Why can't Public Assistance increase?

[Anathema]

Wrong. The national power grid was built by the federal government and the DOE is responsible for maintaining and expanding.

The private companies that own, build, and maintain the national power grid are government contractors.

Dude. I work for the third largest Gas and Electric utility company in the United States. Please don't tell me I am unaware of how my own job is organized. Have a nice day.

 

[hadit]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

 

[OnePercenter]

There is no free market or enterprise, and the Republican system since at least 1970 has been throwing the middle class under the bus. I should know, I'm one of those capitalists.

You're also FOS.

Anybody with the slightest knowledge of our economy understands that it's consumer demand that threw our workers under the bus. Customers demand cheap products and they don't care what workers are paid or where their products are produced at.

Politicians do not control that. Our government is not in charge of creating good jobs, good wages, and good benefits. They may be able to create incentives, but those are withering as well.

You're also FOS.

Anybody with the slightest knowledge of our economy understands that it's consumer demand that threw our workers under the bus. Customers demand cheap products and they don't care what workers are paid or where their products are produced at.

Politicians do not control that. Our government is not in charge of creating good jobs, good wages, and good benefits. They may be able to create incentives, but those are withering as well.

Customers demand cheaper products because they afford to pay more due to wage disparity.

 

[OnePercenter]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

 

[OnePercenter]

There is no free market or enterprise, and the Republican system since at least 1970 has been throwing the middle class under the bus. I should know, I'm one of those capitalists.

"Middle class" is a myth developed by Marxists. Roughly 38% of the people who were considered "middle class" in 1970 are not in the "middle class" today. Most moved up, some moved down. Likewise, the group you call "the rich" aren't the same people either.... nor are "the poor" ...these are all class categories you speak of as if they never change. We don't have classes in America. You are free to aspire to any class you want to be in.

You claim to be a capitalist but you're espousing Marxism so that means you can only be a corporatist. You're actually a bigger threat to free market capitalism than the Socialists. You exploit the power of government for your advantage. That's not free market capitalism... it's the antithesis of it.

"Middle class" is a myth developed by Marxists. Roughly 38% of the people who were considered "middle class" in 1970 are not in the "middle class" today. Most moved up, some moved down. Likewise, the group you call "the rich" aren't the same people either.... nor are "the poor" ...these are all class categories you speak of as if they never change. We don't have classes in America. You are free to aspire to any class you want to be in.

You claim to be a capitalist but you're espousing Marxism so that means you can only be a corporatist. You're actually a bigger threat to free market capitalism than the Socialists. You exploit the power of government for your advantage. That's not free market capitalism... it's the antithesis of it.

The economic class you belong is a myth? LOL!

 

[hadit]

There is no free market or enterprise, and the Republican system since at least 1970 has been throwing the middle class under the bus. I should know, I'm one of those capitalists.

You're also FOS.

Anybody with the slightest knowledge of our economy understands that it's consumer demand that threw our workers under the bus. Customers demand cheap products and they don't care what workers are paid or where their products are produced at.

Politicians do not control that. Our government is not in charge of creating good jobs, good wages, and good benefits. They may be able to create incentives, but those are withering as well.

You're also FOS.

Anybody with the slightest knowledge of our economy understands that it's consumer demand that threw our workers under the bus. Customers demand cheap products and they don't care what workers are paid or where their products are produced at.

Politicians do not control that. Our government is not in charge of creating good jobs, good wages, and good benefits. They may be able to create incentives, but those are withering as well.

Customers demand cheaper products because they afford to pay more due to wage disparity.

Wages rise and fall due to many factors, primary among which is automation. Gone are the days, for example, when a man could work the assembly line all his life, send his kids to college, and retire at 62 1/2. In a service economy like ours, wages are much more closely tied to demand, and with the very rapid pace of change, can fall to very little almost overnight. Government can't really do a whole lot about that.

 

[hadit]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

 

[OnePercenter]

Wrong. The national power grid was built by the federal government and the DOE is responsible for maintaining and expanding.

The private companies that own, build, and maintain the national power grid are government contractors.

Dude. I work for the third largest Gas and Electric utility company in the United States. Please don't tell me I am unaware of how my own job is organized. Have a nice day.

Dude. I work for the third largest Gas and Electric utility company in the United States. Please don't tell me I am unaware of how my own job is organized. Have a nice day.

Please explain to us how the company that you work has anything to due with the creation, maintenance, or expansion of the national power grid when the grid is managed by the U.S. Department of Energy.

 

[OnePercenter]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a dirty rotten capitalist.

 

[NightFox]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

Agreed... except:

IMHO he didn't even really CUT taxes, he just shifted most of them into the future since spending didn't decrease. Essentially he just did the old "borrow and spend" shuffle, so those taxes that he supposedly "cut" will need to be paid in the future + interest (even taking into account inflation and increased revenues due to increased economic activity).

Basically a short term stimulus gotten at the expense of the future.

 

[hadit]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

Agreed... except:

IMHO he didn't even really CUT taxes, he just shifted most of them into the future since spending didn't decrease. Essentially he just did the old "borrow and spend" shuffle, so those taxes that he supposedly "cut" will need to be paid in the future + interest (even taking into account inflation and increased revenues due to increased economic activity).

Basically a short term stimulus gotten at the expense of the future.

Which bolsters the case that he was anything but an economically conservative president.

 

[hadit]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a dirty rotten capitalist.

Self hatred is a liberal characteristic.

 

[OnePercenter]

There is no free market or enterprise, and the Republican system since at least 1970 has been throwing the middle class under the bus. I should know, I'm one of those capitalists.

You're also FOS.

