Why do the God-haters persist?

[Uncensored2008]

""In God we trust"" I have seen that somewhere!!!! Lol!!!

Personally, I don't trust in your god, nor in the primitive god that Sealybobo worships.

A motto on coins compels me in no way, I have no issue with it, but it certainly is not law.

 

[Mephisto]

we tell god he is not wanted or needed,we take prayer out of schools we kill the unborn,we ok gay marrage and sexual perversion, then we cry when we find we are no longer under god's protection!!!= fools!!!

we're not a theocracy, there for religion has zero place in our laws.

""In God we trust"" I have seen that somewhere!!!! Lol!!!

n 1956, the nation was at a particularly tense time in the Cold War, and the United States wanted to distinguish itself from the Soviet Union, which promoted state atheism.[17] As a result, the 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States

Not because we believe in God, but because we wanted to be different than the Soviets.

 

[GISMYS]

we're not a theocracy, there for religion has zero place in our laws.

""In God we trust"" I have seen that somewhere!!!! Lol!!!

n 1956, the nation was at a particularly tense time in the Cold War, and the United States wanted to distinguish itself from the Soviet Union, which promoted state atheism.[17] As a result, the 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States

Not because we believe in God, but because we wanted to be different than the Soviets.

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:


The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.

 

[Mephisto]

""In God we trust"" I have seen that somewhere!!!! Lol!!!

n 1956, the nation was at a particularly tense time in the Cold War, and the United States wanted to distinguish itself from the Soviet Union, which promoted state atheism.[17] As a result, the 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States

Not because we believe in God, but because we wanted to be different than the Soviets.

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:


The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.

What does that have to do with anything?

we're not nor ever will be a religious nation. The first amendment protects us from that every happening.

 

[GISMYS]

n 1956, the nation was at a particularly tense time in the Cold War, and the United States wanted to distinguish itself from the Soviet Union, which promoted state atheism.[17] As a result, the 84th Congress passed a joint resolution "declaring IN GOD WE TRUST the national motto of the United States

Not because we believe in God, but because we wanted to be different than the Soviets.

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:


The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.

What does that have to do with anything?

we're not nor ever will be a religious nation. The first amendment protects us from that every happening.

ROFLMAO!!! IN GOD WE TRUST=ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALMIGHTY GOD says atheist are FOOLS!!!

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That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

 

[thebrucebeat]

Revelations is a book giving us a warning of the very soon years of the great tribulation =God's judgments on an evil,sin loving world and a book reveiling Jesus as King of Kings,Lord of Lords returning to earth to destroy all evil and set up His kingdom on earth.

The book is called "Revelation", not "Revelations", and you have fallen into a terrible trap set for you by a 19th century preacher who misinterpreted the book and came to America to spread the lie.
And you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

BEFORE YOU TRY TO DEBATE WHAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION SAYS YOU NEED TO READ IT,YOUR POSTS PROVE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT SAYS!!! Wise up!!!

Read it many times. Studied it with Mickey Seifert out of Duke University. Fascinating stuff.
Your capitalization doesn't make an argument, it just makes you look petulant and childish. You have much to learn about your scriptures.
The sad thing is, it's a safe bet you never will.

 

[Mephisto]

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God's intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:


The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.

What does that have to do with anything?

we're not nor ever will be a religious nation. The first amendment protects us from that every happening.

ROFLMAO!!! IN GOD WE TRUST=ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALMIGHTY GOD says atheist are FOOLS!!!

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That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

Those are phrases, not laws.

We have zero laws based on Biblical law. Now a nation like Saudi Arabia is a religious nation as the Koran is the law of the land.

last I check the bible is not the law of the land in the US.

 

[GISMYS]

Founding Father and educator Noah Webster (1758-1843) had this to say: "The moral principles and precepts contained in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.

Declaration FlickrCom.jpg So it was natural for the early Americans to turn to the Bible for guidance as to how to make civil law.

 

[sealybobo]

What does that have to do with anything?

we're not nor ever will be a religious nation. The first amendment protects us from that every happening.

ROFLMAO!!! IN GOD WE TRUST=ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALMIGHTY GOD says atheist are FOOLS!!!

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That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

Those are phrases, not laws.

We have zero laws based on Biblical law. Now a nation like Saudi Arabia is a religious nation as the Koran is the law of the land.

last I check the bible is not the law of the land in the US.

And of the 10 commandments, only 2 are laws. Don't kill and don't steal. The rest are just suggestions. Proof we are not a christian nation. Now take out in god we trust out of everything government. Not all of us agree there is a god. Only in America. It is what makes us great. Us and Europe. The Enlightenment Period.

 

[Boss]

Silly boob: These theories conclude that it was probably humans who created God, not the other way around... Science says you are wrong.

