Yes it does. That’s your belief doesn’t mean it’s true.
The pandemic response team consist of 17 members. Bolton actually dissolved the team and members were reassigned. We have no idea what happen to the pandemic response plan but we do know it was not available in Jan. 2020. Judging by the priority that Trump placed on preparing for a pandemic, it seems likely that it was shit canned. That plan could have solved so many problems and cut through tons of red tape. States would have known what to expect from the CDC and how to plan. Fights over responsibility, PPEs and test kits could have been resolved long before the pandemic. Decisions on minimum stockpiled PPEs and ventilators could have been made along with a procedure maintaining the stockpile. We could have had one the best responses to the pandemic instead one of the worst. If we had the kind of testing, quarantining and tracking we needed in March, we may been able to avoid much economic damage due to the virus.Basically, the U.S. pandemic infrastructure was like an enormous orchestra full of talented players, each jockeying for solos and fame, refusing to rehearse, and without a conductor. Even worst, they had no sheet music. Trump took care that by disbanding the pandemic response team whose job was to create a pandemic response plan.Who is responsible for the management and coordination of the federal agencies? I really don't know. Trump's job seems to be that of a commentator about the shortfalls of government, the media, and democratic party. His primary roll when he meets with the pandemic response team seems to be to make comments about the issues, some pertinent and some inane, leaving it to various agents to decide what to do. However, whoever is responsible for management and coordination should be fired for gross incompetence. There is no excuse for the CDC to distribute test kits that can't be processed by the states. And even worse the CDC sending test kits out that the FDA does not allow to be processed, failing to order reagents needed to build test kits, and no PPE's for labs or instructions as to how to process tests. This is nuts.An according to you none of the responsibility lies with the president, the commander and chief. If Donald Trump does not bear the responsibility for the planning and coordination of American's response to the virus, who does? Maybe it's his CDC director he appointed or his FEMA director he appointed or his Secretary of Health and Human Services, he appointed ? No, not any of these guys? I guess it's just the whole damn federal government that's responsible.No one is blaming Trump for the virus. They are blaming him for his response to it. The US has the worst record in fighting the virus of all major nations and Trump bears the responsibility, not China, not Obama, not the democrats, not the governors, not the hospitals, or anyone else he's tried to blamed.Those agencies that you’re holding responsible are part of the Trump administration. They work for Trump. And their director serves at his pleasure. Their performance is his responsibility and that responsibility cannot transferred or denied. As a CEO, he is well aware of this but he wants you to believe that he bears no responsibility for what any his agencies do.
No it does not, especially when our government agencies were mostly responsible. I never said it was the job of Governors, Mayors or the Speaker of the House. I'm merely pointing out that nobody had any idea how bad this could or would get. My father is 88 years old, and in spite of growing up in extreme poverty, he said he's never experienced anything like this in his life.
When we used to talk about the great economy under President Trump, the left always inserted how it was really Hussein's economy that Trump came in with. Now that we are facing such a crisis, don't bring anybody into the mix. The buck stops at the President. It's amazing.
Top disease official: Risk of coronavirus in USA is 'minuscule'; skip mask and wash hands
Should I wear a mask? The U.S. infectious disease chief says no: "In the U.S. there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask right now."www.usatoday.com
In regard to the US response to the virus, the responsibility falls directly on the president because he failed to make the response to virus a priority within his administration. In fact he did just opposite. He called the virus just the common flu. He ridiculed the news media for raising the alarm and called it a hoax. When the subject of the virus would come up he claimed it was all under control. When this is the opinion of your boss, how high a priority would you give it? The CDC sure didn’t give it much priority in getting test kits that worked and FEMA who’s responsible for maintaining supplies and equipment needed in a national emergency certainly did nothing to increase the stockpile of PPEs and ventilators.
In short, the president sets the policy and the agencies carry out the tasks needed to fulfill the president’s policy. And that just didn’t happen and there is no one to blame but the president.
You on the left keep trying that. But most voters don't have severe TDS. Trying to blame a President for a virus that came out of China and affected over 180 countries won't fly in November.
