Why Conservatives can't Whitewater Obama

[Old Rocks]

Libya= Iraq? O casualties vs 200,000. Made us friends as opposed to millions of jihadist enemies...

Republicans even blocked funds for Libya

Obama blocked security for our Ambassador then ignored his calls for help

Still repeating that stuff? Hillary kicked your asses on that. And the military has completely stated that such talk is a lie.

 

[Sallow]

Libya= Iraq? O casualties vs 200,000. Made us friends as opposed to millions of jihadist enemies...

Republicans even blocked funds for Libya

Obama blocked security for our Ambassador then ignored his calls for help

Bullshit.

Hey..where's your Brian Terry avatar?

The guy currently occupying that space is singing to the Chinese about the US spying on them. Snowden..what a liberatarian/conservative hero..alrighty!

 

[Sallow]

The "Conservatives" have a bit of a problem. Their "Scandals" have been blowing back on them. They have been repeatedly caught in creating false e-mails, or altering communications so they state something other than what the originals did.

Issa's flip flopped and NOW he's refusing to release transcripts on the IRS "scandal".

It just doesn't get any better.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Republicans even blocked funds for Libya

Obama blocked security for our Ambassador then ignored his calls for help

Still repeating that stuff? Hillary kicked your asses on that. And the military has completely stated that such talk is a lie.

Oh, so that's why they still refuse to tell us where Obama was that night

What difference does it make?

 

[healthmyths]

Again... for those of you who STILL don't think the MSM is biased let me ask one question.

Look at these statistics for average annual unemployment from this site: Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

1. Obama 9.0%
2. Reagan 7.5
3. Carter 6.5
4. Bush 6.3
5. Bush 43 5.3
6. Clinton 5.2

Where is the MSM over a 5 year average of unemployment of 9% under Obama?

In spite of almost one million jobs destroyed during Dot.com bust, recession, 9/11 and worst hurricane SEASONS in history.. Bush average 5.3%

Substantiation:

DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade

DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events

All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in tax revenue due to the above losses !

 

[healthmyths]

The "Conservatives" have a bit of a problem. Their "Scandals" have been blowing back on them. They have been repeatedly caught in creating false e-mails, or altering communications so they state something other than what the originals did.

All of that may be true!
But without the MSM support by suppressing stories, modifying stories they are protecting Obama...
Why is it so hard to comprehend that MSM presents stories.
Low information voters (LIVs) can only handle MSM's 30 second sound bites.
Those sound bites form the opinion of the LIVs!
And those opinions based on biased information are responded in biased poll questions which then influence political votes!

So the Major Major advantage Obama has is 85% of the MSM support him and Democrats!

The above and according to the below.. will affect you!

In an interview with the black-oriented TV One earlier this year, U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., said the Obama era might be ending in 2016, but his legacy would carry on in the form of “an organization that contains a kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life.”

“That’s going to be very, very powerful,” she added.

When the interviewer, Roland Martin of “Washington Watch,” asked if she was referring to Organizing for America, the new name of the original Obama for America campaign outfit, Waters agreed.

And, she added ominously: “That database will have information about everything on every individual in ways that it’s never been done before.”

Those words sound kind of eerie now, given what we’ve learned about how Obama’s IRS treats citizens exercising democratic rights – and how the NSA keeps an eye on everybody else.
Maxine Waters raves about Obama?s epic database, comes back to bite her - BizPac Review

 

[Cuyo]

Conservatives don't have to do anything.
This administration is doing it to themselves.
Poll: President Obama job approval rating down | Alternative
These disapproval ratings will go up even higher, when more people realizes what the new Health Care Bill will do to them in 2014.

Oh, horseshit. After the initial honeymoon period he fell to ~50% and he's been there ever since, occasionally fluctuating 3-4 points in one direction or the other. All the while you folks have been here shrieking with joy every time he drops a few points for a moment in time.

And every time, THIS is gonna be the one that brings down the administration... THIS time we got a hold of the loop that's gonna undo the whole sweater.

