Why Do Trump Supporters Have Such A Hard Time Admitting He's A Convicted Felon?

[Marener]

Stop with your lies.

I’m sorry you’re unaware of the job of a prosecutor.

 

[Delldude]

I’m sorry you’re unaware of the job of a prosecutor.

Last I heard it was their job to present evidence to the jury so they can make a decision on guilt or innocence.

'Orangeman Bad' I don't think qualifies.

 

[Political-Junkie]

The women never proved those cases to a jury or court.

And Trump never paid them for their silence.

 

[Robert W]

Has any rich guy ever paid an NDA for personal reasons?

I believe this about Trump. He has wonderful wife and son and hated the thought his cheating would be read in public. It was not one-bit about the campaign. He saw the public clasp Cheating Clinton by his arm and lead him out of temptation.

Who can guess how many presidents cheated on their wives? How many know that FDR cheated. That Kennedy cheated. That Johnson cheated? Who believes Biden's daughter? He hooked up with Jill prior to her badgering him to marry her.

 

[Robert W]

And Trump never paid them for their silence.

Correct.

 

[Political-Junkie]

When was he in prison for this imaginary crime.

Then why pay Daniels?

 

[protectionist]

There seems to be a lot of self-denial about his convictions. Why can't his supporters admit the truth--that he was convicted on all 34 charges by a DC court.
Will this fact also follow the election result deniers path of massive resistance at first and now a comparatively few still hold out that Trump won the 2020 election?

Because selective courts & judge shopping in America have become scarcely more than political tools for Democrats.

He won it. Even people in Guatemala know that.

 

[protectionist]

Then why pay Daniels?

Smear talk can ruin people socially and personally, whether it's true or not.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Smear talk can ruin people socially and personally, whether it's true or not.

Agreed. But many women did that, so why did Trump only pay off Daniels and none of the others?

 

[Mick2]

The FEC did not say that.

The FEC chairman who was being called by the defense was going to testify to exactly that under oath. Not just a member of the Federal Elections Committee, but it's ******* CHAIRMAN. It's head man. He was going to tell the jury that there was no FEC violation nor broken law from the Daniels NDA. Judge Merchan blocked his testimony for that reason and told the defense that they couldn't ask any questions about federal election law violations to the head of the FEC. The federal body which ENFORCES federal election law. Unreal. Merchan then brazenly allowed Bragg to tell the jury that they could just consider Trump guilty of a federal election law crime in order to meet the requirement of "covering for a crime". That's f*ckingn insanity. This case is nothing more than a dead man walking. The conviction will be expunged in the appellate process. It was egregious lawfare. Probably more so than the Colorado ballot measure. The Colorado ballot measure was fast-tracked to the SCOTUS, though, because it's impact on the election was immediate. This has to wind through because Trump has already been released from any and all penalty. It has no impact.

Shit like this why Trump was re-elected by Americans, dumbass.

 

[Mick2]

Cohen was convicted of a crime regarding the NDA. So yes, there was a crime.

Cohen took a plea deal in that case to avoid 40 years in prison because he had indictments all over the place for everything. Tax evasion, lying under oath. You name it. He was never convicted, though. He plead out to to all that stuf to avoid prison time. That's not the case Bragg presented anyway. They told the jury they should just "consider Trump guilty" of a myriad of different crimes he was covering for even though he had never been indicted, let alone convicted or plead guility, to any of them.

It's meaningless anyway. Trump can contribute any amount of personal funds he wanted to his own campaign. He had no restriction. There was nothing to cover for on his behalf. Did he pay himself? Derp! Cohen could make an excessive contribution. Trump could not. If you believed there was a federal election law broken anywhere then you would have thought the testimony of the FEC's chairman was critical on the matter. Do you or don't you?

 

[Mick2]

It’s irrelevant whether the DoJ brought a case against Trump

Why didn't Biden's DOJ do it if he was guilty of federal election law then?

Hint: The DOJ and FEC knew it was bullshit like everyone else. It is f*cking relevant for that reason.

You do not know whether the lawyers investigating the case believed Trump violated the law or not.

I don't what "lawyers" you are even referring to. The FEC is the federal body that enforces federal election law. The DOJ prosecutes when the FEC refers a case to them for election law crimes. Lesser violations (ones like Clinton and Obama got) result in fines from the FEC. The FEC threw the case against Trump and the NDA babble out in 2021. Not even a fine. The former HEAD of the FEC was going to be called as a witness for the defense in this Manhattan case and tell the jury that payment wasn't a violation of federal election law. Bragg had just told the jury they could just consider Trump guilty of breaking federal election law because he said so. Voila....the "cover for any other crime". Bragg made up the other crime. The defense was prepared to land the knockout blow on that matter with the Federal Elections chairman's testimony and Bragg freaked the f*ck out. In desperation asked the judge to not allow the FEC chair be allowed to talk about federal election under oath. Brazenly Merchan agreed.