Anybody with the slightest knowledge of our economy understands that it's consumer demand that threw our workers under the bus. Customers demand cheap products and they don't care what workers are paid or where their products are produced at.

Politicians do not control that. Our government is not in charge of creating good jobs, good wages, and good benefits. They may be able to create incentives, but those are withering as well.

You're also FOS.

Anybody with the slightest knowledge of our economy understands that it's consumer demand that threw our workers under the bus. Customers demand cheap products and they don't care what workers are paid or where their products are produced at.

Politicians do not control that. Our government is not in charge of creating good jobs, good wages, and good benefits. They may be able to create incentives, but those are withering as well.

Customers demand cheaper products because they afford to pay more due to wage disparity.

Wages rise and fall due to many factors, primary among which is automation. Gone are the days, for example, when a man could work the assembly line all his life, send his kids to college, and retire at 62 1/2. In a service economy like ours, wages are much more closely tied to demand, and with the very rapid pace of change, can fall to very little almost overnight. Government can't really do a whole lot about that.

Wages rise and fall due to many factors, primary among which is automation. Gone are the days, for example, when a man could work the assembly line all his life, send his kids to college, and retire at 62 1/2. In a service economy like ours, wages are much more closely tied to demand, and with the very rapid pace of change, can fall to very little almost overnight. Government can't really do a whole lot about that.

Employers are making money, so much so that most need to hire a third hand to shove it in their pockets.

The governments job is to make sure the predator employers don't take advantage of their employees, and to set a minimum wage to keep workers off the government dole.

 

[OnePercenter]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

Bullshit.

I stated: Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost?

Your (s) answer was W. Bush, that caused to worst economic crash in US history.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

How did eight years of BushCo work for the middle class?

 

[hadit]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

That wasn't what you started with. Can you say "move the goal posts"? Sure, I knew you could.

Bullshit.

I stated: Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost?

Your (s) answer was W. Bush, that caused to worst economic crash in US history.

And the answer is correct. Medicare expansion, for one.

And Bush was an economically liberal president. The only economically conservative thing he did was cut taxes.

How did eight years of BushCo work for the middle class?

It worked quite well until the housing bubble popped, but you knew that. The middle class hasn't fared so well since, either, even though we've had enough time for a decent recovery.

 

[OnePercenter]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a dirty rotten capitalist.

Self hatred is a liberal characteristic.

Self hatred is a liberal characteristic.

Bloviating is your characteristic?

 

[hadit]

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

This should be interesting. Liberals can't stand it when they're reminded how economically liberal their most hated president really was.

I'm not a liberal, I'm a dirty rotten capitalist.

Self hatred is a liberal characteristic.

Self hatred is a liberal characteristic.

Bloviating is your characteristic?

I'm not stating on internet boards that I regard myself as a dirty rotten anything. That was you.

 

[Boss]

There is no free market or enterprise, and the Republican system since at least 1970 has been throwing the middle class under the bus. I should know, I'm one of those capitalists.

"Middle class" is a myth developed by Marxists. Roughly 38% of the people who were considered "middle class" in 1970 are not in the "middle class" today. Most moved up, some moved down. Likewise, the group you call "the rich" aren't the same people either.... nor are "the poor" ...these are all class categories you speak of as if they never change. We don't have classes in America. You are free to aspire to any class you want to be in.

You claim to be a capitalist but you're espousing Marxism so that means you can only be a corporatist. You're actually a bigger threat to free market capitalism than the Socialists. You exploit the power of government for your advantage. That's not free market capitalism... it's the antithesis of it.

"Middle class" is a myth developed by Marxists. Roughly 38% of the people who were considered "middle class" in 1970 are not in the "middle class" today. Most moved up, some moved down. Likewise, the group you call "the rich" aren't the same people either.... nor are "the poor" ...these are all class categories you speak of as if they never change. We don't have classes in America. You are free to aspire to any class you want to be in.

You claim to be a capitalist but you're espousing Marxism so that means you can only be a corporatist. You're actually a bigger threat to free market capitalism than the Socialists. You exploit the power of government for your advantage. That's not free market capitalism... it's the antithesis of it.

The economic class you belong is a myth? LOL!

That I belong to ANY class is a myth in America. I am only limited by my ambition. You see, you HAVE to lie about this... you MUST sell this myth in order to promote Marxism. We're not some Asian country with a caste system or dictators and kings where there is a ruling class. So all your arguments for Marxism don't work as well until you build up the myth that people are trapped in their class.

The TRUTH is, we're not trapped in our class. We have the freedom and liberty to be in any class we like... it's all up to us as individuals. People risk their lives every day to come here for this opportunity.

Name one Republican politician that either authored or supported any legislation that benefited the middle class, without giving rich/wealthy/corporations a bigger boost.

George W. Bush.

George W. Bush

BushCo caused the worst economic failure in history.

Totally different point than the question you asked. It's also another lie.

 

[Anathema]

Please explain to us how the company that you work has anything to due with the creation, maintenance, or expansion of the national power grid when the grid is managed by the U.S. Department of Energy.

The Department of Energy REGULATES the electric utility industry through FERC, NERC, and the ISOS. They do not OWN anything.

If they did, how would individual electric companies be responsible for the excise taxes on the facilities (poles, transformers, wire, etc....) on a yearly basis, and why would said companies be able to deduct the depreciation of those assets (when replaced), on their taxes.

Please learn something about this industry before you make yourself look any sillier.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Employers are making money, so much so that most need to hire a third hand to shove it in their pockets.

The governments job is to make sure the predator employers don't take advantage of their employees, and to set a minimum wage to keep workers off the government dole.

No, that is not governments job. Governments job is to preserve the freedom we have to insure our own happiness and finances. Show me one of the three things you listed that are in the US Constitution.