Why Are Gun Shows So Crowded?

[CMike]

Some people may have had their life threatened and can't wait for a "cooling off" period.

And some people may have threatened someone's life, their wife, for instance, and don't want to wait till they cool off.

They can buy one illegally.

The gun was only affect honest citizens. Criminals don't care.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Universal Background Checks and theres nothing wrong as far as im concerned with a waiting period as a cooloff.

Universal background checks, like standard background checks, are a form of prior restraint; further, they can only work when used in concert with universal gun registration.
Waiting periods fall under "A right delayed is a right denied".

 

[Uncensored2008]

A relative of mine has gone to two gun shows recently and both were so crowded that people were lined up 15 and 20 people outside the door, couldn't even get inside! And once inside, after waiting for doors to open again after enough left so the building wasn't over capacity, they had to inch around in a claustrophobic space with people standing shoulder to shoulder, hardly able to move. In both cases he went with men who bought guns there.

Why the huge, panicked demand? I can remember when a householder might have a revolver in his sock drawer, or a 22 by the back door, but people didn't have the huge gun collections they have now, and there weren't these crowds in gun shows so thick nobody can walk around.

Why the big crowds, huge collections, and what does it mean for gun control legislation passing?

The elephant is in the room.

We have a deep divide in this nation between those who support the republic bequeathed us 227 years ago, and those who seek a radical change with a more European style socialism that promises welfare benefits for all at the cost of individual liberty and civil rights.

There is no middle ground between the two, and the later group is using a thin majority to ram it's view down the throat of the Constitutionalists.

The result is that we are on the brink of civil war. Anyone with any sense knows it. People want to be well armed when the shit hits the fan.

 

[Politico]

Why the huge, panicked demand?

Have you seen the gun grabber loons on this board? If you have to ask.....

 

[Circe]

The elephant is in the room.

We have a deep divide in this nation between those who support the republic bequeathed us 227 years ago, and those who seek a radical change with a more European style socialism that promises welfare benefits for all at the cost of individual liberty and civil rights.

There is no middle ground between the two, and the later group is using a thin majority to ram it's view down the throat of the Constitutionalists.

The result is that we are on the brink of civil war. Anyone with any sense knows it. People want to be well armed when the shit hits the fan.

Yeah.....I agree with you, we have a deep, deep divide like in 1860, and we are on the brink. I cannot IMAGINE having said or thought that 12 years ago before 9/11.......but here we are.

Okay, I can't seem to get an answer from you all on my third question: what does the huge gun-buying binge mean about whether or not gun control legislation will PASS?? I don't have a feel for that: and the polls are all over the place. Some say everyone favors gun control bigtime, others say make grenades legal. (Well, not really. I'm exaggerating.)

There are huge crowds at gun shows: people have to wait a long time even to pay to get IN. I've been to plural gun shows: I never heard of that before. And as for not being able to move once people are inside --- sounds like the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival, not a gun show.

So do these big buying crowds mean that everyone expects gun control to pass and they are getting their shootin' irons quick while they can, or does it mean the people say NO to Obama and the parents of Newtown? I really can't tell. Does anyone think they have a fix on this?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yeah.....I agree with you, we have a deep, deep divide like in 1860, and we are on the brink. I cannot IMAGINE having said or thought that 12 years ago before 9/11.......but here we are.

Okay, I can't seem to get an answer from you all on my third question: what does the huge gun-buying binge mean about whether or not gun control legislation will PASS?? I don't have a feel for that: and the polls are all over the place. Some say everyone favors gun control bigtime, others say make grenades legal. (Well, not really. I'm exaggerating.)

There are huge crowds at gun shows: people have to wait a long time even to pay to get IN. I've been to plural gun shows: I never heard of that before. And as for not being able to move once people are inside --- sounds like the Maryland Sheep and Wool Festival, not a gun show.

So do these big buying crowds mean that everyone expects gun control to pass and they are getting their shootin' irons quick while they can, or does it mean the people say NO to Obama and the parents of Newtown? I really can't tell. Does anyone think they have a fix on this?

No one knows if gun control will pass. On the national level, it won't. But states like New York and California are pissing all over civil rights.

I don't understand what you mean about "say no to the parents of New Town?" It's the left, with Obama leading, that is climbing atop the bodies of dead children to advance their goal of revoking civil rights, not the parents of Sandy Hook Children.

