Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

[jc456]

Hoax

 

[theHawk]

not according to the jury who heard the evidence & declared him guilty.

34x.

so no matter how much you ***** & moan & stomp yer feet, that fact will forever be on his record & thru out history ~ THAT will be taught in american history classes.

tutt tutt.

So how much time was Trump sentenced for?

 

[Rambunctious]

CONVICTED ... look that up, SB.

The Judge dismissed the case dummy... or else Trump would have faced jail or a fine... probation or something...
You can't be convicted of a felony on a dismissed case... so unless the case gets filed again Trump is not a felon....

 

[Rambunctious]

Kindly show where you read the case was dismissed.

You find it.... if the case was not dismissed Trump would have been sentenced... so you tell me how it works...
He is not a felon until he is sentenced... it makes perfect sense...

 

[Rambunctious]

You're wrong again, sir.

Trump appeals against conviction in hush-money case

His lawyers invoked presidential immunity and claimed the prosecution was politically motivated.

www.bbc.com

So what is Trump appealling if the case against him was dismissed?

That is not the NY case brought by Tish... try again loser...
see you threw so much crap at the wall you can't even keep them straight....

 

[Rambunctious]

#1 He was sentenced in his criminal case on January 10th, 2025. The conviction by the the jury was formally entered into the record and the sentence was "unconditional discharge" meaning the conviction remained, but no fine or prison time was awarded because Mr. Trump was about to be sworn in as President.

#2 His criminal case judge was Judge Merchan, not Judge Engoron. Judge Engoron was the presiding judge in the New York state civil case. Judge Kaplan (no relation to the E. Jean Carrol lawyer) presided over the E. Jean Carroll civil cases.

It helps to know basic facts.

WW

Let me know when he faces his punishment... A judge can't just say ok he is guilty but I won't sentence him...
Unless he dismisses the case...
If you are right and I'm wrong the case will pick up after Trump leaves office... don't hold your breath...
He is scott free and not a felon... sorry... but your Swalwell will be going to prison for rape...

 

[Political-Junkie]

Embellish us with proof.

The proof was submitted in the trial. If you're not aware of it, that's on you. I'm not here to try Trump again.

 

[jc456]

The proof was submitted in the trial. If you're not aware of it, that's on you. I'm not here to try Trump again.

So you didn’t see or hear of anything

 

[Political-Junkie]

The trial judge told the jury that they didn't need to be unanimous in finding Trump guilty of any of these. He told them they each had find gim guilty of one of them in order to achieve conviction. That's where the judge ran afoul of the Constitution.

Which one did they find Trump guilty by unanimous decision? The trial judge's jury instruction:

"Although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were. In determining whether the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to public office by unlawful means you may consider the following: (1) violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act otherwise known as FECA; (2) the falsification of other business records; or (3) violation of tax laws."

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"you need not be unanimous"


The jurors were specifically told by the judge that they didn't need to agree unanimously on the unlawful means. Without unanimity none of those 3 claims were proven in court. That's a violation of the 5th and 6th amendments. Therefore, they don't exist for charging and sentencing purposes. The charge reverts back to misdemeanor. That misdemeanor had run its statute of limitations, though. That dismisses the case entirely.

There was no need to find Trump guilty of those since he wasn't charged with those crimes. If I'm not mistaken, you were the one to raise the analogy of an armed robbery. Just like prosecutors only have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt a robber was armed, prosecutors in this case only had to do the same with Trump committing a crime. They didn't have to charge him and they didn't have to convict him on the underlying crimes.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Made up. Part of the hoax

Tell that to Cohen who went to jail for that.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Whoopti do

You asked for a federal charge. I gave that to you.

 

[Political-Junkie]

The Department of Justice and the FEC never accused Trump of any wrongdoing under the act. They terminated the investigation in 2021. This is where your roadblock happens.

They didn't have to. They nailed Cohen with that crime. Trump got caught falsifying business records to conceal Cohen's crime. § 175-10 applies to any crime Trump tried to conceal.

 

[candycorn]

Let me know when he faces his punishment... A judge can't just say ok he is guilty but I won't sentence him...

The jury said he was guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty. The judge--the one you guys swear was crooked, decided to set-aside the punishment phase pending the outcome of the campaign. Sounds like he gave your blob more deference than he deserved. No other guy whom the jury pronounced as guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty would have gotten a delayed sentence.

 

[Political-Junkie]

No the test is whether the candidate would have paid the expense irrespective of whether or not there was a campaign.

What do you mean, no? It says the "irrespective test" is about how funds can and cannot be used from a candidate's campaign account. I copied and pasted this from the link you gave me.

"Under the "irrespective test," personal use is any use of funds in a campaign account of a candidate."

And every example that link gave as far as what is or isn't allowed stems from a campaign account.

 

[Political-Junkie]

He didn't contest it. It he contested it and went to trial, he would have won. But he was toast on all the other charges, so he didn't want to go to trial.

The DOJ knew this and that was why they threw in the completely unrelated campaign finance violation charge - to fvck Trump.

Agreed, he didn't contest it. But he was charged with that and convicted on that. Whereas your analogy was getting charged with a crime, but being convicted on a lesser charge.

 

[Correll]

LOL.

The only idiots that want that are Trump and his cult.
Why waste all that time and aggravation and just move to Russia?
Where your daddy is going to escape to, when the Epstein files expose the corrupt pervert.
It's the Trump cults utopia.

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If you think you can keep arresting your political enemies as a campaign strategy, that is not playing democracy anymore.

That is you choosing to do Civil War instead.

 

[Rambunctious]

The jury said he was guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty. The judge--the one you guys swear was crooked, decided to set-aside the punishment phase pending the outcome of the campaign. Sounds like he gave your blob more deference than he deserved. No other guy whom the jury pronounced as guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty would have gotten a delayed sentence.

 

[Mick2]

uh-huh.

If you're appalled at the thought of a jury jury being told that they don't need to be unanimous in order to convict take it up with the low-life trial judge. They are his words, not mine.

They didn't have to. They nailed Cohen with that crime. Trump got caught falsifying business records to conceal Cohen's crime. § 175-10 applies to any crime Trump tried to conceal.

Yet, they would have if Trump committed a violation of federal law. He did not and that's why the FEC and Department of Justice tossed the case against him. Facts, man. You're struggling here. You keep hitting your head at this dead end.

As far as Cohen goes, the judge had already told the jury that they couldn't consider Cohen's plea as evidence. You keep repeating the false line that Trump was covering for Cohen. He was never covering for Cohen. You seem a tad autistic. You keep repeating the same retarded line that's not only untrue.....but wasn't part of the prosecution's claim. Lol

THIS jury had to decide, unanimously, that Trump engaged in a specific spelled out crime. The judge directed that they didn't. He said pick and choose. That's unconstitutional jury instruction. That alone invalidates the verdict on top of all the other violations.

 

[Mick2]

The jury said he was guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty. The judge--the one you guys swear was crooked, decided to set-aside the punishment phase pending the outcome of the campaign. Sounds like he gave your blob more deference than he deserved. No other guy whom the jury pronounced as guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty...guilty....guilty would have gotten a delayed sentence.

Hoax

He is our President, though!

 

[Southern Dad]

No, it isn't.

Post 1228.

"Only in America".

"A person with 34 felonies couldn't get a job at 7-11, but they CAN be a politician".

You say that a felon can’t get a job at 7-11, but in today’s world, that depends upon the felony. There are felons working at convenience stores, grocery stores, all kinds of jobs. The point is Trump won the elections. Everyone knew, even you know, that the prosecution in New York was political.