspaper and read about gun violence, and that in itself is a study. We already know that gun violence stems from domestic disputes, illegal drug and gang activity, and mostly from mentally disturbed individuals. We also know that gun violence can be attributed to politics, religion, cults, hatred, revenge, jealousy, greed, adultery, alcohol and drug abuse, and many other driving influences.
Personally, I had rather see money spent on beneficial projects and programs where actual results can be seen and felt by this nation and her citizens as a whole. Why not spend funds on infrastructure, education, science, alternative energy, and our needy Vets? Why throw money away on a study that would amount to "nice to know information", but wouldn't solve the problem?
What is wrong with gathering scientific data on gun violence? If you don't have actual data then how can you form intelligent policies to address it? Research is neutral - it's what you do with it, that has partisan ramifications.
You can not prevent sniper attacks like we see in Arizona. You can NOT prevent those that want to use a gun for the wrong reasons, from using them, if they so wish. So again, what real purpose would a study on gun violence serve? We can study the daily headlines and tell just as much as any study would reveal. A study would be a waste of money and resources that could be used for something that might show beneficial results for this nation and her citizens as a whole.
Why not waste money studying why illegals enter the U.S. illegally? Why not waste money trying to determine why we're sending our soldiers to fight and die on foreign soil in senseless deadly costly wars? Why not study why we have 47 million citizens dependent on food stamps? Use money and resources wisely. Cut wasteful spending.
certainly you can recognize that numbers go up and down due to surrounding circumstances...
analyzing this, as with all information ever produced for analysis, gives us a better understanding of the who, what, where, when and hows of it all.
Information is important, in order to learn about things.
How can you not get this?
That's very funny. Obviously, you missed your calling.Yes. With proper study we could find out that Republicans are the major cause of gun violence, along with conservative talk radio. We could use this information to ban both of those things, saving millions of lives! Think!The information is already available. We know the causes of gun violence. Basically, it's common knowledge. I have listed some of the causes in my earlier comments. Do you know of anything that would be a surprise at this stage in the game?WOW! what a rant....What real purpose would it serve other than nice to know information? You can NOT stop gun violence, period. You can NOT take every gun off the streets. You can not legislate gun violence away. You can not go door to door evaluating the mentally sane from the mentally insane. You can not stop sudden anger and feelings of despair.FYI - We can NOT stop gun violence, it's impossible. It doesn't matter how much the horrible crime is studied, nor who studies it, gun violence will continue. There are millions of guns in the hands of the general public, and there's no way to take all the guns away from people. Guns are shipped into this country every single day. People sell guns on the black market, and over the internet.
Anyone that wants a gun can get their hands on a gun. You can NOT legislate guns away, nor will any study prevent gun violence. A study would be a huge waste of money and resources that could be put to better use. We have tried to get rid of illegal drugs, tried to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, and have spent untold $Billions trying to stop world terrorism. Each time, we failed, and failed after we threw money and resources at the problems.
In addition, what real purpose would a study of gun violence serve? Hell, anyone can pick up a daily newspaper and read about gun violence, and that in itself is a study. We already know that gun violence stems from domestic disputes, illegal drug and gang activity, and mostly from mentally disturbed individuals. We also know that gun violence can be attributed to politics, religion, cults, hatred, revenge, jealousy, greed, adultery, alcohol and drug abuse, and many other driving influences.
Personally, I had rather see money spent on beneficial projects and programs where actual results can be seen and felt by this nation and her citizens as a whole. Why not spend funds on infrastructure, education, science, alternative energy, and our needy Vets? Why throw money away on a study that would amount to "nice to know information", but wouldn't solve the problem?
What is wrong with gathering scientific data on gun violence? If you don't have actual data then how can you form intelligent policies to address it? Research is neutral - it's what you do with it, that has partisan ramifications.
You can not prevent sniper attacks like we see in Arizona. You can NOT prevent those that want to use a gun for the wrong reasons, from using them, if they so wish. So again, what real purpose would a study on gun violence serve? We can study the daily headlines and tell just as much as any study would reveal. A study would be a waste of money and resources that could be used for something that might show beneficial results for this nation and her citizens as a whole.
Why not waste money studying why illegals enter the U.S. illegally? Why not waste money trying to determine why we're sending our soldiers to fight and die on foreign soil in senseless deadly costly wars? Why not study why we have 47 million citizens dependent on food stamps? Use money and resources wisely. Cut wasteful spending.
certainly you can recognize that numbers go up and down due to surrounding circumstances...
analyzing this, as with all information ever produced for analysis, gives us a better understanding of the who, what, where, when and hows of it all.
