Why are Liberals lying so much about the HL Ruling?

[Peach]

Now, that I have proven QW and Peach have no clue how PLan B and ovulation works, I am going to go for a swim. I suggest googling and maybe taking a sex ed class.

Good. Let's discuss the topic now.

Yes, I already post much of what the prior poster did; exactly how Plan B works has not been established, but the first studies relied upon were incomplete. Plan B was meant to prevent the fertilized egg from implanting, does not appear to, at this point. The possibility that the drug may raises objections(.)

 

[Peach]

Now, that I have proven QW and Peach have no clue how PLan B and ovulation works, I am going to go for a swim. I suggest googling and maybe taking a sex ed class.

You have not proved anything other than you refuse to acknowledge that it may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.
The Supreme Court is much more educated that you and 5 agreed that it can prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.

It may, thus the Court ruled the religious objections are well founded.


2. What is Plan B?

Plan B is emergency contraception, a backup method to birth control. It is in the form of two levonorgestrel pills (0.75 mg in each pill) that are taken by mouth after unprotected sex. Levonorgestrel is a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. Plan B can reduce a woman’s risk of pregnancy when taken as directed if she has had unprotected sex. Plan B contains only progestin, levonorgestrel, a synthetic hormone used in birth control pills for over 35 years. It is currently available only by prescription

3. How does Plan B work?

Plan B works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. Plan B acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary (ovulation). It may prevent the union of sperm and egg (fertilization). If fertilization does occur, Plan B may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb (implantation). If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B, Plan B will not work.

FDA's Decision Regarding Plan B: Questions and Answers

It isn't RU-486, but the effect may be similar.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

"What Research Shows

Data from recent studies continues to provide strong evidence that Plan B does not prevent implantation (this also seems to be true for Ella, another emergency contraceptive option). The majority of research claims that the primary way that Plan B works is by preventing or delaying ovulation--if Plan B is taken before ovulation occurs. By not allowing the egg to release, there is nothing available for sperm to fertilize, thus preventing a pregnancy from occurring."

"In several research studies, women were given Plan B after determining (via hormone tests) which women had ovulated and which had not. The results all showed that none of the women who took Plan B before ovulation became pregnant (these results really help to emphasize how Plan B works by delaying ovulation). Pregnancies only occurred in women who took Plan B on or after the day of ovulation, and these women became pregnant at the same rate as women who have not taken Plan B. Such results prompted researchers Noé, Croxatto, Salvatierra, and Reyes (2011) to conclude that Plan B
“Does not prevent embryo implantation and therefore cannot be labeled as abortifacient.”
How Plan B Works

Sigh


I will also add this.

"In 2007, studies demonstrated evidence that Plan B did not prevent the attachment of human embryos to the uterine wall. Researchers obtained discarded fertilized eggs from fertility clinics. After exposing these eggs to the progestin (found in Plan B) in a simulated environment, results demonstrated that the presence of the progestin did not prevent the eggs from attaching to cells that line the uterus."

"So, the majority of research reveals that using Plan B does not cause any changes in the lining of the uterus (endometrium). Because Plan B does not have any effect on endometrium, researchers have concluded that this emergency contraceptive cannot prevent implantation of a fertilized egg. Many researchers have further explained the notion that Plan B does not stop implantation from occurring is probably the reason that it's not 100% effective at preventing an unintended pregnancy--as well as why Plan B is less effective the longer you wait to use it."


Two different studies have proven it ineffective in causing eggs to not implant... Sigh


This about the third time I have posted this.

Doesn't change the fact that your repeated claims that it works by by delaying ovulation were wrong, does it?

Um, I have posted a few links proving exactly what I said. You have no clue what you are talking about.
Low dose progestin has only minimal effect on delaying or preventing ovulation, which is why Plan B is a higher dose. You are wrong, you have no clue what you are talking about, and until you do I would suggest not commenting.

Actually, you haven't, all your links describe many possible ways Plan B might work, all of which agree with the link I posted before you became obsessed with proving me wrong.