There is a lot of blame, mostly with our bureaucracies and agencies. They are the ones who held up any and all progress. I provided the links. And don't say the President can direct them to do things they refuse to do. He can't, and even if he could, what do you suppose the Democrats would be saying about Trump if he acted against their recommendations?
Our entire country is mired in red tape. That's what needs to change, virus or no virus. The only mistake Trump actually made was not closing down at least 80% of our bureaucracies and agencies when he first took office that we never needed in the first place.
The fact is nobody was in charge and that's the heart of problem. Trump wanted to be in the limelight making all the major decisions and taking none of the responsibility. Trump's famous "not my responsibility" reply ain't going to work in November.
I think it's working not bad really. HIs favorable ratings (considering the circumstance) are not doing too bad, and some even have his approval ratings higher than DumBama at the same time of his presidency. I heard a statistic on the radio yesterday (that I didn't actually checkout) that our stock market actually recovered 60% of it's losses, and the country is not nearly totally opened up yet.
I never said "none" of the responsibility lies with Trump, but much of it doesn't. Because he puts people into positions of our agencies and bureaucracies doesn't mean they are all "yes" men and women. On the flip side, you people are saying this is all about Trump and nobody else responsible.
So while Cuomo and DeBlazio were selling off their ventilators like hot cakes, then they looked for Trump to magically come enough for their hospitals. Who was responsible for that? Trump came up with them, he came up with enough beds for a potential overload of Covid patients, he provided it all in a matter of days or a week or so. He's doing an excellent job.
November is a little less than 6 months away. A lot can change (good or bad) by then. So if you're going to put money on whether Trump serves a second term or not, make sure it's money you can afford to lose. After all, look at who your contender is.
Who said, I thought Trump would lose the election.. The odds are he will win the election, not because of his brilliant leadership, or his reduction in the size of government which he has actually increased nor anything else he promised but because Americans usually vote for the incumbent following the old adage, "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't."
At the very least, I'm glad you can come to the understanding of the actual responsible parties involved here. However we do not live in an autocracy, and were never founded on that. Our federal government is operated by giving a President only so much power. We also have a House, a Senate, bureaucracies and agencies, most of whom played a part in all this.
Who said you thought Trump would lose the election? You did! Here is your exact quote only a few posts from this one:
The primary problem in the US response is two fold. First there was no game plan for dealing with the pandemic and second there was no project manager. What that meant is the responsibilities within agencies and between the states and federal government had to be establish, along with coordination between all federal agencies and states, and other parties. Second, Trump formed a committee to deal with the epidemic; however, the committee was essentially just advisors to the president. There was no "czar" or project manager to coordinate between a half dozen federal agencies and 50 states. It was a project without a plan and without a manger. It was doomed to fail, which it did and Donald Trump is the primary reason it failed so badly.
You're correct in saying the president has limited powers. However, within the executive branch itself, the president has broad powers to manage the workings of the federal government. The president can issue rules, regulations and instructions, which have the binding force of law upon federal agencies, and within limits establish by congress he can move funds in the budget to finance a project as needed. The heads of ever agency involved in the response to pandemic were appointed by Trump and serve at his please. Trump is the boss and he bears full responsibility for the poor response of the federal government to the epidemic.
You'd like to think he does only for political reasons. First of all, we never had a Pandemic Response team until that Kenyan lawn jockey got into the White House. Secondly, Ambassador Bolton only let go of one person on that team, and the NIH performed their regular duties.
To conclude that one person could have made any difference in our situation today is totally ridiculous. That "team" would have still had to rely on blessings from the CDC and FDA to make any kind of moves, just like Trump did. They didn't have any legal authority to override Trump or any other agency.
Oh! Trump didn't act fast enough. That begs the question: what if we totally shutdown the country at every threat: SARS, Ebola, AIDS, West Niles Virus just to name a few? Where would our country have been before Covid?
The buck stops at the President, but only if it's a Republican President. The buck never stopped at the President for Fast and Furious. The buck never stopped at the President for the phony applications to spy on the Trump team. The buck didn't stop at the President for the so-called Russians rigging the election. The buck didn't stop at the President for the riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, and the Ferguson Effect that terrified many major cities and police departments. The buck didn't stop at the President when somebody hacked the DNC emails. Over 92,000 US death with SARS, and nobody even knew about it because DumBama was President and the media barely covered it.
