CDZ Why are republicans opposed to HR1?

[Crepitus]

I'm sure you realize that it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas.

List a few of the areas which would be violated by Article, Section and Clause of the Constitution. Betcha won't do it!

Of course he won't. He can't. He's just parroting what he's heard from the RWNJ infotainment sphere.

 

[Votto]

I'm sure you realize that it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas.

But you want the Democrats to be in charge of elections so you'll buy whatever bullshit story you are fed.

I'm not sure why the even want to debate it.

They have the votes to do any damn thing they want.

We are a one party system now.

It would be akin to Chairman Xi wanting to know if what he wanted to do was Constitutional and opened a debate about it.

LOL.

 

[Crepitus]

[As equally applied to : "it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas." and to a lesser degree "it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government."]..

Two statements of fact begging for substantiation:

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

Also, do any Democrats or other parties oppose it, and if so why? Or, what makes Republicans so special? Do Independents count for nothing? Are Greens stuck eating chopped liver? Libertarians? Why not capitalize the word Republicans?

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

GOP warns HR 1 could be 'absolutely devastating for Republicans'

Republican officials across the country fear the potential of H.R. 1.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Synthaholic]

Why are republicans opposed to HR1?

It's seems to me there is nothing but good in this bill. Someone please explain why the republicans hate it.

H.R. 1 FACT SHEET

CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS

Improve Access – H.R. 1 expands access to the ballot box by taking aim at institutional barriers to voting, including cumbersome voter registration systems, disenfranchisement and limited voting hours. H.R. 1 will create automatic voter registration across the country, ensure that individuals who have completed felony sentences have their full voting rights restored, expand early voting and enhance absentee voting, simplify voting by mail, reduce long lines and wait times for voters and modernize America’s voting system.

Promote Integrity – H.R. 1 commits Congress to build the record necessary to restore the Voting Rights Act, as embodied by the House-passed H.R. 4. It also commits Congress to deliver full congressional voting rights and self-government for the residents of the District of Columbia, which only statehood can provide, prohibits voter roll purges like those seen in Ohio, Georgia and elsewhere and ends partisan gerrymandering to prevent politicians from picking their voters.

Ensure Security – H.R. 1 ensures that American elections are decided by American voters, without interference, by enhancing federal support for voting system security, particularly with paper ballots and also by increasing oversight of election system vendors and by requiring the development of a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions.

END THE DOMINANCE OF BIG MONEY IN OUR POLITICS

Guarantee Disclosure – H.R. 1 shines a light on dark money in politics by upgrading online political ad disclosure and requiring all organizations involved in political activity to disclose their large donors. H.R. 1 also breaks the so-called ‘nesting-doll’ sham that allows big-money contributors and special interests to hide the true funding source of their political spending.

Empower Citizens – H.R. 1 strengthens the political power of hardworking Americans by creating a multiple matching system for small donations. This innovative, 21st-century system of citizen-owned elections will break the stranglehold of special interests on Congress and lay the groundwork for an agenda that meets the needs of the American people. The voluntary multiple matching system will be completely paid for by a new surcharge on corporate law breakers and wealthy tax cheats. That way, the individuals and corporations who break the public trust – like Wells Fargo, which created fake bank accounts for unwitting customers, or Volkswagen, which lied about harmful carbon emissions from its vehicles, or Facebook, which violates Americans’ privacy, or Purdue Pharma, which fueled the opioid crisis – bear the cost of building a more just and equitable democracy. H.R. 1 also reaffirms Congress’ authority to regulate money in politics, pushing back on the Supreme Court’s wrong-headed Citizens United decision.

Strengthen Oversight – H.R. 1 ensures that there are cops on the campaign finance beat that will enforce the laws on the books. H.R. 1 tightens rules on super PACs and restructures the Federal Election Commission to break the gridlock and enhance its enforcement mechanisms. It also repeals Mitch McConnell’s riders that prevent government agencies from requiring commonsense disclosure of political spending.

ENSURE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST

Fortify Ethics Law – H.R. 1 breaks the influence economy in Washington and increases accountability by expanding conflict of interest law and divestment requirements, slowing the revolving door, preventing Members of Congress from serving on corporate boards and requiring presidents to disclose their tax returns.

Impose Greater Ethics Enforcement – H.R. 1 gives teeth to federal ethics oversight by overhauling the Office of Government Ethics, closing loopholes for lobbyists and foreign agents, ensuring watchdogs have sufficient resources to enforce the law and creating a code of ethics for the Supreme Court.

HR1, the For the People Act

sarbanes.house.gov

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bigger question is why are democrats for it???

it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government...