A few weeks later it's exposed as being a nothing, blown out of proportion, and nobody gives a shit anymore.

 

[Cuyo]

If you think that Clinton was impeached over a bj, that might be your whole problem right there. Did he lose his law license over a bj too?

he lost his license because he lied about a bj. Impeachment was the gops first step to becoming irrelvant except in being able to derail legislation. Iraq, the recession, and the teaparty were mere steps along the batshit crazy line. Impeachment was great theatre when even Trent Lott said we're actuqally gonna have to vote on this. LOL

He lost his license for perjury and obstruction of justice.

Well I feel there MUST be more to it than that, I mean there must have been mitig...

PERIOD.

Oh PERIOD. I see. Up till then I thought you were just being an idiot, but now I know you're for real.

 

[rightwinger]

Again... for those of you who STILL don't think the MSM is biased let me ask one question.

Look at these statistics for average annual unemployment from this site: Notice: Data not available: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

1. Obama 9.0%
2. Reagan 7.5
3. Carter 6.5
4. Bush 6.3
5. Bush 43 5.3
6. Clinton 5.2

Where is the MSM over a 5 year average of unemployment of 9% under Obama?

In spite of almost one million jobs destroyed during Dot.com bust, recession, 9/11 and worst hurricane SEASONS in history.. Bush average 5.3%

Substantiation:

DID THIS HAPPEN??
1) Dot.com bust cost $5 trillion in lost market value.. this means every year for 30 years now starting in 2000 the federal revenue is over $20 billion written off against taxes owed.
How many people LOST jobs due to the bust??
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion ? Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

DID THIS HAPPEN??
2) Did YOU forget that 9/11 occurred and it cost $2 trillion over the next 30 years again $8 billion will NOT BE PAiD.. was that Bush's fault?
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York!!
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone.
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade

DID THIS HAPPEN??
3) $1 trillion in written off losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history!
The worst Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. Andrew slammed into South Florida in 1992 as a Category 5. It caused 40 deaths and $30 billion in property damage. More than 250,000 people were left homeless and 82,000 businesses were destroyed or damaged.
Hurricane Katrina ALONE! Year 2005: Hurricanes Katrina and Rita
On August 25, 2005, Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast of the U.S. as a strong Category 3 or low Category 4 storm. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Hurricane Rita quickly followed Katrina only to make matters worse. Between the two, more than $200 billion in damage was done. 400,000 jobs were lost and 275,000 homes were destroyed. Many of the jobs and homes were never to be recovered. Hundreds of thousands of people were displaced and over 1,000 were killed and more are missing. The effect on oil and gasoline prices was long-lasting.

400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita
145,000 jobs in NYC alone due to 9/11
300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts.

Almost 1 million jobs alone from those 3 events

All of this while having almost $60 billion a year in tax revenue due to the above losses !

What is the relevance of an average unemployment figure?

 

[bendog]

Because the gop is simply bat shit crazy

Lawmaker Says Man's Brain More Concerned About Costs

 

[Luddly Neddite]

So far....Conservatives are right where I expect them to be

No introspection on how effective their tactics are.......Blame the Liberal Media

Lets see how the rest of our USMB conservatives respond

This is why they just keep losing.

Rs don't take responsibility for anything they say or do. Its always the Great Liberal Media Conspiracy.

Meanwhile, hardly a day goes by that some idiot R says something incredibly stupid.

 

[Stephanie]

Because the gop is simply bat shit crazy

Lawmaker Says Man's Brain More Concerned About Costs

lakhotas cousin
yawn

 

[The Rabbi]

So far....Conservatives are right where I expect them to be

No introspection on how effective their tactics are.......Blame the Liberal Media

Lets see how the rest of our USMB conservatives respond

This is why they just keep losing.

Rs don't take responsibility for anything they say or do. Its always the Great Liberal Media Conspiracy.

Meanwhile, hardly a day goes by that some idiot R says something incredibly stupid.

Which party controls the majority of governorships and state houses?
Ka-Ching.