Information is important, in order to learn about things.
How can you not get this?
Not the current CDC.Not sure why the Left is pushing for this.
The CDC is far more likely to blame the shooter than the firearm.
Completely derailing their talking points
No....that's racist.CDC should look into if there's a genetic predisposition to gun violence
How ignorant is thatDo you have your doctor study computer viruses?
Do you let the foxes study your hen house?
Data is neutral and is used to make decisions other then physical medicine , there are other inputs that affect health and welfare of the population
The "studies" would be politicized wastes of tax payer funds. We pretty much know what we need to know about firearms related deaths.
I think Glowbull Warming is a major contributing factor......along with too many pansy-assed pussy-wimps who can't get laid running around college campuses.Yes. With proper study we could find out that Republicans are the major cause of gun violence, along with conservative talk radio. We could use this information to ban both of those things, saving millions of lives! Think!The information is already available. We know the causes of gun violence. Basically, it's common knowledge. I have listed some of the causes in my earlier comments. Do you know of anything that would be a surprise at this stage in the game?WOW! what a rant....What real purpose would it serve other than nice to know information? You can NOT stop gun violence, period. You can NOT take every gun off the streets. You can not legislate gun violence away. You can not go door to door evaluating the mentally sane from the mentally insane. You can not stop sudden anger and feelings of despair.FYI - We can NOT stop gun violence, it's impossible. It doesn't matter how much the horrible crime is studied, nor who studies it, gun violence will continue. There are millions of guns in the hands of the general public, and there's no way to take all the guns away from people. Guns are shipped into this country every single day. People sell guns on the black market, and over the internet.
Anyone that wants a gun can get their hands on a gun. You can NOT legislate guns away, nor will any study prevent gun violence. A study would be a huge waste of money and resources that could be put to better use. We have tried to get rid of illegal drugs, tried to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, and have spent untold $Billions trying to stop world terrorism. Each time, we failed, and failed after we threw money and resources at the problems.
In addition, what real purpose would a study of gun violence serve? Hell, anyone can pick up a daily newspaper and read about gun violence, and that in itself is a study. We already know that gun violence stems from domestic disputes, illegal drug and gang activity, and mostly from mentally disturbed individuals. We also know that gun violence can be attributed to politics, religion, cults, hatred, revenge, jealousy, greed, adultery, alcohol and drug abuse, and many other driving influences.
Personally, I had rather see money spent on beneficial projects and programs where actual results can be seen and felt by this nation and her citizens as a whole. Why not spend funds on infrastructure, education, science, alternative energy, and our needy Vets? Why throw money away on a study that would amount to "nice to know information", but wouldn't solve the problem?
What is wrong with gathering scientific data on gun violence? If you don't have actual data then how can you form intelligent policies to address it? Research is neutral - it's what you do with it, that has partisan ramifications.
You can not prevent sniper attacks like we see in Arizona. You can NOT prevent those that want to use a gun for the wrong reasons, from using them, if they so wish. So again, what real purpose would a study on gun violence serve? We can study the daily headlines and tell just as much as any study would reveal. A study would be a waste of money and resources that could be used for something that might show beneficial results for this nation and her citizens as a whole.
Why not waste money studying why illegals enter the U.S. illegally? Why not waste money trying to determine why we're sending our soldiers to fight and die on foreign soil in senseless deadly costly wars? Why not study why we have 47 million citizens dependent on food stamps? Use money and resources wisely. Cut wasteful spending.
certainly you can recognize that numbers go up and down due to surrounding circumstances...
analyzing this, as with all information ever produced for analysis, gives us a better understanding of the who, what, where, when and hows of it all.
Information is important, in order to learn about things.
How can you not get this?
Not all information is valid.INFORMATION IS STUPID!
What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
The Center for Disease Control should be spending its time scientifically examining diseases, not crime.
I know there are a lot of other things anyone could be doing but Why should they be blocked from allowing to do the research again?
Why are you afraid to this studied?
What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?
Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc
In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.
Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.
“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”
In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.
“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”
But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?
“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”
Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.
But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.
The Center for Disease Control should be spending its time scientifically examining diseases, not crime.
I know there are a lot of other things anyone could be doing but Why should they be blocked from allowing to do the research again?
How are you going to quote my post, then ask the very question that my post answers?
