Why didn't Obama replenish the N95 mask national supply that was depleted after the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 ?

[RealDave]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So you assfucks actually think that Red States have enough supplies so they will need no supplies from FEMA? Really? Why do we have to serd them shit all the times after a Hurricane? Why do they come begging then?

 

[jc456]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So you assfucks actually think that Red States have enough supplies so they will need no supplies from FEMA? Really? Why do we have to serd them shit all the times after a Hurricane? Why do they come begging then?

it's amazing the ass licking to the left by you all. hly sht.

 

[jc456]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

exactly, help. that's it. help. it doesn't do their job for them. you are merely confused as usual.

 

[jc456]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So you assfucks actually think that Red States have enough supplies so they will need no supplies from FEMA? Really? Why do we have to serd them shit all the times after a Hurricane? Why do they come begging then?

the hurricane never landed. you didn't get the news?

 

[Mac-7]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So you assfucks actually think that Red States have enough supplies so they will need no supplies from FEMA? Really? Why do we have to serd them shit all the times after a Hurricane? Why do they come begging then?

Within the red states are deep blue cities run by liberal democrats

local hospitals, counties and cities have the most responsibility for the health of their people

that said, the governors in every state, plus the federal government, are the next line of defense after liberals in the population centers fail

 

[Flopper]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?

 

[Flopper]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

exactly, help. that's it. help. it doesn't do their job for them. you are merely confused as usual.

Maybe you haven't noticed but it's it's our hospitals, our fire, and police departments that are on the front line actually doing the job of saving lives. If you want our hospitals to be prepared to have all resources needed to handle any kind of natural or man made disaster, then you should be prepared for some huge health costs.

Planning for a pandemic is the job of the US government, not every hospital in the US. State and local goverment and hospitals should certainly play a major part, but it the federal government that must take the lead because it is not just a state or local disaster but a national and international disaster requiring a national response. Blaming the federal government's lack of planning and preparedness on our local hospitals will never fly.

 

[Mac-7]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?

If the choice is only extremes - i.e. no FEMA or only FEMA with no state and local responsibility that is your world not mine

but consider this: if you put all your faith in the feds and they are asleep at the wheel such as NIH and CDC was this time you are pretty much screwed.

you will wreck the economy and the nations health at the same time

 

[jc456]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?

so what are the quantities the CDC and FEMA are supposed to hold? let's hear this.

 

[Wapasha]

Whatever that means. You people always have the same response to truth.

He was pointing out your aversion to the truth.

 

[Wapasha]

If the choice is only extremes - i.e. no FEMA or only FEMA with no state and local responsibility that is your world not mine

but consider this: if you put all your faith in the feds and they are asleep at the wheel such as NIH and CDC was this time you are pretty much screwed.

The US Federal Health agencies lack of response to COVID-19, was a decades long, ongoing systemic failure, which is the exact reason why this nation should never allow the feds to screw over our nation with a federally run universal health care.

 

[Wapasha]

and also Dr Fausi, et al and Trump brushed them aside.

Trump did not brush them aside. Remember, back on Jan 26th Dr Fauci was telling the US public that COVID-19 was not something to worry about, and it was of a very low risk to the US. Five days later Trump declared the virus a national public health emergency, banned flights from China, and instituted quarantine procedures for incoming travelers.

So stop with this crap that Trump "brushed them aside." Trump was being called a racist, a xenophobe and that he was overreacting, by the same Trump-haters who claim he didn't act soon enough,or that he brushed aside the recommendations by the CDC and NIH medical experts.

“This is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States should be worried about right now,” Dr. Fauci told Newsmax’s Greg Kelly on January 21.

yes he said that at a time when there were no cases in the US.

Yes Trump restricted travel in Jan and it was not a ban. He suspended foreigners who had been in China in the last 14 days from entering the country but that did not stop American who had visited China from coming back into the US. There were still active flights to and from China.

The first death reported outside of China was in Feb 2.

Trump statements

• “I think the virus is going to be — it’s going to be fine.” — February 10, 2020.
• “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low. … When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. That’s a pretty good job we’ve done.” — February 26, 2020.
• “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” — February 28, 2020.
• “This is their new hoax.” — February 28, 2020

IN late Feb he was calling it a hoax, I guess he gave up on his favorite line fake news.

• “So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!” — March 9, 2020.
• “This is a very contagious virus. It’s incredible. But it’s something that we have tremendous control over.” — March 15, 2020.

Trump was brushing it aside up until Mar 15th

and then his tune changed - I have always now that this panademic was a real threat

That is the problem with Trump in a nutshell

Fauci started to mention Panademic in Feb 17 whereas Trump was still under the impression that it was a hoax.

