Why do some people get stimulus checks while others only pay for it?

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Couldn't you make the point this is worse than Welfare? How about socialism by leveling the playing fields affecting the poor and middle class only? That is unless you're dumb enough to believe the very wealthy pay for something. They sure as fuck don't, only the middle class and poor do. Consider this:

Person A earned 30K in 2018. They rec'd a big raise in 2019, and earned 50K. What an improvement and the future looks bright, and they're also eligible for a COVID entitlement just cuz.

Person B earned 70K in 2019, so they're not eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person C earns more on unemployment than they did working, and received $3K more income for the year 2019. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person D
only likes to work part-time @ $50 an hour. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

All will pay principle & interest & more (e.g., inflation & higher taxes) for "entitlements" of which only three receive benefit.

Also, which of those four scenarios deserves a COVID entitlement and why?
Did you have the same issue with the cares act, that was limited to people making less than $75,000?

What about the $2 trillion cost of Dotard's tax cuts?
I see, point your finger at the other
There has to be some sort of cut off based on income.
No, there doesn't.
YES, for hypocrisy.

If wing nuts claim to be "conservative" then be one when your party is in power too.
That statement proves, as does their actions "conservative" is only a campaign slogan.
 

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Have you EVER had a JOB?
You are paying people not to work

and many of them wont return to work till the helicopter money runs out
Yes, that is what unemployment is for, they worked and paid taxes, that's what it's for.
You really haven't had a job before.
well..unemployment is actually insurance payed by the employer, not the employee

but yes, it is for when people get unemployed through no fault of their own
 

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Couldn't you make the point this is worse than Welfare? How about socialism by leveling the playing fields affecting the poor and middle class only? That is unless you're dumb enough to believe the very wealthy pay for something. They sure as fuck don't, only the middle class and poor do. Consider this:

Person A earned 30K in 2018. They rec'd a big raise in 2019, and earned 50K. What an improvement and the future looks bright, and they're also eligible for a COVID entitlement just cuz.

Person B earned 70K in 2019, so they're not eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person C earns more on unemployment than they did working, and received $3K more income for the year 2019. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person D
only likes to work part-time @ $50 an hour. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

All will pay principle & interest & more (e.g., inflation & higher taxes) for "entitlements" of which only three receive benefit.

Also, which of those four scenarios deserves a COVID entitlement and why?
Because both parties have been trying to destroy the Middle Class for some time now.

Marx said it was necessary.
I agree that Marx said destruction of Middle Class was necessary. Many Socialist models subscribe to the same notion. But, if, as you say, BOTH parties are trying to destroy the Middle Class, I would say Democrat policies do so on a comparatively larger scale. Under Democrat tax plans, the Middle Class keeps LESS of its paycheck; paying more in taxes despite Democrat promises that Middle Class earners won't pay more in taxes. Look at Obama-Biden promise of 2008 that anyone making less than $250,000, would not pay more in taxes? Didn't happen. Contrast that with the Trump tax reform that yielded an outcome of Middle Class keeping more of its paycheck. How about healthcare policies of Democrats? The Middle Class pays more. Energy policies? Democrats' push for elimination of fossil fuels in the absence of viable alternatives to at least sustain the economy of fossil fuels results in the Middle Class paying more in gasoline prices. Egregious regulation and taxes aimed at Small Business definitely hurts the Middle Class as nearly most small business owners and all small business employees are Middle Class.

Comparatively, how is the Republican Party hurting the Middle Class?
The GOP has done virtually nothing other than complain as the US has turned into a Left wing utopia. Put one man in there who actually tries to do something, like build a few feet to the border wall or appoint people to the bench who don't do acid while studying Marx philosophy in their spare time, and you would have thought the world was coming to an end.
 

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Yes, that is what unemployment is for, they worked and paid taxes, that's what it's for.
Its for an emergency that has come to an end

what you are doing is giving people a sample of a very addictive drug
 

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I need you to give a reference to that in the bill itself. Not from any site other than the gov site.
the amendment preventing payment to prisoners was voted down

so no prohibition exists for me to point to
 

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I need you to give a reference to that in the bill itself. Not from any site other than the gov site.
the amendment preventing payment to prisoners was voted down

so no prohibition exists for me to point to
Then it's going to be left to the States where it belongs. Incarcerated Felons don't have rights and don't file taxes.
 