{Last week while MSNBC was busy deceptively editing a video of Neil Heslin, the father of a child murdered in the Newtown, Connecticut mass shooting, the "Lean Forward" network and the rest of the liberal media failed to notice the pro-gun rights testimony of another Newtown father, Bill Stevens. }

Why Is Sandy Hook Father Bill Stevens Not a Household Name? Perhaps Because He's Pro-Gun Rights | NewsBusters

 

[Circe]

No one knows if gun control will pass. On the national level, it won't. But states like New York and California are pissing all over civil rights.

I don't understand what you mean about "say no to the parents of New Town?" It's the left, with Obama leading, that is climbing atop the bodies of dead children to advance their goal of revoking civil rights, not the parents of Sandy Hook Children.

{Last week while MSNBC was busy deceptively editing a video of Neil Heslin, the father of a child murdered in the Newtown, Connecticut mass shooting, the "Lean Forward" network and the rest of the liberal media failed to notice the pro-gun rights testimony of another Newtown father, Bill Stevens. }

Why Is Sandy Hook Father Bill Stevens Not a Household Name? Perhaps Because He's Pro-Gun Rights | NewsBusters

Okay, thanx, you don't think gun control laws will pass nationally. But some states may get tougher laws.

You are right, the Newtown parents are not unitary in their opinions, even the dead-kid fathers. I didn't really follow all that speak-out stuff, but I am aware there is some controversy about it.

 

[Sarah G]

When the actions of two mentally ill criminals can start a push for a national gun ban of a type of weapon legally owned by almost 10,000,000 law abiding citizens...is it any wonder the other 150 million plus gun owners get a little nervous?

They may be getting nervous but as has been established, nobody will be grabbing guns. There will be banned weapons and high capicity clips for sure.

Has there been a credible link posted here regarding the massive crowds buying assault weapons at these so called gun shows?

 

[M14 Shooter]

When the actions of two mentally ill criminals can start a push for a national gun ban of a type of weapon legally owned by almost 10,000,000 law abiding citizens...is it any wonder the other 150 million plus gun owners get a little nervous?

They may be getting nervous but as has been established, nobody will be grabbing guns. There will be banned weapons and high capicity clips for sure.

Thusly, you have answerd the question asked in the OP.
Well done.

 

[PaulS1950]

Any bans that might be passed will be immediately challenged in the court and overturned. In two years we will be right back where we are today with no bans and the standard 30 round magazines still being made and sold for the AR-15. It is NOT a high capacity magazine! A high capacity magazine holds 90 rounds.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They may be getting nervous but as has been established, nobody will be grabbing guns. There will be banned weapons and high capicity clips for sure.

Has there been a credible link posted here regarding the massive crowds buying assault weapons at these so called gun shows?

Civil rights are under attack by you of the left. Scumbag Dianne Feinstein bragged that rights could be crushed without grabbing guns, by drying up the supply of ammunition and reloading supplies, Feinstien and other fascist thugs believe they can revoke civil rights without provoking a shooting war.

 

[Circe]

Dianne Feinstein bragged that rights could be crushed without grabbing guns, by drying up the supply of ammunition and reloading supplies, Feinstien and other fascist thugs believe they can revoke civil rights without provoking a shooting war.

Well, can she? You are implying that if a national law is passed against assault rifles and high-capacity magazines, that alone will start the revolution. I think that is unlikely -- after all, there was a ten-year ban of exactly that weaponry and there was no particular complaint then, not even about how the Second Amendment was being abrogated. In fact, I never heard about it at the time.

I know things have gotten much testier, but surely we are not THAT close to the brink that laws against these weapons would start a civil war. The friction of history --- everything takes 5 to 15 years longer than you can possibly believe.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Lots of psychos wanting to get their guns before they're required to show that they are stable?

They're not psychos, they're concerned that something's wrong when Congress goes after Amendment 2 to decimate American civil liberties of self-defense against an aggressive, armed criminal community that has no compunctions about breaking into other people's homes and killing for stolen goods if they have to with a little rape thrown in for the more egregious of the idiots in the armed robbery and cat burglar in the hot houses category. (a hot house is thief slang for a home with occupants known to be inside when burgling is initiated)

Ok, that's your opinion. Mine differs slightly.

And the facts differ considerably.

 

[Oddball]

Some people may have had their life threatened and can't wait for a "cooling off" period.

And some people may have threatened someone's life, their wife, for instance, and don't want to wait till they cool off.

How 'bout you check with the Koreatown merchants, whose businesses were sacked and burned during the LA riots, what they think about this "cooling off period"?

 

[Oddball]

A relative of mine has gone to two gun shows recently and both were so crowded that people were lined up 15 and 20 people outside the door, couldn't even get inside! And once inside, after waiting for doors to open again after enough left so the building wasn't over capacity, they had to inch around in a claustrophobic space with people standing shoulder to shoulder, hardly able to move. In both cases he went with men who bought guns there.