But now.........NOW, the buck stops at the presidency, because the President just happens to be Donald Trump.
The economic damage is caused by the country closing down. What would this super human Pandemic team have done to avoid that?
We only had one type of test kit when the pandemic started that had FDA approval, and those were the ones made by the CDC. Like anything government, it was a complete failure. Trump had to have people run around to see who in the private sector could help us. That wasn't Trumps fault, and there is no pandemic team that would have changed that.
You don't realize you are being played like a fiddle with this fantasy of the pandemic response team. The Democrats are using you people like sheep to try and promote the lie that everything is Trump's fault. They give you this crystal ball view of what would have happened if that one guy wasn't let go; like one person out of 7.5 billion people on this planet would have made all the difference in the world. You really have to start thinking these things through a little bit.
You are missing something big Ray.
Pandemic Team was created by Obama after the Ebola outbreak. You may want to look at the responsibilities of Pandemic team. Designed to avoid pandemic before reaching the US. Team was supposed to be China while it’s happening. Then we US team in December wants to send our scientists to study the CV in China. but how Trump created an enemy they said fuck you. Trump defended himself on video why he disbanded the Pandemic tells you that you are lying. Even Pete Navarro his top economic advisers wrote a letter late January 2020 telling Trump the seriousness of Pandemic but he was ignored by Trump.
Here is your problems. You want Trump in charge of this country. Yet you dont want him responsible. Who else do you think is responsible for the death and sick people?
Yes CV it came from China. How Trump screwed this up after that is very stupid, inept and amateur. As late as February 28 in his rally Trump called this Democrat hoax. Played golf as late as March 7 and 8 and rallies while we are in crisis. Then continued to downplayed with the helps from his media Fox News, very busy blaming and fingerpointing. Including BS restocking empty shelves. He has 3 years to restock ..... Did NOT do any ordering till mid March 2020 in panic mode. Then put Jared in charge purely amateur with no experience that is why everything are so messed up.
Shutting down air travel from China on west coast January 29 only applies to non citizens but about 40,000 US citizens flew back to US.
European travel ban east coast issued March 12, 2020. Too late. Why? That was part of his downplaying the seriousness of the crisis. Actually at first he excluded 2 countries UK and Ireland where his golf courses are located.
No matter how you twisted these... Trump is and always incompetent, inept and amateur.
Your TDS defense only applies as TRUMPTARD DERANGED SYMPATHIZERS.
In mid February Fauci said this virus was nothing to be too worried about. At the end of February, DeBlazio was telling people the same thing, and even encouraging people riding the subway and eating in restaurants. Same thing with Cuomo. Piglosi was urging people to go to Chinatown in early March, and she and the other commies spent the first two weeks of March trying to pass a bill to stop Trump's ability to singlehandedly issue travel bans.
So what does that tell us? Nobody thought it was a serious thing. It's not exclusive to Trump. The CDC, the NSI, the WHO, everybody. Trump took action the next day when the WHO issued a concern about the China virus. It infected over 180 countries, that I'm sure Trump wasn't responsible for. As for DumBama's pandemic people, only one person was let go by John Bolton, but the others continued their work in the NSI.
I know you and the other leftists want to make politics out of this using lies, but it's not going to fly, because there is noway you can convince me that out of 7.5 billion people on this planet, that one guy would have stopped this from infecting the United States.
If I did what? What I listed as my sources I researched?
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.www.technocracy.news
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
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Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
No it doesn't stop you from breathing in Bacteria or viruses.
Viruses are so small they go right through the "barrier" of the mask because they are extremely small. It is why I NEVER wear them, I have known this fact for decades.
Here is a link with a number of published papers showing that masks don't work at stopping Viruses from going through the masks.
Principia Scientific International
Why Masks Don’t Work Against COVID-19
Written by Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
Published on May 25, 2020
Excerpt:
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.
Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and
respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what
we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time
aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose
is smaller than one aerosol particle.
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream
media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only
incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with
the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical
and political history.
Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
LINK
red bolding mine
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Government, media and politically charged medical experts LIED to you and the public about the masks.
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
No it doesn't stop you from breathing in Bacteria or viruses.
Viruses are so small they go right through the "barrier" of the mask because they are extremely small. It is why I NEVER wear them, I have known this fact for decades.
Here is a link with a number of published papers showing that masks don't work at stopping Viruses from going through the masks.
Principia Scientific International
Why Masks Don’t Work Against COVID-19
Written by Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
Published on May 25, 2020
Excerpt:
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.
Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and
respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what
we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time
aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose
is smaller than one aerosol particle.
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream
media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only
incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with
the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical
and political history.
Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
LINK
red bolding mine
========
Government, media and politically charged medical experts LIED to you and the public about the masks.
Masks don't work? Explain South Korea.
The confusion is that masks aren't particularity effective at preventing the wearer from contracting a disease, they are great for people who are asymptomatic or showing symptoms wearing the masks from spreading disease to others.
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
No it doesn't stop you from breathing in Bacteria or viruses.
Viruses are so small they go right through the "barrier" of the mask because they are extremely small. It is why I NEVER wear them, I have known this fact for decades.
Here is a link with a number of published papers showing that masks don't work at stopping Viruses from going through the masks.
Principia Scientific International
Why Masks Don’t Work Against COVID-19
Written by Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
Published on May 25, 2020
Excerpt:
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.
Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and
respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what
we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time
aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose
is smaller than one aerosol particle.
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream
media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only
incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with
the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical
and political history.
Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
LINK
red bolding mine
========
Government, media and politically charged medical experts LIED to you and the public about the masks.
Masks don't work? Explain South Korea.
The confusion is that masks aren't particularity effective at preventing the wearer from contracting a disease, they are great for people who are asymptomatic or showing symptoms wearing the masks from spreading disease to others.
It didn't work in South Korea either, why do you ignore base facts of POST 166?
mediabiasfactcheck.com
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
No it doesn't stop you from breathing in Bacteria or viruses.
Viruses are so small they go right through the "barrier" of the mask because they are extremely small. It is why I NEVER wear them, I have known this fact for decades.
Here is a link with a number of published papers showing that masks don't work at stopping Viruses from going through the masks.
Principia Scientific International
Why Masks Don’t Work Against COVID-19
Written by Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
Published on May 25, 2020
Excerpt:
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.
Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and
respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what
we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time
aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose
is smaller than one aerosol particle.
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream
media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only
incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with
the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical
and political history.
Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
LINK
red bolding mine
========
Government, media and politically charged medical experts LIED to you and the public about the masks.
Masks don't work? Explain South Korea.
The confusion is that masks aren't particularity effective at preventing the wearer from contracting a disease, they are great for people who are asymptomatic or showing symptoms wearing the masks from spreading disease to others.
It didn't work in South Korea either, why do you ignore base facts of POST 166?
Post 166 in this thread? Has nothing to do with with your point.
Ignore? For starters your source is a known conspiracy-theory outlet.
Principia Scientific International (PSI) - Bias and Credibility
CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence.
As for the studies it distorted.
First link conclusion is more studies need to be performed. I'm not even sure it concluded that the doctors in the study got the common cold while wearing face masks at all, they could have gotten sick from being outside of work or with family.
2nd link conclusion is that it's not conclusive however it appears to focus on the health of the mask wearer and not preventing disease from those around the person wearing a mask.
Maybe you should just link directly to the studies and not rely on conspiracy websites to tell you what they mean.
Fact, but misleading. Just like turning away and sneezing into your elbow helps reduce the spread of disease, that doesn't mean droplets don't escape or it's 100% effective. Masks help block the trajectory and force of droplets.
Here is a study that showed a reduction in the spread of disease due to wearing a mask. It's an actual study that is conclusive and not filtered through some knock off Alex Jones type bullshit.
Influenza Virus Aerosols in Human Exhaled Breath: Particle Size, Culturability, and Effect of Surgical Masks
The CDC recommends that healthcare settings provide influenza patients with facemasks as a means of reducing transmission to staff and other patients, and a recent report suggested that surgical masks can capture influenza virus in large droplet spray. ...