Did you notice all the different times your link used the word may? Did you ever ask yourself why they did that? Could it be that, unlike you, the doctors aren't really sure how it works?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The mechanism of Plan B has yet to be definitively determined:

Research also suggests that the progestin (levonorgestrel) in Plan B may help avoid pregnancy by altering the movement of sperm. Some studies report that this progestin can cause cervical mucus to thicken, making it harder for sperm to reach an egg. Additional data reports that the presence of this progestin can cause sperm to become hyperactive or “confused,” thereby affecting the direction in which they swim.

How Plan B Works

The labeling as an abortificient was an error, though some types of "birth control" pills DO prevent implantation.

The final way that the pill works to prevent pregnancy has to do with the uterine lining. Hormonal contraceptives may cause changes to the lining of the uterus. The hormones in these methods can thin out or prevent the growth of uterine tissue. This may reduce the likelihood of implantation.

From that link:
"Data from recent studies continues to provide strong evidence that Plan B does not prevent implantation (this also seems to be true for Ella, another emergency contraceptive option). The majority of research claims that the primary way that Plan B works is by preventing or delaying ovulation--if Plan B is taken before ovulation occurs. By not allowing the egg to release, there is nothing available for sperm to fertilize, thus preventing a pregnancy from occurring."

QW you should pay attention to this, when a egg does not release that is preventing ovulation.

Damn, is that how it works?

Back to the fact that all the links you posted described the various ways that Plan B might prevent fertilization?

All I am saying here is that, despite your assertion that you know the answer, science doesn't agree. That, like it or not, makes your opinion unsupported by actual evidence. The studies do show that Plan B is more effective if taken before ovulation, but no study yet exist to who the actual mechanism of how it works. Everything is guess work, the truth is we don't know what happens, and claiming otherwise is silly.

 

[Againsheila]

Thanks for admitting its a restriction dumbass.

Checkmate and the two fools who thanked you

Do you have any idea how much insurance is limiting our choices? .

I dont care, you just admitted it was a restriction. Go debate yourself if it'll make you feel better dummy

You don't care, and you a laughing because senior citizens are having their medical choices reduced to the point that their lives are in danger, but you are all up in arms because Hobby Lobby's insurance only covers 16 of 20 birth control choices? Something is dreadfully wrong with you. Why do you want babies and senior citizens to die?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Ironic post is ironic...

I will give you a hint, none of the four cause an abortion. You lied in your OP.

No. They just terminate a pregnancy.

NO, it doesn't.

What about the other 2 methods Hobby Lobby objected to? Why are you ignoring them?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This is information on Progestin.....which is what Plan B is.

Maintaining menstrual cycles, a function of progestins, is important during childbearing years because unopposed estrogen without progesterone increases the risk of endometrial cancer. If you frequently skip periods due to polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), being overweight or underweight, or another disorder, your health care professional may recommend birth control pills to regulate your cycle.

Progesterone | Progestin | HealthyWomen

Synthetic progestins were developed with the advent of the birth control pill. The half life of natural progesterone was very short and researchers were looking for an agent that would give a longer half life and yet produce or mimic the effects of progesterone. Birth control pills contain, in most cases, a synthetic progestin and a synthetic estrogen. The very potent synthetic progestins prevent ovulation in a very low dose and, therefore, accomplish their function of birth control.

http://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/differences.sht

Progestin-only oral contraceptives are used to prevent pregnancy. Progestin is a female hormone. It works by preventing the release of eggs from the ovaries (ovulation) and changing the cervical mucus and the lining of the uterus. Progestin-only oral contraceptives are a very effective method of birth control, but they do not prevent the spread of AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

Progestin-Only Oral Contraceptives: MedlinePlus Drug Information

Oral contraceptives (birth-control pills) are used to prevent pregnancy. Estrogen and progestin are two female sex hormones. Combinations of estrogen and progestin work by preventing ovulation (the release of eggs from the ovaries). They also change the lining of the uterus (womb) to prevent pregnancy from developing and change the mucus at the cervix (opening of the uterus) to prevent sperm (male reproductive cells) from entering. Oral contraceptives are a very effective method of birth control, but they do not prevent the spread of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV, the virus that causes acquired immunodeficiency syndrome [AIDS]) and other sexually transmitted diseases.

