Mac-7
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Everything you say is a half truth or an outright lieThe Trump administration has been a day late and a dollar short in just about everything they have done or should have done. Starting with the 2018 firing of the Pandemic Response Team, cutting funds from the budget used by the CDC to track international epidemics which congress restored, the administration has shown they had no interest whatsoever in preparing for a pandemic. For 3 years the administration failed to bring the supply of N95 respirators even up to a minimum level for fighting a regional epidemic much less a pandemic. Even after there was no doubt that the nation faced a pandemic and the virus was already in the US, the administration still failed to act. In fact, they didn't order respirators or other supplies until the middle of March. Almost everything that possibly could go wrong with the creation, distribution, and regulation of the test kits went wrong.For confirmed trump haters sureSorry, but it already is.I know libs are trying to make this trump’s katrina but it wont fly outside of lib la la landThe only way to avoid wrecking the economy when a virus like covid 19 hits is to get ahead of the game which means ordering test kits before the first known US infection, not two months later and having response teams investigating the first and every infection, testing, tracking, and quarantining. If that doesn't happen then the country will be faced with mitigation and that means serious economic consequences.If the choice is only extremes - i.e. no FEMA or only FEMA with no state and local responsibility that is your world not mineSo your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizensIt is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFlyIt's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.What you say is true up to a pointA State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local governmentIn have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)
"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."
Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?
new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA
at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also
so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci
Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.
states can do little during an emergency
but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment
but states like new york said why bother?
uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes
Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.
States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.
not so
Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens
the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared
but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not
we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago
but consider this: if you put all your faith in the feds and they are asleep at the wheel such as NIH and CDC was this time you are pretty much screwed.
you will wreck the economy and the nations health at the same time
Stopping an epidemic is not rock science. It takes advanced planning, adequate resources, and a leadership that understands the importance of a rapid response. Almost 1 month after we learned about Covid 19, the White House formed a response task force to determine the proper response and a division of responsibilities between the states and the various parts of the federal government.
If Trump was President during Katrina.... " Its a thunderstorm. Low risk." "A shower, It will rain & then leave."
As for after the storm. look at Puertoi Rico. A total fuck up.
Trump can 't even get testing to where it needs to be. Now he says we don't need it.
but everyone else knows his staff is doing a good job
So what did the administration do during the two months when the virus could have been stopped. Committees were organized to determine what to do, a Chinese travel ban that was not well enforced and riddled with loopholes was put in place in January. For 8 weeks, the president and other members of his staff, carried the message to the public that we were just dealing with the flu. After 10 weeks, when the whole world was aware that American had an epidemic to deal with did the president decide to respond. However, by then there were active cases in 4 states and it was estimated that there were exposures to the virus in a dozen more. America was becoming a text book case in how not to handle a nationwide epidemic.
if you get all your info from the lib news media that may explain your misinformation
for instance trump did not fire the pandemic team
what he did was reorganize the effort and consolidate their positions
the pandemic team never ceased to exist though they seem to have been watching more porn than preparing for the next chinese disease