Neat, dunning-kruger syndrome is fun. Maybe listen to medical experts and real scientists than going off and believing every word from some random conspiracy website because it tells you what you want to believe.
Smith, J.D. et al. (2016)
Offeddu, V. et al. (2017) “Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory
Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis”, Clinical
Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934–1942,
Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-AnalysisEffectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found evidence for a protective effect of facemasks and respirators against clinical respiratory infection amongdoi.org
Not even close.
Right? It sucks being a responsible adult. I guess.
Have fun with your seat belt, car insurance and obeying traffic signals, it's pretty much the same thing.
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
No it doesn't stop you from breathing in Bacteria or viruses.
Viruses are so small they go right through the "barrier" of the mask because they are extremely small. It is why I NEVER wear them, I have known this fact for decades.
Here is a link with a number of published papers showing that masks don't work at stopping Viruses from going through the masks.
Principia Scientific International
Why Masks Don’t Work Against COVID-19
Written by Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
Published on May 25, 2020
Excerpt:
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.
Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and
respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what
we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time
aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose
is smaller than one aerosol particle.
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream
media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only
incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with
the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical
and political history.
Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
LINK
red bolding mine
========
Government, media and politically charged medical experts LIED to you and the public about the masks.
Masks don't work? Explain South Korea.
The confusion is that masks aren't particularity effective at preventing the wearer from contracting a disease, they are great for people who are asymptomatic or showing symptoms wearing the masks from spreading disease to others.
It didn't work in South Korea either, why do you ignore base facts of POST 166?
Post 166 in this thread? Has nothing to do with with your point.
Ignore? For starters your source is a known conspiracy-theory outlet.
Principia Scientific International (PSI) - Bias and Credibility
CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence.
As for the studies it distorted.
First link conclusion is more studies need to be performed. I'm not even sure it concluded that the doctors in the study got the common cold while wearing face masks at all, they could have gotten sick from being outside of work or with family.
2nd link conclusion is that it's not conclusive however it appears to focus on the health of the mask wearer and not preventing disease from those around the person wearing a mask.
Maybe you should just link directly to the studies and not rely on conspiracy websites to tell you what they mean.
Fact, but misleading. Just like turning away and sneezing into your elbow helps reduce the spread of disease, that doesn't mean droplets don't escape or it's 100% effective. Masks help block the trajectory and force of droplets.
Here is a study that showed a reduction in the spread of disease due to wearing a mask. It's an actual study that is conclusive and not filtered through some knock off Alex Jones type bullshit.
Influenza Virus Aerosols in Human Exhaled Breath: Particle Size, Culturability, and Effect of Surgical Masks
The CDC recommends that healthcare settings provide influenza patients with facemasks as a means of reducing transmission to staff and other patients, and a recent report suggested that surgical masks can capture influenza virus in large droplet spray. ...
Neat, dunning-kruger syndrome is fun. Maybe listen to medical experts and real scientists than going off and believing every word from some random conspiracy website because it tells you what you want to believe.
I corrected it to post 366.
No it is YOUR ignorance and now stupidity, Corona viruses are MEASURED to be on average as .125 microns in size, that is a FACT you can't explain that away. Masks are not designed to block at that size , which is why they are ineffective.
You were shown this FACT:
"Structure
Coronaviruses are large, roughly spherical, particles with bulbous surface projections.[41] The average diameter of the virus particles is around 125 nm (.125 μm). The diameter of the envelope is 85 nm and the spikes are 20 nm long. The envelope of the virus in electron micrographs appears as a distinct pair of electron-dense shells (shells that are relatively opaque to the electron beam used to scan the virus particle)."
You ignored it.
Your fallacies destroys your own position because those published papers have nothing to do with the website you irrationally attack. It is OBVIOUS you never read the article with the listed published papers in it:
Here is what YOU miss:
"Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial”,nAmerican Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. Use of Surgical Face Masks to Reduce the Incidence of the Common Cold Among Health Care Workers in Japan: A Randomized Controlled Trial - PubMed
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A
systematic review”, Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a systematicreview/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein. bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence”, Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. Error - Cookies Turned Off
Smith, J.D. et al. (2016)
Offeddu, V. et al. (2017) “Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory
Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis”, Clinical
Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934–1942,
Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-AnalysisEffectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-AnalysisEffectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found evidence for a protective effect of facemasks and respirators against clinical respiratory infection among
======
This stuff and many more has been known for years.
