Why does China get a free pass from some?

[JoeB131]

They all disagree with your assertion that the travel ban was bad. You people have such a hard on for GETTRUMP you’ve lost all objectivity.

Actually, it was a stupid idea for the reasons stated. It didn't stop Americans who were infected from coming back with the virus. It actually panicked them into rushing back here.

 

[JoeB131]

South Koreans gave up freedoms that Americans would never give up. You do know that? Right?

No, they actually handled this the correct way, which is why they have the problem contained and we clearly don't.

Of course, they didn't disband their Pandemic Response Team or call it a hoax for several months, so there's that.

 

[JoeB131]

When Xi denied the problem for 6 weeks, that allowed literally millions of COVID-19 contacts to spread throughout the world, which was EXACTLY his intent. That ************ is evil to the core.

And now he can buy equity in our public companies super cheap. Coincidence?

Speaking of weird conspiracy theories....

So you don’t think they can? Why not? They have the capital and stocks are dirt cheap. Explain why they wouldn’t .

They have been economically hit by this virus as well. Got any other weird conspiracy theories?

They could lose 100mil people and not lose a beat.

Not really. The one thing the Chinese leadership fears is having the people turn against them. It is a lot of people.

The one thing they don’t fear is people turning against them.
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Wow, your fake photo is definitely impressive.

Let's not forget, that Tibet was a brutal theocracy under the Lamas, but you guys never seem to remember that.

Here's the thing most of you guys don't get. For most Chinese, the vast majority who are Han Chinese, the Communists undid a century of humiliation of China at the hands of Foreign Powers starting with the Opium Wars in 1839 and ending with the Japanese invading China and killing millions of people.

This is why your fantasies about the people realizing "Communism bad" like they did in let's say, Russia, are never going to happen.

We need to worry about the cartoonish buffoon we have rather than what they did. We've already exceeded them in the number of cases and we are catching up with them in the number of deaths.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It is. Forget us. What about Europe? Italy, France, Germany, UK...you blame that on Trump too? China started this and it seems as though most plagues come from there.

Again, somewhere in Hell, Dr. Goebbels is having a laugh.

Let's not forget, the Jews got blamed for the Black Death.

I do not believe in Hell but it exists you will certainly go there and join your Dr. friend.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

South Koreans gave up freedoms that Americans would never give up. You do know that? Right?

No, they actually handled this the correct way, which is why they have the problem contained and we clearly don't.

Of course, they didn't disband their Pandemic Response Team or call it a hoax for several months, so there's that.

They gave up freedoms and yes that worked. He never did that. Keep lying.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

When Xi denied the problem for 6 weeks, that allowed literally millions of COVID-19 contacts to spread throughout the world, which was EXACTLY his intent. That ************ is evil to the core.

And now he can buy equity in our public companies super cheap. Coincidence?

Speaking of weird conspiracy theories....

So you don’t think they can? Why not? They have the capital and stocks are dirt cheap. Explain why they wouldn’t .

They have been economically hit by this virus as well. Got any other weird conspiracy theories?

They could lose 100mil people and not lose a beat.

Not really. The one thing the Chinese leadership fears is having the people turn against them. It is a lot of people.

The one thing they don’t fear is people turning against them.
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Wow, your fake photo is definitely impressive.

Let's not forget, that Tibet was a brutal theocracy under the Lamas, but you guys never seem to remember that.

Here's the thing most of you guys don't get. For most Chinese, the vast majority who are Han Chinese, the Communists undid a century of humiliation of China at the hands of Foreign Powers starting with the Opium Wars in 1839 and ending with the Japanese invading China and killing millions of people.

This is why your fantasies about the people realizing "Communism bad" like they did in let's say, Russia, are never going to happen.

We need to worry about the cartoonish buffoon we have rather than what they did. We've already exceeded them in the number of cases and we are catching up with them in the number of deaths.

LOL no Joe is defending communism. What a tool. You also defending that China started this virus and is not reporting accurate statistics?

 

[LeftofLeft]

They all disagree with your assertion that the travel ban was bad. You people have such a hard on for GETTRUMP you’ve lost all objectivity.

Actually, it was a stupid idea for the reasons stated. It didn't stop Americans who were infected from coming back with the virus. It actually panicked them into rushing back here.

Ok, give US the numbers. Show US a model validating you position with empirical data in your scenario of not making a move to close borders/restrict travel vs. the chosen path of closing the borders/restricting travel.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They all disagree with your assertion that the travel ban was bad. You people have such a hard on for GETTRUMP you’ve lost all objectivity.

Actually, it was a stupid idea for the reasons stated. It didn't stop Americans who were infected from coming back with the virus. It actually panicked them into rushing back here.

Ok, give US the numbers. Show US a model validating you position with empirical data in your scenario of not making a move to close borders/restrict travel vs. the chosen path of closing the borders/restricting travel.

That's not the correct approach. The correct approach is to survey past data and past studies of the effectiveness of travel bans. And epidemiologists are pretty much unanimous that they are not effective. But propagandists are also unanimous on that it is effective propaganda, haha

 

[LeftofLeft]

They all disagree with your assertion that the travel ban was bad. You people have such a hard on for GETTRUMP you’ve lost all objectivity.

