Why did God create evil?

[otto105]

The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.

Everything God created is good.

Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.

Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.

He had to have some reason for republicans.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

Socialism is an economic construct.


Religion is mythical.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Sone have trouble reading, though they consider themselves intellectuals

Perhaps some are just a little more intellectually honest in deciphering the tenor of what was written. Perhaps some are more capable of seeing where discussion is aimed. Ever think of that?

Really, it's fine. I don't care enough about it to debate it in a relentless manner. My problem is only that if you're gonna do it, then, do it right.

 

[ding]

Natural selection has two components; functional advantage and transfer of functional advantage to the next generation. You are literally saying that functional advantage is a perspective instead of a reality.

It is easy to see and understand why certain behaviors lead to success and certain behaviors lead to failure.

Are you familiar with the so-called happiness advantage?

That isn’t what I’m literally saying. Another fallacy...

Outcomes are not perspectives.

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe? You believe that reality can be anything we want it to be?

Do you know what the difference is between subjective and objective?

 

[ding]

The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.

Everything God created is good.

Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.

Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.

He had to have some reason for republicans.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

Socialism is an economic construct.


Religion is mythical.

Socialism is more than an economic construct. Socialism behaves like a religion. I've already made the argument for that.

 

[ding]

The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.

Everything God created is good.

Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.

Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.

God didn’t create anything.

Evolution did.

The laws of nature predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise given enough time and the right conditions. Those laws existed before space and time itself.

 

[Vastator]

That isn’t what I’m literally saying. Another fallacy...

Outcomes are not perspectives.

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

 

[Vastator]

The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.

Everything God created is good.

Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.

Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.

God didn’t create anything.

Evolution did.

The laws of nature predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise given enough time and the right conditions. Those laws existed before space and time itself.

Proof...?

 

[otto105]

That isn’t what I’m literally saying. Another fallacy...

Outcomes are not perspectives.

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe? You believe that reality can be anything we want it to be?

Do you know what the difference is between subjective and objective?

Your two statements are mutually exclusive.

A logical or illogical universe has nothing to do with a personal belief in reality.

 

[ding]

Outcomes are not perspectives.

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

 

[Vastator]

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

Who stated such a belief?

 

[ding]

Outcomes are not perspectives.

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe? You believe that reality can be anything we want it to be?

Do you know what the difference is between subjective and objective?

Your two statements are mutually exclusive.

A logical or illogical universe has nothing to do with a personal belief in reality.

It has to do with reality. In reality there are reasons for why things are the way they are. Things just don't occur randomly. We live in a universe where there has never been an uncaused event. For any given event, one can go back and study the steps and understand the root cause for every outcomes.

 

[ding]

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

Who stated such a belief?

You did when you effectively argued against reality by arguing for perception of reality.

 

[otto105]

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

At one time homosexuality was considered dysfunctional behavior, clearly the perception was incorrect.

 

[ding]

The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.

Everything God created is good.

Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.

Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.

God didn’t create anything.

Evolution did.

The laws of nature predestined that beings that know and create would eventually arise given enough time and the right conditions. Those laws existed before space and time itself.

Proof...?

Which part? That the laws of nature existed before space and time or that the laws of nature predestined intelligence would arise.

The proof for the former is that the creation of space and time followed the laws of quantum mechanics and conservation of energy. Which means those laws existed before space and time itself. How else do you think the universe was created form nothing if not by following the laws of nature.

The proof of the latter can be found in Seti who search for intelligence because they believe the laws of nature are such that intelligence will eventually arise given enough time and the right conditions.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.

Everything God created is good.

Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.

Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.

How do you know?

 

[otto105]

Yet outcomes(or predicted, or percieved outcomes) influence behavior. What actually happens; isn’t intrinsically universal to the perception of what has happened...

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe? You believe that reality can be anything we want it to be?

Do you know what the difference is between subjective and objective?

Your two statements are mutually exclusive.

A logical or illogical universe has nothing to do with a personal belief in reality.

It has to do with reality. In reality there are reasons for why things are the way they are. Things just don't occur randomly. We live in a universe where there has never been an uncaused event. For any given event, one can go back and study the steps and understand the root cause for every outcomes.

Sorry, there is not grand hand of a deity guiding everything in the universe.

There is just turbulent correlation.

 

[ding]

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

At one time homosexuality was considered dysfunctional behavior, clearly the perception was incorrect.

Apparently you don't understand how objective truth works. Objective truth is discovered through a conflict and confusion process where slight differences or diversity leads to conflict and confusion which ultimately results in truth rising to the top. This happens because error cannot stand eventually it fails. So objective truth is discovered.

 

[buttercup]

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

At one time homosexuality was considered dysfunctional behavior, clearly the perception was incorrect.

Only to people who go along with what society says is right or wrong. Not all of us look to society as our moral compass.

 

[ding]

Yes, outcomes influence behaviors. It isn't a surprise that a girl who goes out partying all the time fails at school and a girl who stays home studying, doesn't. That outcome will influence behaviors if the girl who goes out partying learns anything from her failure. And the behaviors of the girl who practiced successful behaviors has her behaviors reinforced.

These are not perceptions, these are outcomes which provide feedback. It is the same for all behaviors. These aren't perceptions. These are realities.

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe? You believe that reality can be anything we want it to be?

Do you know what the difference is between subjective and objective?

Your two statements are mutually exclusive.

A logical or illogical universe has nothing to do with a personal belief in reality.

It has to do with reality. In reality there are reasons for why things are the way they are. Things just don't occur randomly. We live in a universe where there has never been an uncaused event. For any given event, one can go back and study the steps and understand the root cause for every outcomes.

Sorry, there is not grand hand of a deity guiding everything in the universe.

There is just turbulent correlation.

I agree. We are effectively on our own. But there is absolutely an intelligence that is responsible for creating existence. There is only one solution to the first cause conundrum. Something which is eternal and unchanging. This solution requires it to be no thing as in no material thing. The closest thing we can say is intelligence.

So this grand deity is not pulling strings are doing magical things, but is logical and has created laws of nature which are logical and serve as a self correcting feature. We are all being pruned whether we like it or not.

 

[Vastator]

Perceptions are ones realities. The world only exists through the eyes of the observer.

So then you don't believe that we live in a logical universe?

No. That is not what I “believe”. However spamming additional questions, doesn’t settle those that have been asked prior...

The questions are meant to show the incongruity of believing that all behaviors lead to equal outcomes. They don't. There are literally certain behaviors which lead to functional advantages and certain behaviors which lead to dysfunction. These are not perceptions, these are realities. People can pretend that things aren't their fault, but when you practice dysfunctional behaviors, you will end up with dysfunctional results.

Who stated such a belief?

You did when you effectively argued against reality by arguing for perception of reality.

No. I didn’t...