What individual freedom does it take away? Please be specific.

The freedom of Republican election officials to deny Blacks the right to vote.

 

[Crepitus]

I'm sure you realize that it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas.

List a few of the areas which would be violated by Article, Section and Clause of the Constitution. Betcha won't do it!

I don't jump through other people's hoops.

But here is an idea. Go look up who is given the authority and power to set election laws by the Constitution and then compare it to what this bill says.

You're making an argument that you are unwilling to defend with facts, links, and proof?

Ayup.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Rand Paul? That you waking up from a hangover?

Melania?!
Susan Collins?!

 

[Crepitus]

[As equally applied to : "it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas." and to a lesser degree "it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government."]..

Two statements of fact begging for substantiation:

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

Also, do any Democrats or other parties oppose it, and if so why? Or, what makes Republicans so special? Do Independents count for nothing? Are Greens stuck eating chopped liver? Libertarians? Why not capitalize the word Republicans?

Why would independents oppose it?

 

[Crepitus]

Why are republicans opposed to HR1?

It's seems to me there is nothing but good in this bill. Someone please explain why the republicans hate it.

H.R. 1 FACT SHEET

CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS

Improve Access – H.R. 1 expands access to the ballot box by taking aim at institutional barriers to voting, including cumbersome voter registration systems, disenfranchisement and limited voting hours. H.R. 1 will create automatic voter registration across the country, ensure that individuals who have completed felony sentences have their full voting rights restored, expand early voting and enhance absentee voting, simplify voting by mail, reduce long lines and wait times for voters and modernize America’s voting system.

Promote Integrity – H.R. 1 commits Congress to build the record necessary to restore the Voting Rights Act, as embodied by the House-passed H.R. 4. It also commits Congress to deliver full congressional voting rights and self-government for the residents of the District of Columbia, which only statehood can provide, prohibits voter roll purges like those seen in Ohio, Georgia and elsewhere and ends partisan gerrymandering to prevent politicians from picking their voters.

Ensure Security – H.R. 1 ensures that American elections are decided by American voters, without interference, by enhancing federal support for voting system security, particularly with paper ballots and also by increasing oversight of election system vendors and by requiring the development of a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions.

END THE DOMINANCE OF BIG MONEY IN OUR POLITICS

Guarantee Disclosure – H.R. 1 shines a light on dark money in politics by upgrading online political ad disclosure and requiring all organizations involved in political activity to disclose their large donors. H.R. 1 also breaks the so-called ‘nesting-doll’ sham that allows big-money contributors and special interests to hide the true funding source of their political spending.

Empower Citizens – H.R. 1 strengthens the political power of hardworking Americans by creating a multiple matching system for small donations. This innovative, 21st-century system of citizen-owned elections will break the stranglehold of special interests on Congress and lay the groundwork for an agenda that meets the needs of the American people. The voluntary multiple matching system will be completely paid for by a new surcharge on corporate law breakers and wealthy tax cheats. That way, the individuals and corporations who break the public trust – like Wells Fargo, which created fake bank accounts for unwitting customers, or Volkswagen, which lied about harmful carbon emissions from its vehicles, or Facebook, which violates Americans’ privacy, or Purdue Pharma, which fueled the opioid crisis – bear the cost of building a more just and equitable democracy. H.R. 1 also reaffirms Congress’ authority to regulate money in politics, pushing back on the Supreme Court’s wrong-headed Citizens United decision.

Strengthen Oversight – H.R. 1 ensures that there are cops on the campaign finance beat that will enforce the laws on the books. H.R. 1 tightens rules on super PACs and restructures the Federal Election Commission to break the gridlock and enhance its enforcement mechanisms. It also repeals Mitch McConnell’s riders that prevent government agencies from requiring commonsense disclosure of political spending.

ENSURE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST

Fortify Ethics Law – H.R. 1 breaks the influence economy in Washington and increases accountability by expanding conflict of interest law and divestment requirements, slowing the revolving door, preventing Members of Congress from serving on corporate boards and requiring presidents to disclose their tax returns.

Impose Greater Ethics Enforcement – H.R. 1 gives teeth to federal ethics oversight by overhauling the Office of Government Ethics, closing loopholes for lobbyists and foreign agents, ensuring watchdogs have sufficient resources to enforce the law and creating a code of ethics for the Supreme Court.

HR1, the For the People Act

sarbanes.house.gov

.