Why the huge, panicked demand? I can remember when a householder might have a revolver in his sock drawer, or a 22 by the back door, but people didn't have the huge gun collections they have now, and there weren't these crowds in gun shows so thick nobody can walk around.

Why the big crowds, huge collections, and what does it mean for gun control legislation passing?

Lots of psychos wanting to get their guns before they're required to show that they are stable?

Pure nonsense.

Virtually every booth at gun shows, and I've been to plenty of them, is occupied by licensed dealers who are required to run background checks.

You really need to get out more.

 

[Circe]

Pure nonsense.

Virtually every booth at gun shows, and I've been to plenty of them, is occupied by licensed dealers who are required to run background checks.

You really need to get out more.

I know for sure that isn't so because the last two shows my relative went to, his friends bought guns right then and there! One a pistol and the other a Mossburger shotgun. No waiting, except to get into the show, long lines. Indeed, that's where this man gets his guns, from gun shows, and brings them right home from the show.

That's the whole point of gun shows: that people don't need to wait. That's where the underage Columbine kids bought their guns at age 17, a gun show. Harris and Klebold took along an 18-year-old girl who pretended to be the one buying the guns while they stood by with her. The dealer went along with this fiction perfectly happily, though it must have been obvious this high school girl was not buying all that firepower for herself. The girl and the dealer got questioned a lot after the massacre, but it was perfectly legal......

 

[blackhawk]

A relative of mine has gone to two gun shows recently and both were so crowded that people were lined up 15 and 20 people outside the door, couldn't even get inside! And once inside, after waiting for doors to open again after enough left so the building wasn't over capacity, they had to inch around in a claustrophobic space with people standing shoulder to shoulder, hardly able to move. In both cases he went with men who bought guns there.

Why the huge, panicked demand? I can remember when a householder might have a revolver in his sock drawer, or a 22 by the back door, but people didn't have the huge gun collections they have now, and there weren't these crowds in gun shows so thick nobody can walk around.

Why the big crowds, huge collections, and what does it mean for gun control legislation passing?

Why the big crowds? People like gun shows.
Why the huge collections? Some people like collecting.
What does it mean for legislation? Some parts of it will pass most of it won't.

 

[Sarah G]

A relative of mine has gone to two gun shows recently and both were so crowded that people were lined up 15 and 20 people outside the door, couldn't even get inside! And once inside, after waiting for doors to open again after enough left so the building wasn't over capacity, they had to inch around in a claustrophobic space with people standing shoulder to shoulder, hardly able to move. In both cases he went with men who bought guns there.

Why the huge, panicked demand? I can remember when a householder might have a revolver in his sock drawer, or a 22 by the back door, but people didn't have the huge gun collections they have now, and there weren't these crowds in gun shows so thick nobody can walk around.

Why the big crowds, huge collections, and what does it mean for gun control legislation passing?

Lots of psychos wanting to get their guns before they're required to show that they are stable?

Pure nonsense.

Virtually every booth at gun shows, and I've been to plenty of them, is occupied by licensed dealers who are required to run background checks.

You really need to get out more.

I need to get out to a gun show? How fun would that be.. There may be some dealers but you have to know any laws or background checks are casual and lax at gun shows. The dealers are required to run checks but not if they are selling at gun shows.

 

[Noomi]

A relative of mine has gone to two gun shows recently and both were so crowded that people were lined up 15 and 20 people outside the door, couldn't even get inside! And once inside, after waiting for doors to open again after enough left so the building wasn't over capacity, they had to inch around in a claustrophobic space with people standing shoulder to shoulder, hardly able to move. In both cases he went with men who bought guns there.

Why the huge, panicked demand? I can remember when a householder might have a revolver in his sock drawer, or a 22 by the back door, but people didn't have the huge gun collections they have now, and there weren't these crowds in gun shows so thick nobody can walk around.

Why the big crowds, huge collections, and what does it mean for gun control legislation passing?

Because people are paranoid fools and think that the government will take their guns away. Gun shows are the only places these paranoid freaks can mingle with their own fellow paranoid citizens.

 

[Care4all]

It's easier to get a gun at a gun show than a gun shop from what I understand?

The gun lobby has a good thing going pushing that paranoia too....

As if an ak47, handgun, riffle or shotgun can truly hold back the MILITARY from "coming to get ya!" BOO!

A wise word from the Bible on fate, so to say:

He who kills by the sword, dies by the sword.