Why Do You Love The Communists?

[PoliticalChic]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

Yet you can't find any of my linked, sourced, documented quotes to be in error.

You must be an idiot, huh?

The error starts right after you say -- how about a little history...

Your Glen Beck University degree is toilet paper, baby.

You make these unsubstantiated links between mainstream left-of-center dems and atrocities committed by tyrants under the banner of "communism" and "socialism"... yet you fail to understand, communism never really existed except on paper.

Nazi Germany is a dictatorship -- they called themselves socialist, but capitalists got rich, you dumb cow.

Read Animal Farm. No body was every equal in the USSR.

You've got this extreme narrow-minded, dimwitted understanding of history, politics... Jesus you are so far gone, brainwashed.... it would be impossible to bring you back to normalcy, so we'll just mock you like a screeching train wreck on American Idol who doesn't realize she can't sing....


What you're trying to discuss is really too complicated for your small mind to wrap around.


I bet you're the girl who runs out of the community college history class, crying when the prof mocks her for regurgitating some Fox News/Glenn Beck re-write of history.

I bet you think FDR was a bad President... because that's what Beck told you to think.

You have no sense or understanding of history.

Still can't find a single error in my posts, huh?

The vitriol is totally understandable. You simply cannot admit, even to yourself, that you have been so fooled, for so many years, to accept and endorse the very same beliefs as Stalin, Hitler, and pretty much every totalitarian in modern history. Even when the proof is right before your eyes.

I pointed out the error -- right after you say, how about a little history... nothing after that is valid or correct.



See how easy that was.


Your notion that mainstream American Dems love "communism" as represented by Russia is ******* retarded.

Not only do you not really understand what communism was as a failed experiment, nor do you prove in any way form or shape that the modern Democratic party has any connection or like for the concept.


Also, when you number things...

1.

2.

3.


Try to have them relate to one another in such a way that numbering is needed. You know, logic.


Here's what your numbering system looks like:


1. My cat.

2. Bacon.

3. Devil.

4. Obama.


See, only in your crazy head does that make sense.

Get right back to me after you read

Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,”

and

"Dupes: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century,"
by Paul Kengor

 

[rightwinger]

Commies...everywhere I look

Commies

 

[PoliticalChic]

OP- Where do you get that? Not since 1935 anyway.

You're such a dope.
Almost every aim of the CPUSA is part of the Liberal/Democrat vision for America.


1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252


Does he sound just like a certain President??


3. That's quite a jump, from Stalin to Obama, you say. How did it happen? Well, let's admit that the ascension of Barack Obama proves the ideological victory of Marxian beliefs. Perhaps the greatest factor was, as historian Robert Conquest explains it, that the West, unlike the USSR, "did not have a universal and exclusively defined mind-set." They attacked, and won, in the universities, the media, pop culture, the arts, and even Wall Street. Robert Conquest, "Reflections on a Ravaged Century," p. 155.

a. The details of the attack involve the writings of Antonio Gramsci, the invasion by the 'Frankfurt School, the early attacks by Progressives, and the shredding of the Constitution by FDR....and lets not forget Saul Alinsky. All of flowed from the wellspring of Marxism, and flooded, saturated, and finally, warped, Western Civilization.

Only a few in name only holdout countries CALL themselves communists, and the CPUSA has given up. They have power only in Pubdupe world. But thanks for the bs propaganda/spam.

I can't figure out it you're more of a moron, or more of a liar.

RSVP?



1. "Communist Party USA Chairman Vows Cooperation With Democratic Party"
Communist Party USA Work With Democrats The Daily Caller



2. New York State Communist Party

• • 235 W. 23rd St. 8th Fl.
  • New York, NY 10011
  • Tel: 212-924-0550
  • Email: ny@cpusa.org
  • Website

3. Communist running for Democrat nomination for President: Bernie Sanders.

Sanders is a democratic socialist, as are all socialists since about 1935. But carry on, very amusing.

1.Michael Harrington, founder of the Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA., knew that infiltration of the Democratic Party was primary, and it already contained all of the progressive elements The Eduard Bernstein Internet Archive
Socialism time line. The DSA remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1

and

The Grasp of Socialist International

2. Creation of the Progressive Caucus is credited to Bernie Sanders. The groups in the radical network include a) the Congressional Progressive Caucus, b) the Congressional Black Caucus, c) the Populist Caucus, and the d) Progressive Democrats of America.

a. Allied with the above is ACORN, SEIU, and the Institute for Policy Studies

b. And, indirectly, the Center for American Progress and the Apollo Alliance.


