Why are libs so Violent

[sparky]

It is a betrayal of the 60s style liberalism as well.

I was going to quote Orwell........but betrayal fits better Dog......~S~

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Liberalism would decriminalize Pedo / NAMBlA / MAP activities so no thanx

True liberalism protects the weakest among us against exploitation, so would oppose that which you mention. It is the illiberal nature of Marxist identity politics sponsible for such attitudes.

 

[Oddball]

The answer you seek is this:


Precious few who describe themselves as "liberal" have any understanding of liberalism whatsoever.

The term was stolen by the progressives back in the 1930s, when people became aware that "progressive" was just repackaged Marxism...This is also why the progs worked overtime to seize the "education" systems and institutions.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

You mean like Jan 6th 2020? Oh, wait...

That was a self guided tour expect for some out of control police officers who were dealt with.

 

[Oddball]

You mean like Jan 6th 2020? Oh, wait...

Reichtag fire.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

I wouldn't even limit it to classical liberalism.

It is a betrayal of the 60s style liberalism as well. The mantras back then were "do your own thing" and "question authority". Today it is "do what we tell you" and "WE are the authority".

Wrong, this is were that crap was always gonna led.

 

[Failzero]

Reichtag fire.

Summer of Love

 

[struth]

Civil rights legislation withdrawn
Affirmative Action
DEI

What civil rights legislation was withdrawn???

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The Democrat party utilizes a strategy for getting elected so they can engage in the politics of personal enrichment. That strategy involves dividing people into little groups and selling the notion that each little group is the victim of society at large. They manufacture resentment and grievance quite intentionally while positing themselves as the answer to such.

Is it any wonder that those they influence turn all that anger they have created into violence?

 

[sparky]

The term was stolen by the progressives back in the 1930s, when people became aware that "progressive" was just repackaged Marxism...This is also why the progs worked overtime to seize the "education" systems and institutions.

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man.....what goes around sure comes around..... ~S~

 

[rightwinger]

What civil rights legislation was withdrawn???

Voting Rights Act of 1965 —​

What changed

• In 2013, the Supreme Court struck down Section 4(b) (the coverage formula for federal oversight of elections).
• This effectively disabled Section 5 (preclearance), which had required states with histories of discrimination to get federal approval before changing voting laws.

 

[WEATHER53]

Emotion overtaking intelligence produces danger

 

[struth]

Voting Rights Act of 1965 —​

What changed

• In 2013, the Supreme Court struck down Section 4(b) (the coverage formula for federal oversight of elections).
• This effectively disabled Section 5 (preclearance), which had required states with histories of discrimination to get federal approval before changing voting laws.

Um that’s still the law

No the scotus didn’t strike anything down, and they said the formula that was being used to suppress certainly states was outdated

And unconstitutional

Congress never fixed that

But the civil rights act is still law

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Emotion overtaking intelligence produces danger

.......as does belief without reason.

The true believers of the left are just as primitive as the most ardent Islamist.

 

[Dr Grump]

Reichtag fire.

Yeah, course it was...

 

[WEATHER53]

Ruled by feelings. No thought about the afterward consequences

 

[ding]

The head of the party called them patriots and few in the GOP disagreed, so yes, that is on the GOP and, even more so, on their supporters.

I’m guessing it’s your bias which is driving your broad brushed strokes because I’m almost certain you didn’t poll every single one of them.

 

[georgephillip]

Two suspects in a far-left “anti-capitalist, anti-government” extremist group known as the “Turtle Island Liberation Front” were charged Tuesday with plotting to detonate weapons of mass destruction in and around Los Angeles on New Year’s Eve in a bombshell grand jury indictment. Terrorists plotted to detonate weapons of mass destruction across LA, feds say in bombshell new charges

Riots, bombings, police shootings, assassination talk.......perhaps we need a deep dive investigation of the Dem party

How many "libs" in the Fort Bragg Cartel?

Drug Trafficking and Murder In the Special Forces (w/ Seth Harp) | The Chris Hedges Report

"The decades of warfare in the Middle East and 'Global War on Terror' has spawned a vast secret army embodied in special operations units such as the Green Berets, Navy Seals and the shadowy Delta Force.

"Seth Harp, in his book The Fort Bragg Cartel, calls Delta Force, for example, 'a high-tech death squad dedicated to covertly liquidating the male population base of a recalcitrant ethnic and tribal groups that resist U.S. military occupation.'..."