The timeline is there and it does not lie

Saying that Fauci made a statement in Jan at the beginning as being meaningful is looking for a scapegoat or someone to blame other than Trump. As far as I know Fauci never called this a hoax.

Everybody with a working brain cell know the facts, know the truth....AND IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING SINCE THE BEGINING OF THIS TRUMP PRESIDENCY....REPUBLICANS HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL WITH THEIR NAMES ON IT!!

So typical of the empty-headed, no attempt at justifying their point, just a hate-filled rant. The empty barrel makes the most noise.

 

[Wapasha]

On Jan 21, the first Covid 19 case was discovered in the US which was a several weeks after the WHO warned the US of a pandemic. 2 days later the 2nd case was reported. The US response was to wait and see. On Jan 29, the Corna Virus Task Force was formed to monitor the situation. The task force continued to monitor the situation over the next 30 days as the virus spread to 5 states. On March 4th the president declared a national emergency which marked the end of the containment phase which was a complete failure due to a lack of attention and no plan to deal with a pandemic.

And yet:

1) January 14th, the World Health Organization told the world that the coronavirus was not contagious between humans

2) Between January 22nd-26th Dr. Fauci was going on public media in the US, telling Americans we should not be worried about COVID-19, and that is was a very low risk to the USA.

3) Five days later, Trump declares a National Public Heath Emergency, bans all flights from China, and institutes quarantine procedures for all incoming travelers showing any signs of the virus.

 

[Wapasha]

and also Dr Fausi, et al and Trump brushed them aside.

Trump did not brush them aside. Remember, back on Jan 26th Dr Fauci was telling the US public that COVID-19 was not something to worry about, and it was of a very low risk to the US. Five days later Trump declared the virus a national public health emergency, banned flights from China, and instituted quarantine procedures for incoming travelers.

So stop with this crap that Trump "brushed them aside." Trump was being called a racist, a xenophobe and that he was overreacting, by the same Trump-haters who claim he didn't act soon enough,or that he brushed aside the recommendations by the CDC and NIH medical experts.

Fuck off, Hew was downplaying the Virus well in to March.

By the time he banned some travel out of China, the Airlines had already drastically cut their number of flights.

Trump was down playing the virus well into March.

Trump: "Low Risk. It will disappear, we have 15 cases soon to be. zero!!!!"

When Democrats pushed for more action. Trump called their concern a HOAX>

Maybe Trump was listening to Nancy:

Yet blamed Trump’s early “denial” for spread of coronavirus
In Late February, Nancy Pelosi Encouraged Large Groups to Congregate in Chinatown

In Late February, Nancy Pelosi Encouraged Large Groups to Congregate in Chinatown

In Late February, Nancy Pelosi Encouraged Large Groups to Congregate in Chinatown

canadafreepress.com

And yet she accuses Trump of not doing anything, while she goes around undermining him.

 

[Wapasha]

Trump has been lousy in han

I see how that works, absolutely! Both boys failed in this effort. However, The World Health Organization announced in
December that a pandemic was on its way and Trump did nothing except to blame the Democrats for a hoax.....for 2 months. He then appoints two hacks to head our effort, instead of medical experts and scientists who have the experience.
He is only making things worse with his blather and people like you are reveling in his bad behavior, as usual.

And as late as January 14th, that same World Health Organization told the world that the coronavirus was not contagious between humans. And I guess that too is just mean old 0range man's fault?

Trump denied that there was a problem and blamed the Dems for a "hoax". It is his fault for not turning it over to the medical and science communities. Instead, he installed 2 inexperienced hacks to head up the response. Amateur night in Dixie.

Trump will indeed take the fault in all this and no amount of spin is gonna change the facts..the man blew it and is still trying to distance himself from this mess and its not going to work

Fact check: Did the Obama administration deplete the federal stockpile of N95 masks?

The claim: The Obama administration used and did not replenish the nation’s emergency stockpile of medical supplies, including N95 masks
Our rating: True
We rate this claim TRUE because it is supported by our research. There is no indication that the Obama administration took significant steps to replenish the supply of N95 masks in the Strategic National Stockpile after it was depleted from repeated crises. Calls for action came from experts at the time concerned for the country’s ability to respond to future serious pandemics. Such recommendations were, for whatever reason, not heeded.

Fact check: Did the Obama administration deplete the federal stockpile of N95 masks?

During the presidency of Barack Obama, the national stockpile was seriously taxed as the administration addressed multiple crises over eight years.

www.usatoday.com

My point is that we had a systemic failure by our federal agencies, which went on for almost two decades, where they refused to replenish our national stockpile with ventilators and PPE. I doubt Obama knew about it, and even if he'd have asked, our federal workers would have just lied to him, claiming they had it all under control.

