Why do liberals not believe that Hillary transmitted classified docs on her private server?

[K9Buck]

I'm not sure the law is unconstitutional for failing to specify there must be an intent to disseminate secret information or not, because there is an intent element in simply pushing the send button for the elec message. But, you are right that Comey declined to prosecute supposedly because Hill lacked specific intent to disclose secret matl.

It's against the law to transmit or receive classified material on a private server, period.

 

[AntonToo]

I'm not sure the law is unconstitutional for failing to specify there must be an intent to disseminate secret information or not, because there is an intent element in simply pushing the send button for the elec message. But, you are right that Comey declined to prosecute supposedly because Hill lacked specific intent to disclose secret matl.

It's against the law to transmit or receive classified material on a private server, period.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Both Powel and Rice used private, unapproved, email servers (gmail and aol)

 

[K9Buck]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

 

[K9Buck]

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Both Powel and Rice used private servers (gmail and aol)

Did they transmit or receive classified materials on them?

 

[AntonToo]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

 

[iceberg]

Bullshit, no one was ever prosecuted for mishandling classified information without intent, let alone gone to prison.

General Petreus was caught RED HANDED taking highly classified documents home so his journalist lover could have a go at them. Clear mishandling with ill intent and all he got was a probation.

Prosecuting Hillary under a statute without intent would be UNPRECEDENTED.

US Navy sailor jailed for taking photos of classified areas of nuclear submarine

so, showing your children what you used to do is now intent to commit a crime?

Dummy, he was charged under statute that requires intent.

Prosecutor believed this sailor was conducting espionage.

And he lied about it, twice. Plus it was top secret Defense stuff, and he was in the military which has stronger rules than for a civilian like Hillary and her staff...

Same with Petreaus, he lied about it to the FBI, twice as well.... and he was only charged with a misdemeanor....not even a felony....

not about to argue petreaus knew better. he did. the sailor on the other hand likely knew better but i do not believe his intent was to do more than what he said - show his family and kids what he did for a living.

given how the clinton family LOVES to play wordsmith games, i fail to believe she didn't know what she was doing in the same manner, just didn't care and believed like many - they are above the law and it would never come back to them.

none of us on either side should be above the law and we should not defend those who break the law for the biggest reason being - they're on our side and we don't want to give into the other side.

guess that's (2) reasons.

You don't need carefully constructed panoramic view of the nuclear engine room (and nothing else) and then dispose of your phone to show what you do to your family.

Prosecutor believed there was intent and that's why he brought charges. If there was just a selfie in the engine room sailor would just get slap on the wrist.

great. then you don't need to remove headings of classification to know know you're sending classified info, or that sending classified info to non secure aliases is wrong.

In email, Hillary Clinton tells aide to send talking points "nonsecure" - CBS News
Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

 

[iceberg]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

whatever she felt like cause she thought no one would ever care. having to follow process is something she just didn't care to do. i don't think she meant to be a huge leak in the system, no. but i do believe 100% she knew what she was doing and just found the laws inconvenient to follow and didn't allow her the privacy she wanted.

 

[Wry Catcher]

This is just common knowledge and, yet, there are countless liberals here and elsewhere that claim it never happened. James Comey testified to Congress that she transmitted and received classified material on her private server. Are the liberals that deny this fact just astoundingly ignorant or are they just liars?

"Common knowledge"? Maybe in your circles. Funny how you accept Comey's words when they confirm your bias, and deny his words when Comey's words expose Trump as obstructing justice.

Why is that?

 

[K9Buck]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

Hillary intended to disregard U.S. law and do whatever she felt like doing. The likelihood that the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, etc. were hacked into her server and were reading classified material was of zero importance to her.

Why didn't she just comply with the law and use government servers and government email accounts?

 

[K9Buck]

Funny how you accept Comey's words when they confirm your bias, and deny his words when Comey's words expose Trump as obstructing justice. Why is that?

Where did I make such a denial?

 

[AntonToo]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

whatever she felt like cause she thought no one would ever care.

Well that sure sounds like lack of any specific ill intent.

She wanted her own server out of convenience and political paranoia (Republicans were after her for a long time now after all), but that's not criminal intent. She was not out to distribute classified materials, not out to harm this country. At their core this is what the laws governing classified materials are there for and why a case was not brought against her.

 

[K9Buck]

Funny how you accept Comey's words when they confirm your bias...

Are you implying that Comey either lied or was mistaken about Hillary transmitting classified material?

 

[iceberg]

This is just common knowledge and, yet, there are countless liberals here and elsewhere that claim it never happened. James Comey testified to Congress that she transmitted and received classified material on her private server. Are the liberals that deny this fact just astoundingly ignorant or are they just liars?

"Common knowledge"? Maybe in your circles. Funny how you accept Comey's words when they confirm your bias, and deny his words when Comey's words expose Trump as obstructing justice.

Why is that?

cause comey openly and often talked out both sides of his mouth and people use whichever supports their views.

everyone has done that at one point so kinda a silly argument to call someone out for.

 

[K9Buck]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

It's irrelevant. She knowingly and intentionally circumvented the system, broke the law and potentially exposed classified material to foreign intelligence. And she got a pass. Nobody else would have gotten a pass. And you're cool with it because she has a "D" by her name.

 

[AntonToo]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

It's irrelevant.

Thats nice, but a Republican FBI director strongly disagreed with your assessment.

Sorry, game over. The matter is settled, time to move on with your life.

 

[K9Buck]

She wanted her own server out of convenience...

In violation of federal law. She knowingly and intentionally did so without regard.

By the way, she likely wanted her own server for her pay-for-play schemes that she was running with the Clinton Foundation, but that's another thread.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's both sad and comical to watch liberals shill the delusional message that Hillary didn't know what she was doing and didn't intend to do anything wrong. If Hillary isn't corrupt, then nobody has ever been corrupt.

What do YOU think she intended to do?

Hillary intended to disregard U.S. law and do whatever she felt like doing. The likelihood that the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, etc. were hacked into her server and were reading classified material was of zero importance to her.

Why didn't she just comply with the law and use government servers and government email accounts?

She didn't, that's a fact. She apologized and admitted to that fact. There was no Mens rea asserted or implied in that behavior, thus no indictment even after the witch hunt lead by Rep. Issa.

 

[AntonToo]

She wanted her own server out of convenience...

In violation of federal law.

Again, you don't know what you are talking about. There was no such law and both of Hillary's DoS predecessors used private email servers.

 

[K9Buck]

Sorry, game over.

Now you're grasping for straws.

The FBI Director acknowledged that Hillary broke the law but then said he wouldn't recommend an indictment because he didn't believe Hillary had any malicious intention. Hillary should have been prosecuted. Anyone else would have been prosecuted.

 

[Wry Catcher]

She wanted her own server out of convenience...

In violation of federal law. She knowingly and intentionally did so without regard.

By the way, she likely wanted her own server for her pay-for-play schemes that she was running with the Clinton Foundation, but that's another thread.

It is properly place in a thread on Conspiracy Theories, since there is no evidence to prove she "likely wanted her own server for her pay-for-play schemes".