You are too lazy to be rational.
Not even close.
Right? It sucks being a responsible adult. I guess.
Have fun with your seat belt, car insurance and obeying traffic signals, it's pretty much the same thing.
But do continue to give up your freedoms, that is what sheep do!
Drug store masks or bandannas are fine for preventing you from spreading virus to others but provide very little protection for the wearer. This is fine in an environment where people are very socially conscious. However as the country opens up and people toss their mask in favor of their local watering hole or days at the beach, N95s will become the only way you can protect yourself if you find yourself in crowd.Is there a mask that does not force you to re-breath the same air? I find that very uncomfortable.N95 masks cause hypoxia, headaches, lower your immunity, and unless you are in very close direct proximity to people with Covid19 are STUPID.
Blaylock: Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy
Dr. Russell Blaylock warns that not only do face masks fail to protect the healthy from getting sick, but they also create serious health risks to the wearer. The bottom line is that if you are not sick, you should not wear a face mask.
A lot of people who ride ATV/UTVs use them for hours at a time with no issues.
If you are healthy and do not have any lung/breathing conditions then an N95 mask shouldn't be a problem. The down side of those masks is that they require a little bit of effort to breathe in fresh air that filters in. If you have diminished capacity that could be difficult. So, it's a little bit of a catch 22 since N95 masks are good at filtering out particles, they do require a bit of effort to use that many take for granted. Don't wear one for 8 hours straight either, take a break.
With that said, most people should be wearing a mask to prevent what is coming out of their own mouths and for that an N95 is mostly overkill. You just need a barrier to help block droplets from becoming airborne. Instead of spewing out 12-20 ft. streams of disease you reduce it to within 6 ft or less. Or at least that is the general idea. Masks do not take the place of social distancing, they work hand in hand. Just like seat belts and air bags in a car.
surgical or cloth masks are probably the best option for a majority of people.
I have an N95 mask and I have not noticed any difficulty in breathing. My problem is masks not exhausting stale air.
No it doesn't stop you from breathing in Bacteria or viruses.
Viruses are so small they go right through the "barrier" of the mask because they are extremely small. It is why I NEVER wear them, I have known this fact for decades.
Here is a link with a number of published papers showing that masks don't work at stopping Viruses from going through the masks.
Principia Scientific International
Why Masks Don’t Work Against COVID-19
Written by Denis G. Rancourt, PhD
Published on May 25, 2020
Excerpt:
Masks and respirators do not work. There have been extensive randomized controlled trial (RCT) studies, and meta-analysis reviews of RCT studies, which all show that masks and respirators do not work to prevent respiratory influenza-like illnesses, or respiratory illnesses believed to be transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles.
Furthermore, the relevant known physics and biology, which I review, are such that masks and
respirators should not work. It would be a paradox if masks and respirators worked, given what
we know about viral respiratory diseases: The main transmission path is long-residence-time
aerosol particles (< 2.5 μm), which are too fine to be blocked, and the minimum-infective-dose
is smaller than one aerosol particle.
The present paper about masks illustrates the degree to which governments, the mainstream
media, and institutional propagandists can decide to operate in a science vacuum, or select only
incomplete science that serves their interests. Such recklessness is also certainly the case with
the current global lockdown of over 1 billion people, an unprecedented experiment in medical
and political history.
Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
LINK
red bolding mine
========
Government, media and politically charged medical experts LIED to you and the public about the masks.
Masks don't work? Explain South Korea.
The confusion is that masks aren't particularity effective at preventing the wearer from contracting a disease, they are great for people who are asymptomatic or showing symptoms wearing the masks from spreading disease to others.
It didn't work in South Korea either, why do you ignore base facts of POST 166?
Post 166 in this thread? Has nothing to do with with your point.
Ignore? For starters your source is a known conspiracy-theory outlet.
