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Our welfare clause is General not Common. All of our social policies should be Pareto Optimal.Yep,U.S. National Debt Clock : Real TimeA common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.Citizens are treated more fairly.
Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela
Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.
In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”
In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.
Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.
Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela
Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist
Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
Socialist entitlement programs dominate this country’s debt and spending... Nothing else is even close
The both of them do that.The fact that you don't understand what he said or pretend not to makes it no less accurateCapitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?
I understood what he said, I am challenging his statement. You do realize the chump never backs up what he claims, he just tosses shit out there.
ad hominems are merely fallacies. you need valid and legal arguments.Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?
didn't feel the Recession you like to ignore?U.S. National Debt Clock : Real TimeA common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.Citizens are treated more fairly.
Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela
Venezuela and Norway both have abnormally large oil sectors, nationalized oil reserves, and nationalized oil companies.
In Norway, the surplus from the oil boom has been used to build a $1 trillion collectively-owned capital fund with the return on that capital going to finance general government spending, including the country’s large welfare state. This capital fund is even colorfully described by the Norwegian government as “the people’s money, owned by everyone, divided equally and for generations to come.”
In Venezuela, the government appears to have used the surplus primarily to finance current social spending. This means that, on the thing most remarkable about the two countries, Norway comes away as more socialist. Norway uses its oil sector to build an enormous stock of collectively-owned capital, which then goes to fund social spending while Venezuela skips the middle step. Insofar as socialism is about collective ownership of the means of production, an objective observer would have to declare Norway the more socialist of the two.
Norway’s edge on Venezuela goes beyond the different ways the two countries have handled their nationalized oil sectors. Although Venezuelan data is a bit hard to come by, it is hard to imagine based on what information we do have that the Venezuelan government owns one-third of the country’s domestic corporate equity like Norway does. And the Venezuelan government for sure does not own 60 percent of the national wealth like Norway does. Even on indicators that are not strictly socialist but that people often conflate with socialism — such as government taxes, revenue and expenditure — Norway dominates.
Norway Is Far More Socialist Than Venezuela
Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist
Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
...dumbass.
Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama
i did. talk is all the right wing wing does. any words will work, for them.ad hominems are merely fallacies. you need valid and legal arguments.Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?
Lead by example or shut up.
didn't feel the Recession you like to ignore?U.S. National Debt Clock : Real TimeA common response from the left is that socialism (or democratic socialism) works just fine in Sweden, Norway, and Denmark. It is certainly true that Sweden, Norway, Finland, and Denmark are notable economic successes. What is false is that these countries are particularly socialist.
Sorry Bernie Bros But Nordic Countries Are Not Socialist
Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
...dumbass.
Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama
lol. Venezuela is a target of US sanctions and destabilization. Government solves all problems for the right wing.To the OP.....
We don't have Socialism in the US. And until we have a dramatic failure of the Constitution, we won't.
But if you want a clear example of the effects of Socialism, Venezuela is only a few hours flight away.
I STRONGLY recommend you go there and experience what REAL Socialism is like.
(Their Constitution was trampled, btw)
Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics.didn't feel the Recession you like to ignore?U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
Another example of socialism bailing out capitalism. Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
...dumbass.
Here's how much debt the US government added under President Obama
Bad news sparky, you can't buy your way out of a recession. Dumbass.
Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.
Sounds horrible, huh?
Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...
1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.
2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.
3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.
4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?
5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.
MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.
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Everything you list are services we pay for in the form of taxes.
Obviously, you do not know the definition of Socialism. Allow me:
I have taken the liberty to highlight a couple of items below for your convenience.
socialism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
QED
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · social democracy · laborism · Marxism · Leninism · Marxism–Leninism · neo-Marxism · Trotskyism · Maoism
antonyms:
conservatism- policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · social democracy · laborism · Marxism · Leninism · Marxism–Leninism · neo-Marxism · Trotskyism · Maoism
antonyms:
conservatism- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
Well, by these definitions, the cop-op where I get my community water and sewer is socialism, and it works just fine, thank you.
Government is social-ism, by definition.Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.
Sounds horrible, huh?
Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...
1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.
2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.
3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.
4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?
5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.
MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.