I thought we already covered this... Science doesn't "say" things, just as Religion doesn't "say" things. You may read things and interpret them as saying something, but that is you forming an opinion. Furthermore, I know of very little that Science or Religions have collectively agreed on, and certainly they haven't formed consensus on the most compelling question ever. So Science doesn't say I am wrong, YOU say that I am wrong based on what you've interpreted.

I love to read "theories conclude that it was probably" because I need to laugh a bit. Theories do not "conclude" things, they "theorize" possibility. Also, when something is concluded it is not "probably" it is concluded. You can't "conclude something is probably" because that's not conclusion, that is a speculation. Again, YOU are drawing a conclusion from a speculation.

Man has invented all kinds of incarnations of God(s), generally surrounded by created religions. Now a thinking and rational person might ask, why do humans continue to invent new incarnations of this "God" thing? All throughout human history, the evidence shows this is what we've done. This is where the philosophical principle known as Occam's Razor comes in to play. The simplest explanation is that man is connecting (or believes he's connecting) to a spiritual nature, something greater than self.

Science doesn't refute this, nor can it.

 

[GISMYS]

ROFLMAO!!! IN GOD WE TRUST=ONE NATION UNDER GOD WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALMIGHTY GOD says atheist are FOOLS!!!

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That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked heart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you???

Those are phrases, not laws.

We have zero laws based on Biblical law. Now a nation like Saudi Arabia is a religious nation as the Koran is the law of the land.

last I check the bible is not the law of the land in the US.

And of the 10 commandments, only 2 are laws. Don't kill and don't steal. The rest are just suggestions. Proof we are not a christian nation. Now take out in god we trust out of everything government. Not all of us agree there is a god. Only in America. It is what makes us great. Us and Europe. The Enlightenment Period.

TRUTH MAY HURT!!!Founding Father and educator Noah Webster (1758-1843) had this to say: "The moral principles and precepts contained in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.

Declaration FlickrCom.jpg So it was natural for the early Americans to turn to the Bible for guidance as to how to make civil law.

 

[sealybobo]

The book is called "Revelation", not "Revelations", and you have fallen into a terrible trap set for you by a 19th century preacher who misinterpreted the book and came to America to spread the lie.
And you bought it, hook, line and sinker.

BEFORE YOU TRY TO DEBATE WHAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION SAYS YOU NEED TO READ IT,YOUR POSTS PROVE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT SAYS!!! Wise up!!!

Read it many times. Studied it with Mickey Seifert out of Duke University. Fascinating stuff.
Your capitalization doesn't make an argument, it just makes you look petulant and childish. You have much to learn about your scriptures.
The sad thing is, it's a safe bet you never will.

The validity of a claim, such as the existence of god, is not governed by the intelligence of the minds which hold it. Evidence and reason are the deciding factors.

Sir Isaac Newton, one of history’s greatest scientists, was not only intensely religious but also believed in alchemical transmutation. Alchemy is, however, fully incorrect given our modern understanding of chemistry, the atom and nucleosynthysis.

The fact that an intelligent person holds an irrational belief is simply evidence that our brains are able to compartmentalise world-views and models from one another, usually in order to maintain a state of ‘ignorant bliss’ and escape the discomfort of cognitive dissonance.

 

[sealybobo]

Those are phrases, not laws.

We have zero laws based on Biblical law. Now a nation like Saudi Arabia is a religious nation as the Koran is the law of the land.

last I check the bible is not the law of the land in the US.

And of the 10 commandments, only 2 are laws. Don't kill and don't steal. The rest are just suggestions. Proof we are not a christian nation. Now take out in god we trust out of everything government. Not all of us agree there is a god. Only in America. It is what makes us great. Us and Europe. The Enlightenment Period.

TRUTH MAY HURT!!!Founding Father and educator Noah Webster (1758-1843) had this to say: "The moral principles and precepts contained in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.

Declaration FlickrCom.jpg So it was natural for the early Americans to turn to the Bible for guidance as to how to make civil law.

Big deal most Americans were Christians. Did you think they were jews, atheists or muslims that came over on the Mayflower? But a lot of them fled Europe to start their own versions of christianity and some of our founding fathers were atheists and agnostics.

One of the greatest things our founding fathers did was to seperate church and state. Does that truth hurt?

 

[GISMYS]

BEFORE YOU TRY TO DEBATE WHAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION SAYS YOU NEED TO READ IT,YOUR POSTS PROVE YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT SAYS!!! Wise up!!!

Read it many times. Studied it with Mickey Seifert out of Duke University. Fascinating stuff.
Your capitalization doesn't make an argument, it just makes you look petulant and childish. You have much to learn about your scriptures.
The sad thing is, it's a safe bet you never will.

