Why do so many here want the Obama boat to sink???

[veritas]

If I had voted for Obama, I would expect him to explain to me, his supporter, why he found it appropriate to hire a man who has been convicted of and jailed for a crime; and who had manty times admitted he was one in support of communism.

He wasn't convicted, the charges were dropped and he wasn't a communist. He supported socialist green utopianism. .....which sounds nice and agrarian to me, like a farmer's coop......

 

[Annie]

I gave Obama the benefit of doubt in January, though I believed all he had proclaimed belief in way before the election; meaning I agreed with what I believed his real agenda zero. He has lived up to my take. I want all of his policies to fail, with the exemption of agreeing with one that has passed, minor credit reform.

I don't want cap & trade. Certainly don't want his big gov't health care plan.

 

[Intense]

Van Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Early activism
In 1992, during a protest of the Rodney King verdict in San Francisco, police officers illegally arrested Jones and hundreds of other participants in a peaceful protest march[8]. Jones, at the time a law student at Yale Law School, participated as a volunteer, legal monitor. The District Attorney later dropped the charges against Jones. The unlawfully arrested protesters, including Jones, won a small legal settlement[8][9]. The incident deepened Jones's "disaffection with the system and accelerated his political radicalization"[8].

 

[Intense]

That was a common tactic, arresting support people, disrupting the logistics.

 

[HUGGY]

Surprising as it is, there are some people who are so biased that they refuse to watch Fox News. That's why so many believe that Obama is a moderate. And that Congress can pay its bills with fairy dust.

I don't care about the latest lost blond bimbo. I have never read a "tabloid" standing in line at the market or anywhere else. Fox is not a news source for anyone with a grown up curiosity. It is infotainment. Rupert Murdoch spent 100 million of his own money before Fox made a dime. He has managed to dumb down enough people over the last 15 years to finally pay the freight. Goody for him. If I found myself watching Fox and participating in the destruction of our nation I would hope I had enough gray matter left to do the right thing and end my life.

 

[code1211]

how is he cleaning up his mess? the debt is getting larger. we're still in Iraq and afghanistan is getting worse.

The conditions, that required financial support as prescribed by almost everyone with knowledge on the subject, that became clear about two years ago were a direct result of the amount and quality of regulation in the financial market.

There were two choices available at first then Bush narrowed the options as he set the mechanics in motion with the first TARP package.

The damage to our financial sector was estimated to be upwards of thirty trillion dollars from the speculators and those that folded bad debt so deep into the accumulated mortgages for resale that there was no fix possible.

We will probably spend ten - twenty percent of that to keep the financial sector intact with most of that being repaid back to the government. No one seems to notice that the bulk of the bailouts are loans that have already been paid back to a large degree.

So let me ask you a serious question. Since you believe Obamma is wasting tax payers money with bail outs.. Can you enlighten us on how you envision our world today if no action had been taken and the whole banking/investment sector imploded? And would that be Obammas fault also if he did nothing?

I have no issue with the tarp initiative. The country business owners needed access to credit and such was not available.

I DO, however, have an issue with bailouts of companies like GM.

Not to worry. It was not GM that was bailed out. It was the UAW. Quid pro quo. Just another in the long and quickly passed series of bribes, paybacks and payoffs one might expect of a Chicago political machine spawn.

If you don't listen to what Obama says and only judge his next action by his previous actions, suddenly it is all clear. The only thing that is confusing is his words. To avoid confusion, I've stopped listening to him altogether except to listen for the newest misdirection.

If the government had done nothing to stimulate the economy, and that's what they did except for the cash for clunkers, it would have taken between 12 and 18 months for the economy to bounce back. We're at about month 10 right now.

 

[rightwinger]

If the government had done nothing to stimulate the economy, and that's what they did except for the cash for clunkers, it would have taken between 12 and 18 months for the economy to bounce back. We're at about month 10 right now

Interesting premise....the old "it would have fixed itself anyway"
What evidence do you have to support your clam?
Would the economy have fixed itself if the banks had failed? GM and Chrysler went bankrupt?
The market was in a state of panic, the Government stepped in to stop the panic and allow the economy to right itself

 

[Intense]

I think We should give Fannie, and Freddie, and ACORN, and Fuzzy Bunnies, and Wind Mills, more money. Throw Grand Ma and Grand Pa under the Bus. Lets give the kids $50.00 a day, all of them, just for being. Lets give out free Gym Memberships to Everyone Too. Movie Passes, Everyone should be able to go to the movies, Right? Ain't I right, now? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on The National Debt? Proletarians Unite!

 

[rightwinger]

I think We should give Fannie, and Freddie, and ACORN, and Fuzzy Bunnies, and Wind Mills, more money. Throw Grand Ma and Grand Pa under the Bus. Lets give the kids $50.00 a day, all of them, just for being. Lets give out free Gym Memberships to Everyone Too. Movie Passes, Everyone should be able to go to the movies, Right? Ain't I right, now? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on The National Debt? Proletarians Unite!