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Couldn't you make the point this is worse than Welfare? How about socialism by leveling the playing fields affecting the poor and middle class only? That is unless you're dumb enough to believe the very wealthy pay for something. They sure as fuck don't, only the middle class and poor do. Consider this:

Person A earned 30K in 2018. They rec'd a big raise in 2019, and earned 50K. What an improvement and the future looks bright, and they're also eligible for a COVID entitlement just cuz.

Person B earned 70K in 2019, so they're not eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person C earns more on unemployment than they did working, and received $3K more income for the year 2019. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person D
only likes to work part-time @ $50 an hour. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

All will pay principle & interest & more (e.g., inflation & higher taxes) for "entitlements" of which only three receive benefit.

Also, which of those four scenarios deserves a COVID entitlement and why?
OMG!!!!

You mean that Congress is NOT going to review the financial history of each and every American and have a separate debate and vote for each of us!!!

How fucking LAZY can Congress get!!!
You're PROG right? Yeah, I know you guys are deep thinkers, but I can come up with simple formulas without your input thanks, and hopefully those college indoctrinated or well-schooled can too.
 
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Couldn't you make the point this is worse than Welfare? How about socialism by leveling the playing fields affecting the poor and middle class only? That is unless you're dumb enough to believe the very wealthy pay for something. They sure as fuck don't, only the middle class and poor do. Consider this:

Person A earned 30K in 2018. They rec'd a big raise in 2019, and earned 50K. What an improvement and the future looks bright, and they're also eligible for a COVID entitlement just cuz.

Person B earned 70K in 2019, so they're not eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person C earns more on unemployment than they did working, and received $3K more income for the year 2019. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person D
only likes to work part-time @ $50 an hour. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

All will pay principle & interest & more (e.g., inflation & higher taxes) for "entitlements" of which only three receive benefit.

Also, which of those four scenarios deserves a COVID entitlement and why?
What was Trump doing while all this was going on. He had it in his power to do
something about it, yes? No meowing by you then, yes?
WRONG PROG, don't mistake me for a PROG. In the case of TDS, Trump had to go along with something or he's not re-elected, that's called life. You so easily forget Trump hammered the Demonicrats because their "relief bills" are always stacked with self-serving BS, and for entertaining fucked up PROG-ideologies, such as how to reverse your genitals and why it should be taught in school.

I am for:

A. Temporary small business assistance for only those impacted (INCOME analysis 2018-2020) by COVID, because many were shut down or slowed primarily because of PROGs. Truth of the matter is communists do not desire small business, just as they prefer poor & wealthy class.

B. Temporary person assist. with a cap (INCOME analysis 2018-2020). NONE of the examples in the OP can justify a COVID entitlement, which they or someone else will pay back 10 fold. PROGS are foolish. NOTE: Person A was supposed to read 2019 & 2020, not 2018-2019

C. Temporary large business assistance for only those impacted by COVID (INCOME analysis 2018-2020). Assistance can come in many forms. USA companies only, the rest can fuck off.

D. Temporary $ for playing the COVID game for medicine & vaccines. Temporary kick to Medicaid & Medicare.

E. Temporary added tax on big business & investors profiting highly because of COVID, hello Netflix (OBAMA) & Amazon.

There's your fucking relief package, so fuck off with the other BS, such as research into why you have balls in a foreign country the Xiden people have investments in.