Estrogen and Progestin (Oral Contraceptives): MedlinePlus Drug Information




SO let me put it in terms so a moron would get it........The overwhelming majority( I say that because there could be one without it) of oral contraceptives have progestin in it. Plan B is a Progestin Only oral contraceptive.

Do you get it now?

Wrong again.

Comparing Plan B to the Pill is like comparing OTC pain relievers to prescription versions of the same meds. Plan B contains a much higher dose, which mean its effects are a lot different. If you don't believe that, feel free to take OTC meds after your doctor prescribes a pain pill.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Now, that I have proven QW and Peach have no clue how PLan B and ovulation works, I am going to go for a swim. I suggest googling and maybe taking a sex ed class.

You haven't even come close to proving I don't know how ovulation works.

 

[Luissa]

This is information on Progestin.....which is what Plan B is.

Maintaining menstrual cycles, a function of progestins, is important during childbearing years because unopposed estrogen without progesterone increases the risk of endometrial cancer. If you frequently skip periods due to polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), being overweight or underweight, or another disorder, your health care professional may recommend birth control pills to regulate your cycle.

Progesterone | Progestin | HealthyWomen


http://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/differences.sht

Progestin-Only Oral Contraceptives: MedlinePlus Drug Information

Oral contraceptives (birth-control pills) are used to prevent pregnancy. Estrogen and progestin are two female sex hormones. Combinations of estrogen and progestin work by preventing ovulation (the release of eggs from the ovaries). They also change the lining of the uterus (womb) to prevent pregnancy from developing and change the mucus at the cervix (opening of the uterus) to prevent sperm (male reproductive cells) from entering. Oral contraceptives are a very effective method of birth control, but they do not prevent the spread of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV, the virus that causes acquired immunodeficiency syndrome [AIDS]) and other sexually transmitted diseases.

Estrogen and Progestin (Oral Contraceptives): MedlinePlus Drug Information




SO let me put it in terms so a moron would get it........The overwhelming majority( I say that because there could be one without it) of oral contraceptives have progestin in it. Plan B is a Progestin Only oral contraceptive.

Do you get it now?

Wrong again.

Comparing Plan B to the Pill is like comparing OTC pain relievers to prescription versions of the same meds. Plan B contains a much higher dose, which mean its effects are a lot different. If you don't believe that, feel free to take OTC meds after your doctor prescribes a pain pill.

Actually no it isn't. It's like comparing 325mg apap to 650mapap. Yes, it's a stronger drug, but it doesn't make it a prescription or narcotic drug. It would be like comparing Plan B to the Abortion pill. Lol
If you don't believe me, ask the many OBGYNs stating the same thing. I am guessing they are more knowledgable than you are.

 

[Peach]

Still an unresolved question:

How does Plan B One-Step work?

Plan B One-Step works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. The drug acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It may prevent a sperm from fertilizing the egg.

If fertilization does occur, Plan B One-Step may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb. If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B One-Step, the drug will not work and pregnancy proceeds normally.

I posted FDA information earler, maybe the FDA ia "lying" like WebMD.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Plan B 100% does not cause an abortion, you ******* sheep. Lol

Alrighty then, what does it do? Promote healthy embryo growth?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Can't Democrats be honest about anything?



The ruling didn't take away anyone's right to contraception. It simply says that certain companies, following very strict rules, can refuse to pay for it.



The woman can still get it if she wants it. She simply has to pay for it herself or use another Government programs, such as Planned Parenthood, to get it.



Hobby Lobby has been offering 16 different forms of contraception for years. They only object to 4 different specific types that caused abortions.



Democrats are such liars.

Ironic post is ironic...

I will give you a hint, none of the four cause an abortion. You lied in your OP.

abortifacient

: an agent (as a drug) that induces abortion

The Baby Killers are lying: Here is proof it is an abortion pill.

Plan B is an abortion pill | Texas Right to Life

 

[peach174]

The Science Research Studies are still up for interpretation and studies about whether Plan B prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.