The validity of a claim, such as the existence of god, is not governed by the intelligence of the minds which hold it. Evidence and reason are the deciding factors.

Sir Isaac Newton, one of history’s greatest scientists, was not only intensely religious but also believed in alchemical transmutation. Alchemy is, however, fully incorrect given our modern understanding of chemistry, the atom and nucleosynthysis.

The fact that an intelligent person holds an irrational belief is simply evidence that our brains are able to compartmentalise world-views and models from one another, usually in order to maintain a state of ‘ignorant bliss’ and escape the discomfort of cognitive dissonance.

IF YOU "HAD" READ Revelation you would have seen the prophecy there recorded over 2000 years ago proves it is true.

 

[Uncensored2008]

And of the 10 commandments, only 2 are laws. Don't kill and don't steal. The rest are just suggestions. Proof we are not a christian nation. Now take out in god we trust out of everything government. Not all of us agree there is a god. Only in America. It is what makes us great. Us and Europe. The Enlightenment Period.

You need to cut your dick off and burn it, as sacrifice to Gaia for your carbon sins. Gaia demands a burnt offering.

IF you do not, we will be punished with melting ice caps and rising oceans - so say your sacred shamans, so says the fuckwad nutjob IPCC bible.

Do it now bobo, you not only hold your own fate, but the fate of the entire planet in your hands. The shamans are in consensus that YOU have committed carbon sins, and only SACRIFICE can appease the volcano god.

Cut your dick off and burn it, or the world ends...

 

[sealybobo]

Silly boob: These theories conclude that it was probably humans who created God, not the other way around... Science says you are wrong.

I thought we already covered this... Science doesn't "say" things, just as Religion doesn't "say" things. You may read things and interpret them as saying something, but that is you forming an opinion. Furthermore, I know of very little that Science or Religions have collectively agreed on, and certainly they haven't formed consensus on the most compelling question ever. So Science doesn't say I am wrong, YOU say that I am wrong based on what you've interpreted.

I love to read "theories conclude that it was probably" because I need to laugh a bit. Theories do not "conclude" things, they "theorize" possibility. Also, when something is concluded it is not "probably" it is concluded. You can't "conclude something is probably" because that's not conclusion, that is a speculation. Again, YOU are drawing a conclusion from a speculation.

Man has invented all kinds of incarnations of God(s), generally surrounded by created religions. Now a thinking and rational person might ask, why do humans continue to invent new incarnations of this "God" thing? All throughout human history, the evidence shows this is what we've done. This is where the philosophical principle known as Occam's Razor comes in to play. The simplest explanation is that man is connecting (or believes he's connecting) to a spiritual nature, something greater than self.

Science doesn't refute this, nor can it.

I've already shown you science has figured out exactly when/how/why the human brain came up with religion. And yes, it can be concluded that PROBABLY there is no god. Based on all the evidence. Of course we can't say we know everything so that gives you a 0000.0001% chance of being right.

A particular standard of evidence is required to prove any claim. Since god’s existence is an extraordinary claim, perhaps the most extraordinary claim, proving it requires equally extraordinary evidence.

The standard of evidence required to prove a god’s existence is immediately more than any personal anecdote, witness testimony, ancient book or reported miracle – none of which can be considered extraordinarily reliable. The human mind is also highly susceptible to being fooled and even fooling itself. One could be suffering from an hallucination or a form of undiagnosed schizophrenia, hysteria or psychosis, ruling out even our own senses as reliable evidence gathering mechanisms in this case. As strange as it sounds, misunderstood aliens might even be attempting to interact with us using extremely advanced technology. In fact, reality itself could be a computer simulation which we unknowingly inhabit.

Every conceivable argument, every imaginable piece of evidence for god is not without some fatal flaw or more likely explanation which precludes it from being used as definitive proof.

God is what it would take to convince an atheist/scientist. An omniscient god would know the exact standard of evidence required to convince any atheist/scientist of its existence and, being omnipotent, it would also be able to immediately produce this evidence. If it wanted to, a god could conceivably change the brain chemistry of any individual in order to compel them to believe. It could even restructure the entire universe in such a way as to make non-belief impossible.

In short, a god actually proving its own existence is what would convince any atheist/scientist of said god’s existence.

 

[GISMYS]

HOW CAN YOU BE SO IGNORANT???====That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked h eart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you??? GOD HAS GIVEN YOU THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND LIFE AS PROOF HE IS REAL,WHAT KIND OF FOOL NEEDS MORE PROOF?????????????