 

[bendog]

So far....Conservatives are right where I expect them to be

No introspection on how effective their tactics are.......Blame the Liberal Media

Lets see how the rest of our USMB conservatives respond

This is why they just keep losing.

Rs don't take responsibility for anything they say or do. Its always the Great Liberal Media Conspiracy.

Meanwhile, hardly a day goes by that some idiot R says something incredibly stupid.

no, all they have are insults, accusations of low information, and dissembling from any information that controverts their suppositions. And that's why they lose.

 

[Stephanie]

So far....Conservatives are right where I expect them to be

No introspection on how effective their tactics are.......Blame the Liberal Media

Lets see how the rest of our USMB conservatives respond

This is why they just keep losing.

Rs don't take responsibility for anything they say or do. Its always the Great Liberal Media Conspiracy.

Meanwhile, hardly a day goes by that some idiot R says something incredibly stupid.

no, all they have are insults, accusations of low information, and dissembling from any information that controverts their suppositions. And that's why they lose.

have you seen your posts on this board?...you really shouldn't talk about others and low information

 

[Dot Com]

why do repubs have to attack instead of legislate?

 

[Synthaholic]

Andy says it well:

The greatest failure of the GOP is not realizing that Obama is a president they could have worked with on policy grounds, and whose relationship with them could have actually defused some of the very traits that suburban voters and most generations under 40 still find so disturbing in the GOP base.

Here, for example, was a man whose family life would make him a cult hero if he were a Republican, but who has been demonized as an alien threat to America from the get-go. Here’s a Democrat who adopted Heritage Foundation ideas for healthcare exchanges. Here’s a Democrat who has actually cut Medicare. His stimulus was one-third tax cuts. Domestic energy production has soared under Obama, even as record numbers of illegal immigrants have been deported. There were and are so many ways in which the GOP could have used Obama for their own advantage – both strategically and culturally. But they refused to, opting instead for visceral, dumb, self-defeating short-term tactical political advantage. All tactics and emotion; no strategy and reason.

I agree. Very well put.

Sullivan puts it well and it raises another question

What was the GOP end game in engaging in nonstop obstructionism? Did they really believe they would win in the end?

Other than......It felt good at the time
What long term political advantage did the Republicans hope to gain?

They cynically, and maybe correctly, count on the short attention span, the general ignorance, and the rampant apathy of the American public.

They thought they could just point to every negative that they either brought about (credit downgrade), or prolong (joblessness), blame Obama, and waltz back in in 2012.

Didn't work, and now they cannot do a 180 overnight.

They are basically stuck with their failed talking points.

 

[Synthaholic]

To paraphrase a sleaze bag former president and husband of the former secretary/state "it's the media stupid". Clinton is still living proof that a president can get away with anything if he is a democrat.

Even contriving a phony excuse to start a war?

Did we ever get a reason why we went to war with Libya?

And yes, Clinton did a number phoney attacks to distract people from his impeachment.

We didn't.

 

[Stephanie]

Andy says it well:



I agree. Very well put.

Sullivan puts it well and it raises another question

What was the GOP end game in engaging in nonstop obstructionism? Did they really believe they would win in the end?

Other than......It felt good at the time
What long term political advantage did the Republicans hope to gain?

They cynically, and maybe correctly, count on the short attention span, the general ignorance, and the rampant apathy of the American public.

They thought they could just point to every negative that they either brought about (credit downgrade), or prolong (joblessness), blame Obama, and waltz back in in 2012.

Didn't work, and now they cannot do a 180 overnight.

They are basically stuck with their failed talking points.

omg, you post stuff from a man who attacts down syndrome children and sit here giving some high and mighty lecture...you are stuck from any reality and need others to try and find it for you
pfeeeesh

 

[Synthaholic]

well bully for you..are we suppose to care?
and you petty libs on the board give atta boy for anything...shallow

And yet...here you are...caring very much Stephanie.

she could care less!!! That would explain her posts all over this thread

mad dave-ing, yo.