Or we could just open the fuck up, a little temporary assistance and then fuck off already.
Trump has business dealings in other countries. Does Biden?
You make things so simple that I wonder why those who have knowledge of such things and have done their research may not agree with your assessment. Oh well.
Trump has business dealings in other countries. Does Biden? :yes_text12:
 

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With 80,000 infected and 1500 dying daily... it has NOT come to an end yet
No disease has come to an end

the chinese virus will be with us for generations if not longer
 

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Incarcerated Felons don't have rights and don't file taxes.
all they need is an SSN and felons can get that


Generally, you’re eligible to claim the recovery rebate credit if, in 2020, you:

  • Were a U.S. citizen or U.S. resident alien;
  • Can’t be claimed as a dependent on another person’s tax return; and
  • Have a Social Security number valid for employment that’s issued before the due date of your 2020 tax return (including extensions)
 

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Couldn't you make the point this is worse than Welfare? How about socialism by leveling the playing fields affecting the poor and middle class only? That is unless you're dumb enough to believe the very wealthy pay for something. They sure as fuck don't, only the middle class and poor do. Consider this:

Person A earned 30K in 2018. They rec'd a big raise in 2019, and earned 50K. What an improvement and the future looks bright, and they're also eligible for a COVID entitlement just cuz.

Person B earned 70K in 2019, so they're not eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person C earns more on unemployment than they did working, and received $3K more income for the year 2019. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person D
only likes to work part-time @ $50 an hour. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

All will pay principle & interest & more (e.g., inflation & higher taxes) for "entitlements" of which only three receive benefit.

Also, which of those four scenarios deserves a COVID entitlement and why?
From each according to their ability to each according to their need
 

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Couldn't you make the point this is worse than Welfare? How about socialism by leveling the playing fields affecting the poor and middle class only? That is unless you're dumb enough to believe the very wealthy pay for something. They sure as fuck don't, only the middle class and poor do. Consider this:

Person A earned 30K in 2018. They rec'd a big raise in 2019, and earned 50K. What an improvement and the future looks bright, and they're also eligible for a COVID entitlement just cuz.

Person B earned 70K in 2019, so they're not eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person C earns more on unemployment than they did working, and received $3K more income for the year 2019. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

Person D
only likes to work part-time @ $50 an hour. Eligible for a COVID entitlement.

All will pay principle & interest & more (e.g., inflation & higher taxes) for "entitlements" of which only three receive benefit.

Also, which of those four scenarios deserves a COVID entitlement and why?
What was Trump doing while all this was going on. He had it in his power to do
something about it, yes? No meowing by you then, yes?
WRONG PROG, don't mistake me for a PROG. In the case of TDS, Trump had to go along with something or he's not re-elected, that's called life. You so easily forget Trump hammered the Demonicrats because their "relief bills" are always stacked with self-serving BS, and for entertaining fucked up PROG-ideologies, such as how to reverse your genitals and why it should be taught in school.

I am for:

A. Temporary small business assistance for only those impacted (INCOME analysis 2018-2020) by COVID, because many were shut down or slowed primarily because of PROGs. Truth of the matter is communists do not desire small business, just as they prefer poor & wealthy class.

B. Temporary person assist. with a cap (INCOME analysis 2018-2020). NONE of the examples in the OP can justify a COVID entitlement, which they or someone else will pay back 10 fold. PROGS are foolish. NOTE: Person A was supposed to read 2019 & 2020, not 2018-2019

C. Temporary large business assistance for only those impacted by COVID (INCOME analysis 2018-2020). Assistance can come in many forms. USA companies only, the rest can fuck off.

D. Temporary $ for playing the COVID game for medicine & vaccines. Temporary kick to Medicaid & Medicare.

E. Temporary added tax on big business & investors profiting highly because of COVID, hello Netflix (OBAMA) & Amazon.

There's your fucking relief package, so fuck off with the other BS, such as research into why you have balls in a foreign country the Xiden people have investments in.

Or we could just open the fuck up, a little temporary assistance and then fuck off already.
Trump has business dealings in other countries. Does Biden?
You make things so simple that I wonder why those who have knowledge of such things and have done their research may not agree with your assessment. Oh well.
Trump has business dealings in other countries. Does Biden? :yes_text12:
What kind of business, and should we have him arrested? Sounds guilty, yes?
 

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Gotta have $$$ to spend.
You earn the dollars by getting a job and working
How true. However, the idea is to put money into the economy to help prevent it from tanking.
It is also necessary due to the covid situation and because people cannot feed their children if they are unable to work.
 
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