Just start at the top. Republicans are opposed because it would improve access. Republicans are not about lots of people voting. Matter of fact, they have taken many initiatives, hundreds of them actually on the state level, to limit access to voting for specific blocks of voters, basically any block that does not vote for them. We are in the mist of the largest assault on voting rights since the black codes of the early 20th century. It is disgusting if you ask me, and it is a huge indicator that Republicans realize their policies are not what is best for the country, it is what is best for a select group of their supporters, mostly the wealthy and the powerful. Ethically, they have no standing. Morally, they are reprehensible. And I am talking about their leadership. Their supporters, well Bless their heart, they are just STUPID.

And the guarantee disclosure part. That is a huge problem for Republicans. Which again points to the reality that they cannot publicly defend their position. I mean this shit is not rocket science. It is simple common sense. It is a disgrace that the Republican party even exists, let alone that they can actually occupy seats in either the house or the senate. State legislatures are even worse. If anything it is a testament to the total disengagement of the American population. Because I am here to tell you, if we can snap our fingers and bring back the population of this country during the American Revolution they would absolutely be tarring and feathering Republicans before running them out of town on a rail.

That was kinda my point in asking them. I want them to defend it.

 

[Erinwltr]

Rand Paul? That you waking up from a hangover?

Melania?!
Susan Collins?!

Only if you are in to lesbian soft porn. FLOTUS my ass.

 

[Grumblenuts]

[As equally applied to : "it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas." and to a lesser degree "it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government."]..

Two statements of fact begging for substantiation:

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

Also, do any Democrats or other parties oppose it, and if so why? Or, what makes Republicans so special? Do Independents count for nothing? Are Greens stuck eating chopped liver? Libertarians? Why not capitalize the word Republicans?

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

GOP warns HR 1 could be 'absolutely devastating for Republicans'

Republican officials across the country fear the potential of H.R. 1.

abcnews.go.com

Thanks!
Some Republicans are clearly terrified.

 

[Crepitus]

bigger question is why are democrats for it???

it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government...

You seem to have answered your own question.

No, he just spouted some RWNJ talking points.

 

[Crepitus]

Rand Paul? That you waking up from a hangover?

Melania?!
Susan Collins?!

Phill?

 

[wamose]

HR1 is all about bringing about one party, totalitarian rule. If you want HR1, go to China or No Korea.

 

[Grumblenuts]

[As equally applied to : "it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas." and to a lesser degree "it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government."]..

Two statements of fact begging for substantiation:

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

Also, do any Democrats or other parties oppose it, and if so why? Or, what makes Republicans so special? Do Independents count for nothing? Are Greens stuck eating chopped liver? Libertarians? Why not capitalize the word Republicans?

Why would independents oppose it?

I don't know. From my experience most Independents are to the right of the Republicans, not to the left of the Democrats like me. So it might be interesting to find out.

 

[Crepitus]

[As equally applied to : "it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas." and to a lesser degree "it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government."]..

Two statements of fact begging for substantiation:

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

Also, do any Democrats or other parties oppose it, and if so why? Or, what makes Republicans so special? Do Independents count for nothing? Are Greens stuck eating chopped liver? Libertarians? Why not capitalize the word Republicans?

Why would independents oppose it?

I don't know. From my experience most Independents are to the right of the Republicans, not to the left of the Democrats like me. So it might be interesting to find out.

Lol, anywhere but here I'm a fairly moderate Democrat.

And I have noticed that about some independent voters, I also noticed some folks became independent.because they were embarrassed by the current leadership of the GOP.

 

[Justin Richardson]

Why are republicans opposed to HR1?

It's seems to me there is nothing but good in this bill. Someone please explain why the republicans hate it.

H.R. 1 FACT SHEET

CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS

Improve Access – H.R. 1 expands access to the ballot box by taking aim at institutional barriers to voting, including cumbersome voter registration systems, disenfranchisement and limited voting hours. H.R. 1 will create automatic voter registration across the country, ensure that individuals who have completed felony sentences have their full voting rights restored, expand early voting and enhance absentee voting, simplify voting by mail, reduce long lines and wait times for voters and modernize America’s voting system.

Promote Integrity – H.R. 1 commits Congress to build the record necessary to restore the Voting Rights Act, as embodied by the House-passed H.R. 4. It also commits Congress to deliver full congressional voting rights and self-government for the residents of the District of Columbia, which only statehood can provide, prohibits voter roll purges like those seen in Ohio, Georgia and elsewhere and ends partisan gerrymandering to prevent politicians from picking their voters.

Ensure Security – H.R. 1 ensures that American elections are decided by American voters, without interference, by enhancing federal support for voting system security, particularly with paper ballots and also by increasing oversight of election system vendors and by requiring the development of a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions.