Copyright. Link Each "Copy & Paste" to It's Source. Only paste a small to medium section of the material.
Everything you list are services we pay for in the form of taxes.
Obviously, you do not know the definition of Socialism. Allow me:
I have taken the liberty to highlight a couple of items below for your convenience.
socialism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
QED
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · social democracy · laborism · Marxism · Leninism · Marxism–Leninism · neo-Marxism · Trotskyism · Maoism
antonyms:
conservatism- policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms:
leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · social democracy · laborism · Marxism · Leninism · Marxism–Leninism · neo-Marxism · Trotskyism · Maoism
antonyms:
conservatism- (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
Well, by these definitions, the cop-op where I get my community water and sewer is socialism, and it works just fine, thank you.
Okay, so you have proven yet again that reading comprehension is not your thing.
Agreed.actully its more simple then thatBreak society down to its origin and basics.The individual can only create their own pie with the cooperation and protection of the society. Let any of these individualists try to make it without society, without the protection of contracts, without the protection of police, without a sound currency.Labor is finite, with limited supply.Another ignorant liberal that thinks wealth is finite that one having more wealth causes another to have less
your ignorance discredits you from having any intelligent conversation on economics
go learn something then you can come back and join the discussion till then you are just embarrassing your self
So how can wealth be any different?
When It Comes to Wealth Creation, There Is No Pie
As usual, the problem is that leftists are borderline illiterate and are throwing around words without any idea what they mean.
What is the benefit of society in its origin?
A truce. Nonviolence.
A general understanding that people will not try to kill each other over food/resources/territory.etc., but cooperate for their mutual and individual benefit.
An individual can do ALL KINDS OF SHIT without society. The only reason for society is NONVIOLENCE. Otherwise, like all other animals, humans will fight each other for food/resources/territory/etc.
You have taken society for granted and assumed that individuals owe each other the duty of a living. WRONG. When the benefits of society are outweighed by the burdens (from you commies) the violence will resume.
You know nothing.
.
humans mass together the same reason herd animals do so because there is safety in numbers
Government is social-ism, by definition.
I have noticed that several right-wing posters seem to be suggesting that nothing in the United States is actually "socialism". That's interesting...
Trillions in tax cuts for billionaires is the ultimate form of socialism. Talk about “free stuff“. To be able to use the infrastructure of an entire country and just rape money from that country. It’s so anti-American and such a disgrace.
Unfortunately, this is who the Republican Party has become.
Some people are better off not drinking 'fire water'. Ask Pocahontas.I have noticed that several right-wing posters seem to be suggesting that nothing in the United States is actually "socialism". That's interesting...
I have noticed that there are several posts you read and totally misunderstood.
Government is what governs the social order of any society.Government is social-ism, by definition.
Then why don't you go find that fucking definition and post it?
i did. talk is all the right wing wing does. any words will work, for them.ad hominems are merely fallacies. you need valid and legal arguments.Capitalists love to privatize profits and socialize losses.
You are clueless, do you just sit around all day and think of stupid things to say or does it come natural to you?
Lead by example or shut up.
isn't right wing fantasy wonderful, in a vacuum of special pleading.Trillions in tax cuts for billionaires is the ultimate form of socialism. Talk about “free stuff“. To be able to use the infrastructure of an entire country and just rape money from that country. It’s so anti-American and such a disgrace.
Unfortunately, this is who the Republican Party has become.
Haha...this is the greatest shit ever....
LefTard Logic:
“TAKING / STEALING less of someone’s own shit is SOCIALISM.”
Haha...you dumb, pathetic lowlifes are fucking fascinating.
Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability.
Sounds horrible, huh?
Well I hate to be the one to tell you, but Socialism, which you have been told to fear all your life, is responsible for all this...
1. The Military/Defense - The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.
2. Highways/Roads - Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one's use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany's autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That's right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.
3. Public Libraries - Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.
4. Police - Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?
5. Fire Dept. - Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn't pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn't pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people's houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don't take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.
MORE: 75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America
What the hell is wrong with a little socialism? We live with it. It's all around us. It has made our lives better. It's called Democratic Socialism.
Copyright. Link Each "Copy & Paste" to It's Source. Only paste a small to medium section of the material.