3. In an article on socialism in the Encyclopedia Britannica, Prof. G. D. H. Cole, a leading theoretician and historian of the British Labor Party, declares: The distinction between socialism as distinguished by various Labor and Socialist parties of Europe and the New World, and communism, as represented by the Russians and minority parties in other countries is one of tactics-and-strategy rather than one of objective. Communism is indeed only socialism pursued by revolutionary means and making its revolutionary method a canon of faith...."

In The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels stated that communist ends can be attained "only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions."



So......why are you so dumb?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Commies...everywhere I look

Commies

Time for you to make that your avi.

 

[hazlnut]

Polichick... you and Sam Cooke

Yet you can't find any of my linked, sourced, documented quotes to be in error.

You must be an idiot, huh?

The error starts right after you say -- how about a little history...

Your Glen Beck University degree is toilet paper, baby.

You make these unsubstantiated links between mainstream left-of-center dems and atrocities committed by tyrants under the banner of "communism" and "socialism"... yet you fail to understand, communism never really existed except on paper.

Nazi Germany is a dictatorship -- they called themselves socialist, but capitalists got rich, you dumb cow.

Read Animal Farm. No body was every equal in the USSR.

You've got this extreme narrow-minded, dimwitted understanding of history, politics... Jesus you are so far gone, brainwashed.... it would be impossible to bring you back to normalcy, so we'll just mock you like a screeching train wreck on American Idol who doesn't realize she can't sing....


What you're trying to discuss is really too complicated for your small mind to wrap around.


I bet you're the girl who runs out of the community college history class, crying when the prof mocks her for regurgitating some Fox News/Glenn Beck re-write of history.

I bet you think FDR was a bad President... because that's what Beck told you to think.

You have no sense or understanding of history.

Still can't find a single error in my posts, huh?

The vitriol is totally understandable. You simply cannot admit, even to yourself, that you have been so fooled, for so many years, to accept and endorse the very same beliefs as Stalin, Hitler, and pretty much every totalitarian in modern history. Even when the proof is right before your eyes.

I pointed out the error -- right after you say, how about a little history... nothing after that is valid or correct.



See how easy that was.


Your notion that mainstream American Dems love "communism" as represented by Russia is ******* retarded.

Not only do you not really understand what communism was as a failed experiment, nor do you prove in any way form or shape that the modern Democratic party has any connection or like for the concept.


Also, when you number things...

1.

2.

3.


Try to have them relate to one another in such a way that numbering is needed. You know, logic.


Here's what your numbering system looks like:


1. My cat.

2. Bacon.

3. Devil.

4. Obama.


See, only in your crazy head does that make sense.

Get right back to me after you read

Paul Hollander, “Political Pilgrims,”

and

"Dupes: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century,"
by Paul Kengor

PoliChick.

The thread is over.

Give it up.

You lost.

1. Yogurt

2. Shampoo

3. Ice Cream (2 gallons)

4. Socialists

5. Hellfire

6. Obama

 

[hazlnut]

PoliChick's list that proves nothing:


1. Communism

2. Socialism

3. Nazism

4. Badism

5. Number Fiveism

6. Obama's college paper

7. Collegism

8. Link to some guy's blog.

9. Ta-dah.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Fallacy of false association.

PC loves these, forgetting that letters to her from Charles Manson makes her the accomplice of a horrific serial killer.

And professional debate forum would automatically discount the CPUSA support of the Democratic Party as any more than a fallacy of false association.

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC will never place one of her OPs in the CDZ.

She would lose in the first dozen posts.

 

[hazlnut]

Fallacy of false association.

PC loves these, forgetting that letters to her from Charles Manson makes her the accomplice of a horrific serial killer.

And professional debate forum would automatically discount the CPUSA support of the Democratic Party as any more than a fallacy of false association.

But she puts so much time into numbering everything.

It's got to be true.

Numbers don't lie.

 

[JakeStarkey]

She still adores the Count von Count on Sesame Street.

She sits and watches and giggles.

 

[Wry Catcher]

n

First define the terms. Start here:

Left right politics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

USA Modern History Glossary.

Political Science Glossary.

Then, when reading a thread/post evaluate their argument. If the first sentence attacks someone's intelligence, stop reading. Such a topic sentence is the work of a partisan hack who will never take the post of anyone who disagrees with her seriously.

Left wing politics = government runs your life

"There is general agreement:

that the Left includes: anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists,autonomists, communists, democratic-socialists, feminists, greens, left-libertarians,progressives, secularists, socialists, social-democrats and social-liberals.[5][6][7]

"There is also general consensous:

that the right includes: capitalists, conservatives, fascists,monarchists, nationalists,
neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, theocrats and traditionalists.[8]"

Can anything be clearer? The effort by the right wing to connect everything evil, and every liberal, progressive and policy by a Democratic President or Congress as evil is one more example of the BIG LIE and an effort by the Right to rewrite history.