END THE DOMINANCE OF BIG MONEY IN OUR POLITICS

Guarantee Disclosure – H.R. 1 shines a light on dark money in politics by upgrading online political ad disclosure and requiring all organizations involved in political activity to disclose their large donors. H.R. 1 also breaks the so-called ‘nesting-doll’ sham that allows big-money contributors and special interests to hide the true funding source of their political spending.

Empower Citizens – H.R. 1 strengthens the political power of hardworking Americans by creating a multiple matching system for small donations. This innovative, 21st-century system of citizen-owned elections will break the stranglehold of special interests on Congress and lay the groundwork for an agenda that meets the needs of the American people. The voluntary multiple matching system will be completely paid for by a new surcharge on corporate law breakers and wealthy tax cheats. That way, the individuals and corporations who break the public trust – like Wells Fargo, which created fake bank accounts for unwitting customers, or Volkswagen, which lied about harmful carbon emissions from its vehicles, or Facebook, which violates Americans’ privacy, or Purdue Pharma, which fueled the opioid crisis – bear the cost of building a more just and equitable democracy. H.R. 1 also reaffirms Congress’ authority to regulate money in politics, pushing back on the Supreme Court’s wrong-headed Citizens United decision.

Strengthen Oversight – H.R. 1 ensures that there are cops on the campaign finance beat that will enforce the laws on the books. H.R. 1 tightens rules on super PACs and restructures the Federal Election Commission to break the gridlock and enhance its enforcement mechanisms. It also repeals Mitch McConnell’s riders that prevent government agencies from requiring commonsense disclosure of political spending.

ENSURE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST

Fortify Ethics Law – H.R. 1 breaks the influence economy in Washington and increases accountability by expanding conflict of interest law and divestment requirements, slowing the revolving door, preventing Members of Congress from serving on corporate boards and requiring presidents to disclose their tax returns.

Impose Greater Ethics Enforcement – H.R. 1 gives teeth to federal ethics oversight by overhauling the Office of Government Ethics, closing loopholes for lobbyists and foreign agents, ensuring watchdogs have sufficient resources to enforce the law and creating a code of ethics for the Supreme Court.

HR1, the For the People Act

sarbanes.house.gov

.

First: the bill sends federal dollars to fund political campaigns. Not to build roads or bridges but to add 600 percent of federal money to every small dollar donated by Americans. So let’s say Mary from Michigan donates $200 to her preferred candidate. Well, now the U.S. Treasury has just chipped in another 1,200 bucks.

Second: H.R. 1 would legalize voting for convicted felons all over the country…even if they were convicted of election fraud. Does that make sense to you? Not only is this dangerous…it’s unconstitutional.

Third: H.R. 1 would weaken the security of our elections and make it harder to protect against voter fraud. Here’s how: It would automatically register voters from DMV and other government databases. Voting is a right, not a mandate. In most cases, this legislation would actually prevent officials from removing ineligible voters from the rolls and would make it much more difficult to verify the accuracy of voter information. So future voters might be underage or dead or illegal immigrants, or registered two or three times….Democrats just don’t care.

Democrats call H.R. 1 the “For the People Act.” But it’s really a “For the Politicians Act.” It’s not designed to protect your vote. It’s designed to put a thumb on the scale of every election in America and keep the swamp swampy.

 

[sartre play]

Why is a simple one vote for every American citizen such a big undertaking? Why neither political party can seem to manage it?

 

[Crepitus]

First: the bill sends federal dollars to fund political campaigns.

No more than is already done.

Fact Check: Will HR-1 Give Taxpayer Money to Federal Campaigns?

First introduced in 2019, the HR-1, or the For the People Act, is being hailed by some as the next Voting Rights Act, while opponents are pointing to its key provisions as precursors to election fraud and misuse of public funding.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Crepitus]

Why is a simple one vote for every American citizen such a big undertaking? Why neither political party can seem to manage it?

Ask the GOP.

 

[Slade3200]

[As equally applied to : "it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas." and to a lesser degree "it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government."]..

Two statements of fact begging for substantiation:

1. Implied: "republicans {are} opposed to HR1"
2. Explicit: "republicans hate it."

Also, do any Democrats or other parties oppose it, and if so why? Or, what makes Republicans so special? Do Independents count for nothing? Are Greens stuck eating chopped liver? Libertarians? Why not capitalize the word Republicans?

Well how do YOU classify yourself and how do YOU feel about the Bill?

Oh, I'm Independent and love the Bill. But I also realize I'm not the subject. One might respond "Well, Republicans are!" to which I say, then that's just a shame. All should be included.

I agree all should be included. But I think the point of the thread was for people to express their opinions. Of course I could be wrong and it could just be bait for another pointless Partisan fight