Why do Republicans bash socialism - when it's all around them?

[Rustic]

I have noticed that several right-wing posters seem to be suggesting that nothing in the United States is actually "socialism". That's interesting...

Lol
Washington redskin,
All socialist entitlement programs are, hence their failure

 

[Rustic]

Because Capitalism pays for Socialism.

How do Norway and Sweden pay for their socialist programs?

Capitalism. Further, how do the expenditures of Sweden and Norway compare to US?

Citizens are treated more fairly.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.

In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”

In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.

Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Lol
Do you really think it matters at this point? The federal government began fucking country over in the Woodrow Wilson years, and completely fucked over the country in the FDR years with socialist entitlement programs thus passing the point of no return.

 

[keepitreal]

Curious, why do you bash capitalism when it's all around you?

Dare I name some examples?

Your clothes? You paid for them using the capitalist method.
The PC or Laptop you post your garbage on? You paid for it via the capitalist method.
Your car? You more than likely paid for it via the capitalist method.
The food you eat? Paid for by the capitalist method.

You buy, the government taxes, and the seller profits.

Note that all of the examples in your OP are things instituted by government, not the free market. The free market prefers capitalism, for a reason.

Who's bashing capitalism? I engage in it everyday - just like I do socialism. America is a blend of capitalism and socialism - democratic socialism.

Then why don't we see you posting threads highlighting the perks of capitalism then? Or how it has improved America?

Why? Because it's not democratic socialism you're after.

Unfettered/unregulated capitalism is as destructive as unfettered/unregulated socialism.

If sport franchises dropped Nike as a sponsor
and everyday consumers refused to buy their products
and merchants refused to carry their products
until they built manufacturing plants in the United States
and created jobs with decent wages and benefits....

You can believe they would do just that!

Consumers allow bad business practices

People who can’t afford the children they have
shouldn’t be having more kids
It’s not the taxpayers responsibility
to provide people with what they need
so those people could have the things they want

Government dependency breeds irresponsibility

Your thread is bs like always

 

[Lakhota]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

 

[Papageorgio]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?

 

[Lesh]

Right...because there's no corruption in capitalism

Straw man argument....Nobody said such a thing.

But capitalists don't have the power to wave a gun in your face and force you to use their product.

They have that power and more importantly they can drive you into the ground economically...they can poison you...they can kill you with greed ...if allowed to

 

[Lesh]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?

The fact that you don't understand what he said or pretend not to makes it no less accurate

 

[danielpalos]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.

Sounds horrible, huh?

Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...

1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.


MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.


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Because Capitalism pays for Socialism.

How do Norway and Sweden pay for their socialist programs?

Capitalism. Further, how do the expenditures of Sweden and Norway compare to US?

Citizens are treated more fairly.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.

In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”

In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.

Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

You did not address how Norway or Sweden’s expenditures compare to US. What is their immigration compared to US? What is their rank and role in the global market?

The right wing refuses to cut spending on their right wing fantasy. They prefer the general warfare to the general welfare. Just ask them to actually pay for their alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?

ad hominems are merely fallacies. you need valid and legal arguments.

 

[Rustic]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?

I don’t mind Washington Redskin he got into the fucking fire water again

 

[danielpalos]

How do Norway and Sweden pay for their socialist programs?

Capitalism. Further, how do the expenditures of Sweden and Norway compare to US?

Citizens are treated more fairly.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.

In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”

In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.

Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[Rustic]

Right...because there's no corruption in capitalism

Straw man argument....Nobody said such a thing.

But capitalists don't have the power to wave a gun in your face and force you to use their product.

They have that power and more importantly they can drive you into the ground economically...they can poison you...they can kill you with greed ...if allowed to

Lol
Says a socialist… You do realize There was...

 

[Rustic]

Capitalism. Further, how do the expenditures of Sweden and Norway compare to US?

Citizens are treated more fairly.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.

In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”

In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.

Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

Yep,
Socialist entitlement programs dominate this country’s debt and spending... Nothing else is even close

 

[Oddball]

Right...because there's no corruption in capitalism

Straw man argument....Nobody said such a thing.

But capitalists don't have the power to wave a gun in your face and force you to use their product.

They have that power and more importantly they can drive you into the ground economically...they can poison you...they can kill you with greed ...if allowed to

Another dilettante who has NFI what he's blabbering about...It is only The State that can use physical force to compel anyone do do something...In fact, compulsion is the only tool available to them.

We could stuff you, danielpalos, antontoo, and Dokrhota in a room, and witness a black hole of economic illiteracy collapse upon itself.

 

[Thinker101]

Capitalism. Further, how do the expenditures of Sweden and Norway compare to US?

Citizens are treated more fairly.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.

In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”

In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.

Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.

Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela

A common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.

Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist

Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

...dumbass.
Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama

 

[Oddball]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

The most moronic of all brain droppings on this thread.

Real capitalists know the enemy of capitalism is The State.

You know less than nothing of what you're prattling about.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Ask Republicans. They're the ones doing most of the spending - while they bash socialism and cut taxes for the rich.

Then you should be THANKING Republicans for cutting taxes for the rich.....since so many are powerful LEFTISTS like Mark Zuckerberg, Beyonce and JayZ, Bill Gates, Wilmot Reed Hastings Jr, Barak and Michele OBAMA, Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warrenand all the other "filthy rich" Democrats who preach how YOU should be happy broke.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.
Sounds horrible, huh?

Does this prove the OP is a moron or what?

She has no clue what Socialism is. NONE. Typical.

Yet she believes she is wise above everyone else on the topic. Sad. Too many like her.

 

[Papageorgio]

Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.

You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?

The fact that you don't understand what he said or pretend not to makes it no less accurate

I understood what he said, I am challenging his statement. You do realize the chump never backs up what he claims, he just tosses shit out there.

 

[Oddball]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.
Sounds horrible, huh?

Does this prove the OP is a moron or what?

She has no clue what Socialism is. NONE. Typical.

There has been a confluence of both economic and political illiteracy on this thread....Not coincidentally, nearly all of it resides on the port side.