A lie so transparent that only a moron like you could believe it.


Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization.
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf




Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



But you bought the propaganda like it was on sale.

That's because you're a moron.

The people of Salem, MA who murdered witches are now dead, as are most of those who believed fascism and communism were worthy foundations to form policies, later discovered as as harmful as there Salem progenitors.

Today's arch conservatives feel the same way, they believe they have found the truth, the way forward. In fact 21st Century Conservatives support exclusion and scapegoating which is the basis for all of PoliticalChic's proselytizing, and is little different than the attitude of 20th Century despots (and their followers) or 17th Century murderers. Callous conservatives are fast fading from the landscape, they only thrive, or believe they do, in the anonymity of the internet.

PC has once again proved that she cannot post a rebuttal which does not include an attack on the intelligence of her tormentor and anyone who dares to question her.

Q. How credible is one who must rely on the most basic logical fallacies.

 

[BluesLegend]

I've been banned from both left and right forums because I'm an independent. Not drinking the koolaid from either side doesn't make one a mental incompetent, but drinking the koolaid does.

Oh please from what I have seen from the vast majority of your posts you are way left of center.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I've been banned from both left and right forums because I'm an independent. Not drinking the koolaid from either side doesn't make one a mental incompetent, but drinking the koolaid does.

Oh please from what I have seen from the vast majority of your posts you are way left of center.

Because you are way right of center?

 

[PoliticalChic]

n

First define the terms. Start here:

Left right politics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

USA Modern History Glossary.

Political Science Glossary.

Then, when reading a thread/post evaluate their argument. If the first sentence attacks someone's intelligence, stop reading. Such a topic sentence is the work of a partisan hack who will never take the post of anyone who disagrees with her seriously.

Left wing politics = government runs your life

"There is general agreement:

that the Left includes: anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists,autonomists, communists, democratic-socialists, feminists, greens, left-libertarians,progressives, secularists, socialists, social-democrats and social-liberals.[5][6][7]

"There is also general consensous:

that the right includes: capitalists, conservatives, fascists,monarchists, nationalists,
neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, theocrats and traditionalists.[8]"

Can anything be clearer? The effort by the right wing to connect everything evil, and every liberal, progressive and policy by a Democratic President or Congress as evil is one more example of the BIG LIE and an effort by the Right to rewrite history.

A lie so transparent that only a moron like you could believe it.


Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization.
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf




Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



But you bought the propaganda like it was on sale.

That's because you're a moron.

The people of Salem, MA who murdered witches are now dead, as are most of those who believed fascism and communism were worthy foundations to form policies, later discovered as as harmful as there Salem progenitors.

Today's arch conservatives feel the same way, they believe they have found the truth, the way forward. In fact 21st Century Conservatives support exclusion and scapegoating which is the basis for all of PoliticalChic's proselytizing, and is little different than the attitude of 20th Century despots (and their followers) or 17th Century murderers. Callous conservatives are fast fading from the landscape, they only thrive, or believe they do, in the anonymity of the internet.

PC has once again proved that she cannot post a rebuttal which does not include an attack on the intelligence of her tormentor and anyone who dares to question her.

Q. How credible is one who must rely on the most basic logical fallacies.

'Tormentor'????

Your'e the king's fool.

Queen's in this case.



I defined Leftists for you earlier.

Here's the correct definition of conservatives, e.g., the Founders: a view based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Now....go ahead and prove my contention that you are incapable of learning.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I've been banned from both left and right forums because I'm an independent. Not drinking the koolaid from either side doesn't make one a mental incompetent, but drinking the koolaid does.

Oh please from what I have seen from the vast majority of your posts you are way left of center.

Because you are way right of center?

I wonder, the idiot fringe seems to be off the circle - if one goes too far right, or too far left, they end up in libertarian land - a goofy place but far from the mad crowd who fell down the rabbi(t) hole.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Old conservatives quite commonly try to resurrect the old Red Menace days.

I think it's a bizarre effort to recapture their youth.

 

[BluesLegend]

I've been banned from both left and right forums because I'm an independent. Not drinking the koolaid from either side doesn't make one a mental incompetent, but drinking the koolaid does.

Oh please from what I have seen from the vast majority of your posts you are way left of center.

Because you are way right of center?

Excuse me we are having a grown up conversation, go back to the kids table.

 

[NYcarbineer]

n

First define the terms. Start here:

Left right politics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

USA Modern History Glossary.

Political Science Glossary.

Then, when reading a thread/post evaluate their argument. If the first sentence attacks someone's intelligence, stop reading. Such a topic sentence is the work of a partisan hack who will never take the post of anyone who disagrees with her seriously.