 

[sealybobo]

And of the 10 commandments, only 2 are laws. Don't kill and don't steal. The rest are just suggestions. Proof we are not a christian nation. Now take out in god we trust out of everything government. Not all of us agree there is a god. Only in America. It is what makes us great. Us and Europe. The Enlightenment Period.

You need to cut your dick off and burn it, as sacrifice to Gaia for your carbon sins. Gaia demands a burnt offering.

IF you do not, we will be punished with melting ice caps and rising oceans - so say your sacred shamans, so says the fuckwad nutjob IPCC bible.

Do it now bobo, you not only hold your own fate, but the fate of the entire planet in your hands. The shamans are in consensus that YOU have committed carbon sins, and only SACRIFICE can appease the volcano god.

Cut your dick off and burn it, or the world ends...

This is like the second time you've sent this to me. You are weird. What do you believe?

“I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” – Carl Sagan

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain

 

[sealybobo]

HOW CAN YOU BE SO IGNORANT???====That man is a fool who says to himself, “There is no God!” Anyone who talks like that is warped and evil and cannot really be a good person at all.Psalm 14:1===Only a fool would say to himself, “There is no God.” And why does he say it? Because of his wicked h eart, his dark and evil deeds. His life is corroded with sin. PSALM 53:1 and you??? GOD HAS GIVEN YOU THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AND LIFE AS PROOF HE IS REAL,WHAT KIND OF FOOL NEEDS MORE PROOF?????????????

God told me if you repeat that quote one more time you are going to hell and he and satin are going to run a train on your ass.

When I became convinced that the universe was natural, that all the ghosts and gods were myths, there entered into my brain, into my soul, into every drop of my blood, the sense, the feeling, the joy of freedom. The walls of my prison crumbled and fell. The dungeon was flooded with light and all the bolts and bars and manacles turned to dust. I was no longer a servant, a serf, or a slave. There was for me no master in all the wide world, not even in infinite space.

I was free to think. Free to express my thoughts, free to live in my own ideal. Free to live for myself and those I loved. Free to use all my faculties, all my senses. Free to spread imagination’s wings, free to investigate, to guess, and dream and hope. Free to judge and determine for myself. Free to reject all ignorant and cruel creeds, all the inspired books that savages have produced, and the barbarous legends of the past. Free from sanctified mistakes and “holy” lies. Free from the fear of eternal pain, free from the winged monsters of the night. Free from devils, ghosts and gods. For the first time I was free.

There were no prohibited places in all of the realm of thought. No error, no space where fancy could not spread her painted wings. No chains for my limbs. No lashes for my back. No flames for my flesh. No Master’s frown or threat, no following in another’s steps. No need to bow or cringe or crawl, or utter lying words. I was free; I stood erect and fearlessly, joyously faced all worlds.

My heart was filled with gratitude, with thankfulness, and went out in love to all the heros, the thinkers who gave their lives for liberty of hand and brain, for the freedom of labor and thought to those who fell on the fierce fields of war. To those who died in dungeons, bound in chains, to those by fire consumed, to all the wise, the good, the brave of every land whose thoughts and deeds have given freedom to the sons of men. And then, I vowed to grasp the torch that they held, and hold it high, That light might conquer darkness still.

-Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)

 

[GISMYS]

And of the 10 commandments, only 2 are laws. Don't kill and don't steal. The rest are just suggestions. Proof we are not a christian nation. Now take out in god we trust out of everything government. Not all of us agree there is a god. Only in America. It is what makes us great. Us and Europe. The Enlightenment Period.

You need to cut your dick off and burn it, as sacrifice to Gaia for your carbon sins. Gaia demands a burnt offering.

IF you do not, we will be punished with melting ice caps and rising oceans - so say your sacred shamans, so says the fuckwad nutjob IPCC bible.

Do it now bobo, you not only hold your own fate, but the fate of the entire planet in your hands. The shamans are in consensus that YOU have committed carbon sins, and only SACRIFICE can appease the volcano god.

Cut your dick off and burn it, or the world ends...

This is like the second time you've sent this to me. You are weird. What do you believe?

“I would love to believe that when I die I will live again, that some thinking, feeling, remembering part of me will continue. But much as I want to believe that, and despite the ancient and worldwide cultural traditions that assert an afterlife, I know of nothing to suggest that it is more than wishful thinking. The world is so exquisite with so much love and moral depth, that there is no reason to deceive ourselves with pretty stories for which there’s little good evidence. Far better it seems to me, in our vulnerability, is to look death in the eye and to be grateful every day for the brief but magnificent opportunity that life provides.” – Carl Sagan

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” - Mark Twain

YOU QUOTE SILLY LITTLE MAN WHILE I QUOTE ALMIGHTY GOD'S WORD !!! DUH!!!who should we believe????