Whew!
That sounds like alot of work. Why don't you just make it easy and cut taxes on the rich?

 

[garyd]

First off it isn't Obama's damn boat it's ours and we'd like him to quit drilling holes in the bottom of it.

2nd since the beginnings of the industrial age the average length of a depression when the government left well enough alone has been around 9 months. When the government has tried to help it has taken more than two years with long periods of anemic growth and high unelmployment for even longer.

 

[Annie]

Just wondering if you all understand how lame you sound?

 

[actsnoblemartin]

every president has critics

Many claim that Obama is leading us into socialism.

But where were these same people when Bush was leading us into totalitarianism ???

Bush had plenty of critics. Do you not remember the 22% approval ratings?

 

[skookerasbil]

Real US unemployment rate at 16 pct: Fed official

Fed Official says, "Real Unemployment rate about 16%!!!" ( click linky)


Kinda makes the title of this thread a little more than hysterical. This administration is going down the tubes at an epic pace........even I cant believe its happening this quickly.

But I gotta admit it..........Im fcukking giddy to say the least!!! In fact, I dont even have to post up as many gay MSPAINT Photobucket classics these days as the news does all the work for me!!!

And to think.............lefties in America thought they were looking at maybe a generation of smooth sailing just 8 short months ago.

How times have changed s0ns............how times have changed

 

[Dr Grump]

And to think.............lefties in America thought they were looking at maybe a generation of smooth sailing just 8 short months ago.:

Only in neocon whackjob dreams...

 

[Dr Grump]

Just wondering if you all understand how lame you sound?

I get that same feeling all over every time I read one of your pathetic posts...

 

[Meister]

I think We should give Fannie, and Freddie, and ACORN, and Fuzzy Bunnies, and Wind Mills, more money. Throw Grand Ma and Grand Pa under the Bus. Lets give the kids $50.00 a day, all of them, just for being. Lets give out free Gym Memberships to Everyone Too. Movie Passes, Everyone should be able to go to the movies, Right? Ain't I right, now? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on The National Debt? Proletarians Unite!

Whew!
That sounds like alot of work. Why don't you just make it easy and cut taxes on the rich?

Why don't you get a job where you can provide for yourself and your family. Then you wouldn't have to rely on the rich to cover the difference for your sorry ass.

 

[oreo]

If the government had done nothing to stimulate the economy, and that's what they did except for the cash for clunkers, it would have taken between 12 and 18 months for the economy to bounce back. We're at about month 10 right now

Interesting premise....the old "it would have fixed itself anyway"
What evidence do you have to support your clam?
Would the economy have fixed itself if the banks had failed? GM and Chrysler went bankrupt?
The market was in a state of panic, the Government stepped in to stop the panic and allow the economy to right itself

This economy has always righted itself. The 787 billion economic stimulus that really isn't a stimulus is a total failure. It is full of political pay-offs--greasy-wasteful pork--& has money in it for a few road & bridge workers. Obama failed to realise that this is not the 1930's. What used to take thousands of men to build a bridge, dam or road & been cut down to a few heavy equipment operators.

Massive government spending DOES not create private sector job growth. The only thing that is expanding in leaps & bounds is the federal government.

 

[oreo]

Real US unemployment rate at 16 pct: Fed official

Fed Official says, "Real Unemployment rate about 16%!!!" ( click linky)


Kinda makes the title of this thread a little more than hysterical. This administration is going down the tubes at an epic pace........even I cant believe its happening this quickly.

But I gotta admit it..........Im fcukking giddy to say the least!!! In fact, I dont even have to post up as many gay MSPAINT Photobucket classics these days as the news does all the work for me!!!

And to think.............lefties in America thought they were looking at maybe a generation of smooth sailing just 8 short months ago.

How times have changed s0ns............how times have changed

Ditto--I just heard the same. They casually forget to count the people who have given up on trying to find a job--& or those that have had their hours cut back.

 

[oreo]

I think We should give Fannie, and Freddie, and ACORN, and Fuzzy Bunnies, and Wind Mills, more money. Throw Grand Ma and Grand Pa under the Bus. Lets give the kids $50.00 a day, all of them, just for being. Lets give out free Gym Memberships to Everyone Too. Movie Passes, Everyone should be able to go to the movies, Right? Ain't I right, now? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on the National Debt? What is the Interest on The National Debt? Proletarians Unite!

Prior to yesterday's figures of an additional 2 TRILLION to the national debt--we now have to assume

That a college student just entering the work force will be paying MORE than 120K in interest alone on this debt--a 40 year old's liability will be MORE that 138K in interest alone on this debt.

I guess that's the hope & change they voted for.

The hope is gone & the only thing they'll have left is "change."

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

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