Left wing politics = government runs your life

"There is general agreement:

that the Left includes: anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists,autonomists, communists, democratic-socialists, feminists, greens, left-libertarians,progressives, secularists, socialists, social-democrats and social-liberals.[5][6][7]

"There is also general consensous:

that the right includes: capitalists, conservatives, fascists,monarchists, nationalists,
neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, theocrats and traditionalists.[8]"

Can anything be clearer? The effort by the right wing to connect everything evil, and every liberal, progressive and policy by a Democratic President or Congress as evil is one more example of the BIG LIE and an effort by the Right to rewrite history.

A lie so transparent that only a moron like you could believe it.


Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization.
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf




Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



But you bought the propaganda like it was on sale.

That's because you're a moron.

The people of Salem, MA who murdered witches are now dead, as are most of those who believed fascism and communism were worthy foundations to form policies, later discovered as as harmful as there Salem progenitors.

Today's arch conservatives feel the same way, they believe they have found the truth, the way forward. In fact 21st Century Conservatives support exclusion and scapegoating which is the basis for all of PoliticalChic's proselytizing, and is little different than the attitude of 20th Century despots (and their followers) or 17th Century murderers. Callous conservatives are fast fading from the landscape, they only thrive, or believe they do, in the anonymity of the internet.

PC has once again proved that she cannot post a rebuttal which does not include an attack on the intelligence of her tormentor and anyone who dares to question her.

Q. How credible is one who must rely on the most basic logical fallacies.

'Tormentor'????

Your'e the king's fool.

Queen's in this case.



I defined Leftists for you earlier.

Here's the correct definition of conservatives, e.g., the Founders: a view based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Now....go ahead and prove my contention that you are incapable of learning.

Alexander Hamilton among others in the founders' era supported protectionist tariffs to promote industrialization.

They would have been appalled at the idea of 'free markets'.

 

[Wyatt earp]

n

First define the terms. Start here:

Left right politics - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

USA Modern History Glossary.

Political Science Glossary.

Then, when reading a thread/post evaluate their argument. If the first sentence attacks someone's intelligence, stop reading. Such a topic sentence is the work of a partisan hack who will never take the post of anyone who disagrees with her seriously.

Left wing politics = government runs your life

"There is general agreement:

that the Left includes: anarchists, anti-capitalists, anti-imperialists,autonomists, communists, democratic-socialists, feminists, greens, left-libertarians,progressives, secularists, socialists, social-democrats and social-liberals.[5][6][7]

"There is also general consensous:

that the right includes: capitalists, conservatives, fascists,monarchists, nationalists,
neoconservatives, neoliberals, reactionaries, right-libertarians, social-authoritarians, theocrats and traditionalists.[8]"

Can anything be clearer? The effort by the right wing to connect everything evil, and every liberal, progressive and policy by a Democratic President or Congress as evil is one more example of the BIG LIE and an effort by the Right to rewrite history.

A lie so transparent that only a moron like you could believe it.


Before WW II, the same folks who championed Progressivism, viewed fascism as a noble economic agenda, and praised Mussolini. It was the horrors of the Holocaust that required both the rapid retreat from associations with the term fascism, and the rebranding by John Dewey of progressivism as liberalism.

W.E.B.DuBois suggested that National Socialism seemed an excellent model for economic organization.
http://www.ghi-dc.org/files/publications/bu_supp/supp5/supp5_099.pdf




Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right.
WORLD Let s admit who we are Marvin Olasky July 17 2010



But you bought the propaganda like it was on sale.

That's because you're a moron.

The people of Salem, MA who murdered witches are now dead, as are most of those who believed fascism and communism were worthy foundations to form policies, later discovered as as harmful as there Salem progenitors.

Today's arch conservatives feel the same way, they believe they have found the truth, the way forward. In fact 21st Century Conservatives support exclusion and scapegoating which is the basis for all of PoliticalChic's proselytizing, and is little different than the attitude of 20th Century despots (and their followers) or 17th Century murderers. Callous conservatives are fast fading from the landscape, they only thrive, or believe they do, in the anonymity of the internet.

PC has once again proved that she cannot post a rebuttal which does not include an attack on the intelligence of her tormentor and anyone who dares to question her.

Q. How credible is one who must rely on the most basic logical fallacies.

GTFO I had you almost crying in that thread when I destroyed you on prop13 with the 1991 Pete Wilson tax

With all these posters attacking PC on here you know she is doing something right.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Old conservatives quite commonly try to resurrect the old Red Menace days.

I think it's a bizarre effort to recapture their youth.

Kinda like the "everyone's a racist' claptrap, huh?