Actually, it was a stupid idea for the reasons stated. It didn't stop Americans who were infected from coming back with the virus. It actually panicked them into rushing back here.

Ok, give US the numbers. Show US a model validating you position with empirical data in your scenario of not making a move to close borders/restrict travel vs. the chosen path of closing the borders/restricting travel.

That's not the correct approach. The correct approach is to survey past data and past studies of the effectiveness of travel bans. And epidemiologists are pretty much unanimous that they are not effective. But propagandists are also unanimous on that it is effective propaganda, haha

What is the survey from epidemiologists? I don’t see too many of them flocking to say “lift the travel ban”. States outside of NY like Florida are already concerned about new people coming since the outbreak. If the name of the game is containment, how can a travel ban or travel restrictions at a minimum NOT be effective?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I don’t see too many of them flocking to say “lift the travel ban”.

That's how a politician talks, not a scientist. A scientist says things like, "per the studies, travel bans are not effective". And yes, that is indeed what scientists are saying. If you want to take the stance that bans should be in place for an abundance of caution, or to soothe people, that's your prerogative. But what you can't do is say they are based on objective data, or recommendations of scientists.

 

[Wapasha]

Nobody wants to hear what Trump has to say

We turn to Fauci to learn the truth in a crisis

Fauci has his one lane of expertise, that's it. Trump talks to his entire administration, and the private sector. So if the only person you want to hear from is Fauci, you'll only get 10% of the information that the public needs.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I don’t see too many of them flocking to say “lift the travel ban”.

That's how a politician talks, not a scientist. A scientist says things like, "per the studies, travel bans are not effective". And yes, that is indeed what scientists are saying. If you want to take the stance that bans should be in place for an abundance of caution, or to soothe people, that's your prerogative. But what you can't do is say they are based on objective data, or recommendations of scientists.

Let’s see the studies. Who studied them? What was the data? Might as well take poll.... we all know how reliable those are.

 

[Wapasha]

If trump was not out in front every day holding his press conference you would accuse him of indifference and say he was ignoring the problem

I know.

If Trump stands up - "OMG! Look at Trump, he's trying to lord over us all like a dictator."

Trump sits down - "OMG! Look how lazy Trump is, he just doesn't care! He should remember why he was elected."

Trump delegates these daily press brief to he administration heads - "Trump's just a puppet, look at the man, he doesn't even know enough about what's going on to even answer a few questions at a daily briefing."

 

[Wapasha]

Of course, they didn't disband their Pandemic Response Team or call it a hoax for several months, so there's that.

Back in January Trump declared COVID-19 a national medical emergency, closed flights from China, and instituted quarantine procedures. Sorry charlie, those are not consistent with the man who you claimed viewed the virus as a hoax.

You need new trolling material, cuz you sound like a fool

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Let’s see the studies.

Look them up.

Who studied them?

Scientists working for universities and organizations like the WHO and CDC.

Might as well take poll.... we all know how reliable those are.

As opposed to...your gut feelings? STFU, you silly doubters would piss on any science that doesn't powder your whiny asses and tell you uneducated slobs that, "oh look, your gut feelings about a scientific topic were right all along!"

If you care, you will go read up. If you don't, you won't. The rest is up to you.

 

[JoeB131]

LOL no Joe is defending communism. What a tool. You also defending that China started this virus and is not reporting accurate statistics?

At what point did we start taking anything the Chinese government says at face value? We spend 100 Billion a year on intelligence gathering operations... It wasn't that the intel wasn't available, it was that Trump ignored it for months, calling it a hoax, saying it would go away when the weather was warm, saying we had it under control, etc.

 

[JoeB131]

Back in January Trump declared COVID-19 a national medical emergency, closed flights from China, and instituted quarantine procedures. Sorry charlie, those are not consistent with the man who you claimed viewed the virus as a hoax.

He also called it a hoax, said it was contained when it wasn't, said that this problem would be resolved when the weather got warmer, claimed we had a vaccine that was going to be available any day now.

Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March

President Donald Trump began March with a barrage of false claims about the coronavirus pandemic -- understating the extent of the crisis, overstating the availability of tests, inaccurately blaming his predecessor and wrongly insisting that the crisis was unforeseen.

www.cnn.com

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

LOL no Joe is defending communism. What a tool. You also defending that China started this virus and is not reporting accurate statistics?

At what point did we start taking anything the Chinese government says at face value? We spend 100 Billion a year on intelligence gathering operations... It wasn't that the intel wasn't available, it was that Trump ignored it for months, calling it a hoax, saying it would go away when the weather was warm, saying we had it under control, etc.

link that "he" ignored it

 

[JoeB131]

link that "he" ignored it

Why, you'll just pretend you didn't see it or claim it doesn't say what it obviously says.

Trump Dismissed Intel, Warned in January of COVID-19 Threat

Trump's aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus's seriousness, according to the Post.

www.telesurenglish.net

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

link that "he" ignored it

Why, you'll just pretend you didn't see it or claim it doesn't say what it obviously says.

Trump Dismissed Intel, Warned in January of COVID-19 Threat

Trump's aides tried in vain to convince him of the virus's seriousness, according to the Post.

www.telesurenglish.net

Link from a source that I ve heard of lol