 

[Wapasha]

Saying that Fauci made a statement in Jan at the beginning as being meaningful is looking for a scapegoat or someone to blame other than Trump. As far as I know Fauci never called this a hoax.

If you look at Fauci's statements about the virus, you'll see that Trump is simply mirroring them. Week by week, and now day by day, the CDC , the NIH and the coronavirus task force are learning more about this virus, and their assessments change. So do not blame Trump for parroting Fauci. no, this is not an attack on Fauci, the entire world was saying the same things, everyone was trying to determine how this virus was going to affect us.

You know what, they still don't know lot about this virus. We have not even been able to test 1% of the US population, so we do not know crucial details about this virus, not yet.

 

[Wapasha]

and also Dr Fausi, et al and Trump brushed them aside.

Trump did not brush them aside. Remember, back on Jan 26th Dr Fauci was telling the US public that COVID-19 was not something to worry about, and it was of a very low risk to the US. Five days later Trump declared the virus a national public health emergency, banned flights from China, and instituted quarantine procedures for incoming travelers.

So stop with this crap that Trump "brushed them aside." Trump was being called a racist, a xenophobe and that he was overreacting, by the same Trump-haters who claim he didn't act soon enough,or that he brushed aside the recommendations by the CDC and NIH medical experts.

Fuck off, Hew was downplaying the Virus well in to March.

By the time he banned some travel out of China, the Airlines had already drastically cut their number of flights.

Trump was down playing the virus well into March.

Trump: "Low Risk. It will disappear, we have 15 cases soon to be. zero!!!!"

When Democrats pushed for more action. Trump called their concern a HOAX>

Trump experts, were downplaying the virus.

 

[Flopper]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?

If the choice is only extremes - i.e. no FEMA or only FEMA with no state and local responsibility that is your world not mine

but consider this: if you put all your faith in the feds and they are asleep at the wheel such as NIH and CDC was this time you are pretty much screwed.

you will wreck the economy and the nations health at the same time

The only way to avoid wrecking the economy when a virus like covid 19 hits is to get ahead of the game which means ordering test kits before the first known US infection, not two months later and having response teams investigating the first and every infection, testing, tracking, and quarantining. If that doesn't happen then the country will be faced with mitigation and that means serious economic consequences.

Stopping an epidemic is not rock science. It takes advanced planning, adequate resources, and a leadership that understands the importance of a rapid response. Almost 1 month after we learned about Covid 19, the White House formed a response task force to determine the proper response and a division of responsibilities between the states and the various parts of the federal government.

 

[Mac-7]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?

If the choice is only extremes - i.e. no FEMA or only FEMA with no state and local responsibility that is your world not mine

but consider this: if you put all your faith in the feds and they are asleep at the wheel such as NIH and CDC was this time you are pretty much screwed.

you will wreck the economy and the nations health at the same time

The only way to avoid wrecking the economy when a virus like covid 19 hits is to get ahead of the game which means ordering test kits before the first known US infection, not two months later and having response teams investigating the first and every infection, testing, tracking, and quarantining. If that doesn't happen then the country will be faced with mitigation and that means serious economic consequences.

Stopping an epidemic is not rock science. It takes advanced planning, adequate resources, and a leadership that understands the importance of a rapid response. Almost 1 month after we learned about Covid 19, the White House formed a response task force to determine the proper response and a division of responsibilities between the states and the various parts of the federal government.

I know libs are trying to make this trump’s katrina but it wont fly outside of lib la la land

 

[RealDave]

But of course the left and their media will never do any significant reporting on this.
(hint to our board libs: Trump was not president in 2009, nor 2010, nor 2011, nor 2012, nor 2013, nor 2014, nor 2015, nor 2016)

"the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply."

Hospital Workers Make Masks From Office Supplies Amid U.S. Shortage

‘We’re not getting new supplies and our stores are almost depleted.’

www.bloomberg.com

In have an idea. Why don't you lying assfucks show me where Congress funded them and Obama said no.

Furthermore, your fat asssed orange buddy has been President for 3/4 of a complete 4 year term. At what point is anything is his fault? He was briefed. We had a Pandemic office in the NSC. What the fuck happened to it?

The primary responsibility for PPE, ventilators and other medical equipment belongs to the states and local government

new york failed to maintain m95 masks and other necessary supplies and now coumo is doing CYA

at the same time the federal government should have replenished its stocks also

so there is blame to go around including Dr Fauci

A State cannot muster the resources that the federal government can to deal with any disaster that might occur for several reasons. First being states can not create money. The federal government has the power to create whatever funds are needed in a disaster. Secondly, the federal government can move supplies and other resources between states as the need arises. Last, for every state to maintain and equivalent to the CDC, FEMA, and other parts of the federal government sufficient to handle any disaster would be wasteful and cost prohibited.