The Mayo Clinic and the National Instistures of Health have them on their web sites.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/h...antation-science-suggests.html?pagewanted=all

Labels inside every box of morning-after pills, drugs widely used to prevent pregnancy after sex, say they may work by blocking fertilized eggs from implanting in a woman’s uterus. Respected medical authorities, including the National Institutes of Health and the Mayo Clinic, have said the same thing on their Web sites.

Luissa's site says that the FDA is working on changing this information.
They have had their site since 2009 and it still says it.
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2009/021998lbl.pdf
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in addition if may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium (mucous membrane of the uterus).

Let's see here - the FDA site since 2009 till today 2014 has not been changed yet and people of this country want the government to run our health care.

 

[Luissa]

Plan B 100% does not cause an abortion, you ******* sheep. Lol

Alrighty then, what does it do? Promote healthy embryo growth?

It prevents ovulation.

 

[Luissa]

The Science Research Studies are still up for interpretation and studies about whether Plan B prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.



The Mayo Clinic and the National Instistures of Health have them on their web sites.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/h...antation-science-suggests.html?pagewanted=all



Labels inside every box of morning-after pills, drugs widely used to prevent pregnancy after sex, say they may work by blocking fertilized eggs from implanting in a woman’s uterus. Respected medical authorities, including the National Institutes of Health and the Mayo Clinic, have said the same thing on their Web sites.



Luissa's site says that the FDA is working on changing this information.

They have had their site since 2009 and it still says it.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2009/021998lbl.pdf

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in addition if may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium (mucous membrane of the uterus).



Let's see here - the FDA site since 2009 till today 2014 has not been changed yet and people of this country want the government to run our health care.

I am sorry you can't think for yourself.

 

[Luissa]

Still an unresolved question:



How does Plan B One-Step work?



Plan B One-Step works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. The drug acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It may prevent a sperm from fertilizing the egg.



If fertilization does occur, Plan B One-Step may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb. If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B One-Step, the drug will not work and pregnancy proceeds normally.



I posted FDA information earler, maybe the FDA ia "lying" like WebMD.

It prevents ovulation, it doesn't prevent implantation, if the egg is already fertilized it will not prevent it from implanting when you take it... Like I have stated and linked numerous times. Sorry you can't get the fact that numerous doctors, OBGYNs back this up. Stop ******* with science because you are a moron.

 

[Luissa]

Still an unresolved question:



How does Plan B One-Step work?



Plan B One-Step works like other birth control pills to prevent pregnancy. The drug acts primarily by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It may prevent a sperm from fertilizing the egg.



If fertilization does occur, Plan B One-Step may prevent a fertilized egg from attaching to the womb. If a fertilized egg is implanted prior to taking Plan B One-Step, the drug will not work and pregnancy proceeds normally.



I posted FDA information earler, maybe the FDA ia "lying" like WebMD.

I have also explained how plan B/birth control work... Numerous times. Get a clue.

 

[Luissa]

Do you think you know more than OBGYNs?

 

[AmericanFirst]

The Science Research Studies are still up for interpretation and studies about whether Plan B prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.



The Mayo Clinic and the National Instistures of Health have them on their web sites.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/06/h...antation-science-suggests.html?pagewanted=all



Labels inside every box of morning-after pills, drugs widely used to prevent pregnancy after sex, say they may work by blocking fertilized eggs from implanting in a woman’s uterus. Respected medical authorities, including the National Institutes of Health and the Mayo Clinic, have said the same thing on their Web sites.



Luissa's site says that the FDA is working on changing this information.

They have had their site since 2009 and it still says it.

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2009/021998lbl.pdf

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12.1

in addition if may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium (mucous membrane of the uterus).



Let's see here - the FDA site since 2009 till today 2014 has not been changed yet and people of this country want the government to run our health care.

I am sorry you can't think for yourself.

Libtards are the idiots who can't think for themselves. Hooray for Hobby Lobby winning the correct scotus decision.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Do you think you know more than OBGYNs?

Probably knows more then idiot libtards. And just because they are obgyn's doesn't mean they don't make conclusions for political reasons.