Principia Scientific International (PSI) - Bias and Credibility
CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence.
As for the studies it distorted.
First link conclusion is more studies need to be performed. I'm not even sure it concluded that the doctors in the study got the common cold while wearing face masks at all, they could have gotten sick from being outside of work or with family.
2nd link conclusion is that it's not conclusive however it appears to focus on the health of the mask wearer and not preventing disease from those around the person wearing a mask.
Maybe you should just link directly to the studies and not rely on conspiracy websites to tell you what they mean.
Fact, but misleading. Just like turning away and sneezing into your elbow helps reduce the spread of disease, that doesn't mean droplets don't escape or it's 100% effective. Masks help block the trajectory and force of droplets.
Here is a study that showed a reduction in the spread of disease due to wearing a mask. It's an actual study that is conclusive and not filtered through some knock off Alex Jones type bullshit.
Influenza Virus Aerosols in Human Exhaled Breath: Particle Size, Culturability, and Effect of Surgical Masks
The CDC recommends that healthcare settings provide influenza patients with facemasks as a means of reducing transmission to staff and other patients, and a recent report suggested that surgical masks can capture influenza virus in large droplet spray. ...
Neat, dunning-kruger syndrome is fun. Maybe listen to medical experts and real scientists than going off and believing every word from some random conspiracy website because it tells you what you want to believe.
I corrected it to post 366.
No it is YOUR ignorance and now stupidity, Corona viruses are MEASURED to be on average as .125 microns in size, that is a FACT you can't explain that away. Masks are not designed to block at that size , which is why they are ineffective.
You were shown this FACT:
"Structure
Coronaviruses are large, roughly spherical, particles with bulbous surface projections.[41] The average diameter of the virus particles is around 125 nm (.125 μm). The diameter of the envelope is 85 nm and the spikes are 20 nm long. The envelope of the virus in electron micrographs appears as a distinct pair of electron-dense shells (shells that are relatively opaque to the electron beam used to scan the virus particle)."
You ignored it.
Your fallacies destroys your own position because those published papers have nothing to do with the website you irrationally attack. It is OBVIOUS you never read the article with the listed published papers in it:
Here is what YOU miss:
"Review of the Medical Literature
Here are key anchor points to the extensive scientific literature that establishes that wearing
surgical masks and respirators (e.g., “N95”) does not reduce the risk of contracting a verified
illness:
Jacobs, J. L. et al. (2009) “Use of surgical face masks to reduce the incidence of the common cold among health care workers in Japan: A randomized controlled trial”,nAmerican Journal of Infection Control, Volume 37, Issue 5, 417 – 419. Use of Surgical Face Masks to Reduce the Incidence of the Common Cold Among Health Care Workers in Japan: A Randomized Controlled Trial - PubMed
N95-masked health-care workers (HCW) were significantly more likely to experience headaches. Face mask use in HCW was not demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. Cowling, B. et al. (2010) “Face masks to prevent transmission of influenza virus: A
systematic review”, Epidemiology and Infection, 138(4), 449-456. doi:10.1017/S0950268809991658
https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour...-to-prevent-transmission-of-influenza-virus-a systematicreview/64D368496EBDE0AFCC6639CCC9D8BC05
None of the studies reviewed showed a benefit from wearing a mask, in either HCW or community members in households (H). See summary Tables 1 and 2 therein. bin-Reza et al. (2012) “The use of masks and respirators to prevent transmission of influenza: a systematic review of the scientific evidence”, Influenza and Other Respiratory Viruses 6(4), 257–267. Error - Cookies Turned Off
Smith, J.D. et al. (2016)
Offeddu, V. et al. (2017) “Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory
Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis”, Clinical
Infectious Diseases, Volume 65, Issue 11, 1 December 2017, Pages 1934–1942,
Effectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-AnalysisEffectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-AnalysisEffectiveness of Masks and Respirators Against Respiratory Infections in Healthcare Workers: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
In this systematic review and meta-analysis, we found evidence for a protective effect of facemasks and respirators against clinical respiratory infection among
======
This stuff and many more has been known for years.
You are too lazy to be rational.
So you like to repeat yourself then?