Here we are.

 

[Mick2]

Not a lawyer, but it appears Trump has lost his appeals. Do you have something more current than this?

New York judge excoriates Trump’s timing in bid to scrap hush money conviction

The Second Circuit ordered a Manhattan federal judge to reconsider his decision to keep Trump’s falsified business records case in state court instead of removing it to federal court, where Trump can seek to have it tossed post-trial on assertions of sweeping presidential immunity.

courthousenews.com

The case is still winding along in the New York state court system under appeal. That's the last update. It can only be appealed to the SCOTUS after the NY Supreme Court issues a ruling.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

There seems to be a lot of self-denial about his convictions. Why can't his supporters admit the truth--that he was convicted on all 34 charges by a DC court.
Will this fact also follow the election result deniers path of massive resistance at first and now a comparatively few still hold out that Trump won the 2020 election?

Trumps a felon but nobody told me

 

[Mick2]

Agreed. But many women did that, so why did Trump only pay off Daniels and none of the others?

Look up the term "non-disclosure" dummy. That means both parties don't talk about it. You have no idea if Trump has another NDA. They are VERY common in Washington, DC, and politicians, however.

 

[Political-Junkie]

The FEC chairman who was being called by the defense was going to testify to exactly that under oath. Not just a member of the Federal Elections Committee, but it's ******* CHAIRMAN. It's head man. He was going to tell the jury that there was no FEC violation nor broken law from the Daniels NDA. Judge Merchan blocked his testimony for that reason and told the defense that they couldn't ask any questions about federal election law violations to the head of the FEC. The federal body which ENFORCES federal election law. Unreal. Merchan then brazenly allowed Bragg to tell the jury that they could just consider Trump guilty of a federal election law crime in order to meet the requirement of "covering for a crime". That's f*ckingn insanity. This case is nothing more than a dead man walking. The conviction will be expunged in the appellate process. It was egregious lawfare. Probably more so than the Colorado ballot measure. The Colorado ballot measure was fast-tracked to the SCOTUS, though, because it's impact on the election was immediate. This has to wind through because Trump has already been released from any and all penalty. It has no impact.

Shit like this why Trump was re-elected by Americans, dumbass.

He was no longer with the FEC. He spoke for himself, not the FEC. The FEC did not say Trump did not violate any laws.

 

[Mick2]

Where’d you get your psychology degree?

Does it whip the ass of the law degree and experience that you claim you have that makes you more of an expert on Consitutional Law than our Supreme Court justices?

 

[Political-Junkie]

Look up the term "non-disclosure" dummy. That means both parties don't talk about it. You have no idea if Trump has another NDA. They are VERY common in Washington, DC, and politicians, however.

I didn't say anything about Trump not discussing the alleged affair with Daniels. I asked why he paid for her silence, but none of the others who claimed he sexually assaulted them?

 

[Mick2]

He was no longer with the FEC. He spoke for himself, not the FEC. The FEC did not say Trump did not violate any laws.

"He spoke for himself"

Yeah, and what the FEC considered illegal and not. Did the law magically change on this matter in the 3 years (or whatever it was) that he left the FEC? Yeah, think not.

The FEC either drops cases, issues penalties(like fines), or makes special criminal referral to the Justice Department. They dropped this case without so much as a fine. Did you want a current member to get and tell the jury that they FEC dropped the case years earlier without so much as a fine? Bragg certiainly didn't. Don't make yourself sound more stupid.

 

[Political-Junkie]

Cohen took a plea deal in that case to avoid 40 years in prison because he had indictments all over the place for everything. Tax evasion, lying under oath. You name it. He was never convicted, though. He plead out to to all that stuf to avoid prison time. That's not the case Bragg presented anyway. They told the jury they should just "consider Trump guilty" of a myriad of different crimes he was covering for even though he had never been indicted, let alone convicted or plead guility, to any of them.

It's meaningless anyway. Trump can contribute any amount of personal funds he wanted to his own campaign. He had no restriction. There was nothing to cover for on his behalf. Did he pay himself? Derp! Cohen could make an excessive contribution. Trump could not. If you believed there was a federal election law broken anywhere then you would have thought the testimony of the FEC's chairman was critical on the matter. Do you or don't you?

Doesn't matter what his reason was, he was convicted of a campaign finance violation. That means he acknowledged he committed a crime. Which is obvious since he made a $130,000 in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign when the legal limit was only $2,700.