"His book details how military alliances with the world’s leading drug dealers, especially in Afghanistan where the US-backed puppet state was the world’s preeminent heroin cartel, led many in these units to engage in the distribution and sale of vast quantities of narcotics up and down the eastern seaboard."

 

[alang1216]

I’m guessing it’s your bias which is driving your broad brushed strokes because I’m almost certain you didn’t poll every single one of them.

No need really.

Republican views on the January 6th protesters have shifted significantly since the event occurred. While initial reactions were largely condemnatory, the party's stance has become increasingly divided and, in many cases, more sympathetic toward the defendants.

1. The Shift in Sentiment​

In the immediate aftermath of January 6, 2021, top Republican leaders—including Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy—denounced the participants as "criminals" and a "lawless mob." However, as time passed, this rhetoric softened among many elected officials and the Republican base.

• 2021: 51% of Republicans "strongly disapproved" of the attack.
• 2025: That number has dropped to roughly 30%.
• 2022: The Republican National Committee (RNC) passed a resolution describing the events as "legitimate political discourse."

2. "Patriots" and "Hostages"​

A significant wing of the Republican Party, led by Donald Trump, has reframed the protesters not as criminals but as "patriots" and "hostages."

• Donald Trump: He has frequently referred to J6 defendants as "hostages" and "incredible patriots," arguing they were victims of a "weaponized" justice system.
  
  
• Legislative Allies: Figures like Rep. Elise Stefanik and Speaker Mike Johnson have echoed concerns about the treatment of these individuals, with Johnson recently forming a committee to "reinvestigate" the events of that day.

3. Presidential Pardons​

The debate over whether the protesters are "criminals" reached a climax in January 2025. On his first day in office, President Trump issued over 1,500 pardons and commutations for individuals involved in the Capitol riot.

• Unconditional Pardons: Most non-violent and many violent offenders received full pardons, effectively erasing their criminal status in the eyes of the law.
• Commutations: For high-profile leaders of groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers (who were convicted of seditious conspiracy), Trump commuted their sentences to "time served," allowing them to be released even though their convictions technically remained on the record.

4. Internal Disagreement​

Despite the shift toward clemency, the Republican Party is not a monolith on this issue:

• Traditional Conservatives: Figures like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney have remained steadfast in calling the protesters criminals who threatened the Constitution.
• Law and Order Concerns: Some Republicans, including Senator Lindsey Graham, have expressed concern that pardoning those who assaulted police officers undermines the party's "Law and Order" branding.

 

[ding]

No need really.

Republican views on the January 6th protesters have shifted significantly since the event occurred. While initial reactions were largely condemnatory, the party's stance has become increasingly divided and, in many cases, more sympathetic toward the defendants.

1. The Shift in Sentiment​

In the immediate aftermath of January 6, 2021, top Republican leaders—including Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy—denounced the participants as "criminals" and a "lawless mob." However, as time passed, this rhetoric softened among many elected officials and the Republican base.

• 2021: 51% of Republicans "strongly disapproved" of the attack.
• 2025: That number has dropped to roughly 30%.
• 2022: The Republican National Committee (RNC) passed a resolution describing the events as "legitimate political discourse."

2. "Patriots" and "Hostages"​

A significant wing of the Republican Party, led by Donald Trump, has reframed the protesters not as criminals but as "patriots" and "hostages."

• Donald Trump: He has frequently referred to J6 defendants as "hostages" and "incredible patriots," arguing they were victims of a "weaponized" justice system.
  
  
• Legislative Allies: Figures like Rep. Elise Stefanik and Speaker Mike Johnson have echoed concerns about the treatment of these individuals, with Johnson recently forming a committee to "reinvestigate" the events of that day.

3. Presidential Pardons​

The debate over whether the protesters are "criminals" reached a climax in January 2025. On his first day in office, President Trump issued over 1,500 pardons and commutations for individuals involved in the Capitol riot.

• Unconditional Pardons: Most non-violent and many violent offenders received full pardons, effectively erasing their criminal status in the eyes of the law.
• Commutations: For high-profile leaders of groups like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers (who were convicted of seditious conspiracy), Trump commuted their sentences to "time served," allowing them to be released even though their convictions technically remained on the record.

4. Internal Disagreement​

Despite the shift toward clemency, the Republican Party is not a monolith on this issue:

• Traditional Conservatives: Figures like Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney have remained steadfast in calling the protesters criminals who threatened the Constitution.
• Law and Order Concerns: Some Republicans, including Senator Lindsey Graham, have expressed concern that pardoning those who assaulted police officers undermines the party's "Law and Order" branding.

As long as you feel justified, that’s all that really matters.