Hospitals with the help of local and state government need to be ready to handle the more common disasters such as fires, floods, storms, explosions, train and plane accidents, etc, not a pandemics the size of which the nation has not seen in a hundreds years.

What you say is true up to a point

states can do little during an emergency

but they have had about 10 years since the previous chinese pandemic and that is time enough to stockpile needed supplies and equipment

but states like new york said why bother?

uncle sugar will take care of us when the time comes

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there. Just as a tornado or hurricane does not hit every state, epidemics, can be selected which makes it bit wasteful for every state to stockpile for what is very unlikely to occur their state. This is the first pandemic that hit a number of states in a hundred years. For every state to build a stockpile would be wasteful.

Another point to keep in mind is that the CDC employs over 10,000 people of which about 2500 are epidemiologist. Most states employ between 0 and 3 epidemiologist. Most state have no plans for a pandemic because that is something the federal government plans and they inform the states as what their part should be.

States should plan on what is likely to effect their state and federal government should plan on events that are not likely to hit any specific state but likely to hit somewhere in the nation.

Of course, the states could stock pile if the feds said they needed to do so but that has never been the case. The states stockpile only enough to last till the feds to get there.

not so

Its always been the states and local government with primary responsibility for the health of their citizens

the states like new york and california chose to be unprepared

They have primary responsibility of delivering healthcare to their citizens. That does not mean buying billions of dollars of supplies that they are not likely to need but others states will need. Centrally purchasing supplies and distributing where needed can be done far cheaper than every state doing it. It would be a huge duplication of cost and effort.

why not? if it is their responsibility, it's their responsibility. I love it, the push the blame from the true idiots that didn't place orders in February to help their own. It wasn't trump's nor obammy's. it isn't a president's position to provide local healthcare. it is mayors and governors. but hey, keep your tongue tight against your demofks dick.

It's responsibility of the local medical community to provide medical care for routine problems and emergencies not epidemics, with no known treatments or prevention requiring resources that would be impossible for them to provide. This is were the federal government's responsible comes into play. Unlike local healthcare facilities, the federal government has unlimited resources in a national emergency. They spend billions dollars on research, planning, and acquiring resources to deal with national emergencies that may or may not ever come to pass. They have the ability to shift resources to where they are most needed, to force if necessary the production of needed equipment and supplies.

then their administrations should be fired. everyone. when they heard of this problem they should have immediately put in orders with their distributors. That isn't a trump responsibility. he's there if there are issues and only if there are issues to relax the supplies. dude, please your constant convering up for the slackers. McFly

It is the responsibility of federal government to provide help to the states in a national emergency. This is why we spend 18 billion a year on FEMA and about 8 billion on the CDC. It would be incredibility stupid for thousands of hospital to spend tens of million of dollars each on equipment and supplies that they would most probably never use. The federal goverment only needs to stock pile some what will be finally needed because supplies and equipment can moved from place to place as needed.

With the welfare beggar mentality that grips this country its not surprising libs in big blue cities would shirk their duty to provide for the health of their citizens

but it really is their responsibilty whether you admit it or not

we know that NIH and the CDC did not spend their billions wisely since the last pandemic 10 years ago

So your solution is elimination the federal agencies that help states in an emergency so that each state would have to build their equivalent of the CDC, FEMA, and warehouse all supplies for whatever emergency might arise?

If the choice is only extremes - i.e. no FEMA or only FEMA with no state and local responsibility that is your world not mine

but consider this: if you put all your faith in the feds and they are asleep at the wheel such as NIH and CDC was this time you are pretty much screwed.

you will wreck the economy and the nations health at the same time

The only way to avoid wrecking the economy when a virus like covid 19 hits is to get ahead of the game which means ordering test kits before the first known US infection, not two months later and having response teams investigating the first and every infection, testing, tracking, and quarantining. If that doesn't happen then the country will be faced with mitigation and that means serious economic consequences.

Stopping an epidemic is not rock science. It takes advanced planning, adequate resources, and a leadership that understands the importance of a rapid response. Almost 1 month after we learned about Covid 19, the White House formed a response task force to determine the proper response and a division of responsibilities between the states and the various parts of the federal government.

I know libs are trying to make this trump’s katrina but it wont fly outside of lib la la land

Sorry, but it already is.

If Trump was President during Katrina.... " Its a thunderstorm. Low risk." "A shower, It will rain & then leave."

As for after the storm. look at Puertoi Rico. A total fuck up.

Trump can 't even get testing to where it needs to be. Now he says we don't need it.