Why are the LibTarian / Third Party platforms so bad that they can’t find a viable candidate to run against a couple 80 year olds?

[BrokeLoser]

Biden. Trump.

What about FDR?

 

[dblack]

What about FDR?

He was a white guy as far as I know.

 

[BrokeLoser]

He was a white guy as far as I know.

Right, but our voting system produced FDR and some Kenyan dude who fucked shit up and no one ever cried RCV…why?
How / why did our voting system time-out?

 

[dblack]

Right, but our voting system produced FDR and some Kenyan dude who fucked shit up and no one ever cried RCV…why?
How / why did our voting system time-out?

I've talked about RCV quite a bit. I don't really believe you're interested, so I'll keep it brief. The bottom line is that plurality voting encourages entrenched, polarized division. You might get off on polarized division, but it's killing the country.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I've talked about RCV quite a bit. I don't really believe you're interested, so I'll keep it brief. The bottom line is that plurality voting encourages entrenched, polarized division. You might get off on polarized division, but it's killing the country.

Think deeper…I’m asking why our voting system worked good enough to construct the greatest nation on earth and suddenly it doesn’t work and it causes “polarized division” that’s “killing the country”?
Why not change what changed instead of changing what we know worked for centuries?
See, that’s what Libs do….they create problems, then shit themselves over the problems they create and then they want to change core tenets to ‘correct’ their fuck-up.

 

[dblack]

Think deeper…I’m asking why our voting system worked good enough to construct the greatest nation on earth and suddenly it doesn’t work and it causes “polarized division” that’s “killing the country”?
Why not change what changed instead of changing what we know worked for centuries?

Again, I think you're just trolling, but if you're really interested in RCV - google it! The answers to all your questions are easy to find.

EDIT: Ok - on the outside chance you're not just trolling, to answer your question: what changed is the efficiency of the fear mongering that the parties can do. Social media and the internet have vastly amplified the problems with plurality voting and made it untenable.

 

[scruffy]

Can the opportunity to win get any better than now? Wouldn’t now be the time to run and give it all you got?
Lib-lites have to beat two 80 year olds…the incumbent has an approval rating of 38% and a shit record across the board and the other candidate is a twice impeached, fraud committing rapist game show host with really bad hair and felony charges up the ass.
COME ON MAN…..if you don’t have a chance now YOU NEVER WILL.

The Librarians with a capital L have a strong leftard component. Half of em just want to smoke weed.

 

[Billiejeens]

Do you think we’d be okay if we had a “lesser-of-THREE-evils” choice to make…OR do you think we’ll need 19 parties campaigning to find that oh so perfect candidate?

He is insanely in love with the lessor 2 of three evils - Ranked Choice Voting Scheme.

 

[Billiejeens]

I favor ranked choice voting.

Of course.
You're a clown.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Again, I think you're just trolling, but if you're really interested in RCV - google it! The answers to all your questions are easy to find.

I’m very familiar with RCV. I just can’t help but wonder why it wasn’t framed into our original construct?
Further, I always thought of you Libertarians as constitutional traditionalists, I thought you hated the idea of deviating from our founders intent?

EDIT: Ok - on the outside chance you're not just trolling, to answer your question: what changed is the efficiency of the fear mongering that the parties can do. Social media and the internet have vastly amplified the problems with plurality voting and made it untenable.

Hold on, so we should change what we know worked for centuries because we have an easily programmable citizenry? What makes you think the programmers won’t find a way to program the idiots should we implement RCV?

Look, the problem isn’t how we vote, the problem is the new ‘citizens‘ whom have been recruited, manufactured, manifested and fostered.
What if the primary objective was preserving and protecting ALL THINGS America? What if that was paramount within both parties just like it was for decades when only the smallest of things separated the duopoly?
The manufactured faction embraces, follows and practices a new Hate America / Change America doctrine…That’s the reason for this divisiveness that you describe as “killing the country”. That’s the real problem and voting guidelines won’t change that.
We have to change the people…people have to PROGRESS and return to what was….or else.

 

[konradv]

Do you think we’d be okay if we had a “lesser-of-THREE-evils” choice to make…OR do you think we’ll need 19 parties campaigning to find that oh so perfect candidate?

As long as none of those evils is Trump.

#FELONinCHIEF

 

[dblack]

Look, the problem isn’t how we vote, the problem is the new ‘citizens‘ whom have been recruited, manufactured, manifested and fostered.

Brown people!!

You're such a piece of shit.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Brown people!!

You're such a piece of shit.

hahaha…there it is….That denial, the paranoia of realization. The avoidance of total context.
The fear and dishonesty from you Feelings People is what’s “killing the country”….PERIOD.
You refuse to understand / admit that people want to live among likeminded people. You keep shoving some new manufactured faction down our throats and then insisting that we change how we do something to better accommodate the faction. FUCK THAT!!!
Again…wouldn’t it be easier for you Feels Folks to just leave America the fuck alone?

 

[dblack]

hahaha…there it is….That denial, the paranoia of realization. The avoidance of total context.
The fear and dishonesty from you Feelings People is what’s “killing the country”….PERIOD.
You refuse to understand / admit that people want to live among likeminded people. You keep shoving some new manufactured faction down our throats and then insisting that we change how we do something to better accommodate the faction. FUCK THAT!!!
Again…wouldn’t it be easier for you Feels Folks to just leave America the fuck alone?

There! There's one sneaking up on you right now!

 

[Billiejeens]

There! There's one sneaking up on you right now!

Who?

A 5th party voter?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Who?

A 5th party voter?

I’m waiting for 17th Party to emerge before I cast a single vote.
dblack I’d suggest you do the same

 

[BrokeLoser]

There! There's one sneaking up on you right now!

See…you either have no interest in serious discussion or serious discussion terrifies you…which is it?
I’ve noticed you’re always looking for an angle, a way to duck out of every serious discussion. Aren’t your positions firm enough to defend with simple logic and or data?
What’s worse….you scared shitless of traditionalists / constitutionalists or me scared shitless of unauthorized, inorganic culture change?

WATCH OUT! There’s a traditionalist sneaking up on you right now!

 

[Billiejeens]

See…you either have no interest in serious discussion or serious discussion terrifies you…which is it?
I’ve noticed you’re always looking for an angle, a way to duck out of every serious discussion. Aren’t your positions firm enough to defend with simple logic and or data?
What’s worse….you scared shitless of traditionalists / constitutionalists or me scared shitless of unauthorized, inorganic culture change?

WATCH OUT! There’s a traditionalist sneaking up on you right now!

That's the point
He doesn't have any positions.

He just has -
Politicians who could win - bad.

 

[dblack]

See…you either have no interest in serious discussion or serious discussion

No - not with you! Dude, you're a miscreant and troll. You pride yourself on it. If you want serious discussion, you'll need to work on presenting yourself as a serious person. Sorry, just how it is.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No - not with you! Dude, you're a miscreant and troll. You pride yourself on it. If you want serious discussion, you'll need to work on presenting yourself as a serious person. Sorry, just how it is.

Wow…you sound like a hardcore leftist today….. Did a purple hair steal your login credentials?….“Say what I want to hear or I can’t talk to you.”
Your tactic is to cry “RACIST TROLL” with the hopes of discontinuing discussion. You do this because you can’t logically defend your position on matters. Remember, people with balls exchange dialogue with Grand Wizards in the KKK.
Don’t be scared, stay in there, lets hammer this out like two people with nutsacks would.