Zone1 Why do some people hate the Jews?

[dblack]

Hatred of Jews needs to be understood psychologically because here is no rational reason for it. Jews are good people. One reason is religious bigotry. Fortunately, that is fading in the West. Christian conservatives think the existence of Israel is a sign that the Second Coming of Christ. Therefore, they support Israel. Support for Israel easily segues into admiration of Jews.

Secular Jew hate is caused by resentment over the fact that most Jew are intelligent, successful, and prosperous. Jew haters have spent their lives watching Jews get better grades, better jobs, and better incomes. Now they fear being fired and replaced with more intelligent, better paid Jews, who will perform their jobs faster, better, and with less effort.

Resentment against Jewish intelligent is even a factor at elite universities. Some Gentiles on the student body there resent the fact that there are so many Jews there.

I am a Gentile, by the way.

Interestingly, I think one reason is that they don't proselytize. It gives off the impression that they're too good for the rest of us, that we don't qualify for their religion. That's silly of course, but people think silly things.

 

[rosends]

I thought the article covered most of the bases.

But it did not refute what I said.

 

[Woodznutz]

But it did not refute what I said.

It supported both of our positions.

 

[rosends]

It supported both of our positions.

No, it didn't. Try again.

 

[Woodznutz]

No, it didn't. Try again.

Did you read the article? Many Jews aren't happy about converts.

 

[rosends]

Did you read the article? Many Jews aren't happy about converts.

Yes. The concern is whether to encourage conversion, not to think less of converts.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes. The concern is whether to encourage conversion, not to think less of converts.

A distinction without a difference.

 

[Meriweather]

Yes. The concern is whether to encourage conversion, not to think less of converts.

A distinction without a difference.

No, it is not a distinction without a difference. The reality is that when newcomers join a community, they bring their own backgrounds with them, because these backgrounds are a part of self. This can be seen in some Old Testament stories where people who did join the Jewish community could not seem to part with a favored idol or practice. Their entire history is Jews being a people set apart so that other practices and beliefs do not creep in.

A true concern is whether someone saying they wish to convert to Judaism is actually a predator hoping to convert a Jew to their own non-Jewish faith. Now, there are those who seriously wish to convert to Judaism and they can find those who are willing to help them through this conversion. Simply stated, we should all understand their caution before ever taking this important step. If we cannot understand the need for caution, maybe an independent study of Jewish history and their faith is necessary before trying again.

 

[rosends]

A distinction without a difference.

there is a HUGE difference. Discouraging one from converting is different from celebrating someone who has converted. If you can't see that, then no one can help you.

 

[BreezeWood]

there is a HUGE difference. Discouraging one from converting is different from celebrating someone who has converted. If you can't see that, then no one can help you.

- how can there be conversion to a matriarchal religion ... discouraging, is that a euphemism.

 

[rosends]

- how can there be conversion to a matriarchal religion ... discouraging, is that a euphemism.

How? But cause it is built into the system. And "discouraging" is a precise term. Not a euphemism. Have you ever actually spoken to a convert to Judaism? I have. Have you ever been to a conversion? I have.

 

[the watcher]

Do we have to hate all pit bulls or just the ones that bite our kids?

 

[BreezeWood]

How? But cause it is built into the system. And "discouraging" is a precise term. Not a euphemism. Have you ever actually spoken to a convert to Judaism? I have. Have you ever been to a conversion? I have.

all's well and good, might try answering the question as well - its a euphemism for an impossibility even for jews who have no matriarch, as who's mother really counts.

 

[GLASNOST]

Let me put this in simpler terms. People who believe in Christianity are (more or less) nothing but Jews who got tired of waiting for the Messiah to arrive so they dreamed up a fresh bushel basket full of hokus-pokus and claimed Jesus is the Messiah and that the Jews are envious of the "real" Messiah in their midst.

But to answer the question of why people hate Jews (let's be honest here, we are actually talking about Christians hating Jews - NOT the Muslims) then I can sum it up easily by saying that Christians have intentionally misinterpreted the scriptures to mean that it was the Jews who murdered Christ. I tried to explain this to a cousin of mine (a Jew-hater through and through) but he wouldn’t listen. He kept saying, “He washed his hands! He washed his hands!” Yes, that was his main argument. He really said that over and over again. “He washed his hands!” What an idiot. MS took him a couple of years later so he probably knows the truth now.

 

[rosends]

all's well and good, might try answering the question as well - its a euphemism for an impossibility even for jews who have no matriarch, as who's mother really counts.

No it isn't. Conversion is an established part of Judaism. Just because you don't know that doesn't change thousands of years of codified law.

 

[GLASNOST]

Do we have to hate all pit bulls or just the ones that bite our kids?

Should we walk down all dark alley-ways to know which ones are dangerous or just play it safe and stick to the well-lit streets?

 

[Woodznutz]

there is a HUGE difference. Discouraging one from converting is different from celebrating someone who has converted. If you can't see that, then no one can help you.

I mean there is little difference between a Jew who disfavors conversion and one who disfavors a proselyte.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

A distinction without a difference.

no it isnt the jews dont think converts are second class jews at all