why are big cities more liberal

[8537]

People with more exposure to those who are different are generally more tolerant.

Cities have more educated people.

Those would be my guesses.

I chuckle at the generalizations from the left.
The assumption that educated people live in cities and therefore the suburbs and rural areas are reserved for the "uneducated".....Hogwash.

It's a simple fact that the average level of education is higher in urban areas than rural ones.

 

[Charles_Main]

Because living in more densely populated areas requires more community decision making with regards to land use and caring for community members.

Actually it's simpler than that. It's Because Socialism works best, that is, Is actually sustainable in many cases. But only when you have a Very Large Tightly packed population that you can provide services to, and garner income from very Efficiently.

That, and of course because larger city inevitably means much larger populations of the Very poor, and poor, who naturally are going to lean toward Socialism.

Duh.

There is actually a Detachment mentally I associated with some Liberals from Big Cities. They have all these ideas they think can save us all, and indeed some of them, Like electric Cars, High Speed Rail Etc, Walking or Biking to work. Etc. Work very well, and are popular in large cities. The Problems is a Shit ton of us live in Areas that are much more spread out, and less densely Populated. Places where Things like Rail Based Public Transportation, or Even Buses, Are extremely Expensive and impractical. Places where Riding a Bike to work would require an 8 Hour Commute, and where an electric Car that goes 40 Miles is Absolutely Worthless, and where it gets so damn cold in the winter the Very Idea of your Mode of Transportation relying on Electric/Battery Power seem Dangerous.

 

[thereisnospoon]

People with more exposure to those who are different are generally more tolerant.

Cities have more educated people.

Those would be my guesses.

I chuckle at the generalizations from the left.
The assumption that educated people live in cities and therefore the suburbs and rural areas are reserved for the "uneducated".....Hogwash.

It's a simple fact that the average level of education is higher in urban areas than rural ones.

Why are you excluding suburban areas?

 

[starcraftzzz]

I chuckle at the generalizations from the left.
The assumption that educated people live in cities and therefore the suburbs and rural areas are reserved for the "uneducated".....Hogwash.

It's a simple fact that the average level of education is higher in urban areas than rural ones.

Why are you excluding suburban areas?

You mean areas that are more urban that rural ones. ROTFL

 

[thereisnospoon]

you must have missed my point. Let's take zoning and land use planning: Governments in densely populated areas are much more involved in zoning and land use restrictions. That's because people living in more densely populated areas have a greater need for an established set of community norms related to the issue.

They do? Since when? Groupthink shit again? Putting one group over another and thier lives? Rural people count for_________________?

Pretty damned elitist view Karl.

You really are this dumb, aren't ya? YES, Thomas- more densely populated areas require more community decision around issues such as land use. This is self-evident to anyone with a double digit IQ. IF there are 10 miles between me and my nearest neighbor, I naturally have less concern about how my neighbor uses his or her land than if I'm 10 feet away.

Unbelievable stupidity, but par for the course for two-step.

Your premise is false.
10 miles away...Where? Wyoming?

 

[SniperFire]

why are big cities more liberal'

It's where the queers and the brothers all live, silly!

 

[thereisnospoon]

It's a simple fact that the average level of education is higher in urban areas than rural ones.

Why are you excluding suburban areas?

You mean areas that are more urban that rural ones. ROTFL

No I MEAN suburban areas.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Illusion of Free Stuff

 

[thereisnospoon]

Of course, the minorities vote Dem because they know where the racists are, so “why are cities Dem” should really be the question…

No...They know where the free shit comes from. Democrats.

 

[blackhawk]

I live in a big city it's not all that liberal I would say it depends on what state the big city is in if it's in a state that tends to lean liberal there is a good chance the city will as well same with the city's in states that tend to lean conservative.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Imaginative, educated people have been moving out of our Hootervilles for the big city for a long time, I have lived in big cities and remote locations and country people are a lot more rigid and unimaginative, and frankly, more boring.

Yes. Boring. Since when is it your neighbor's job to keep you entertained?
It is amazing how you libs deride those who dare to violate your smart growth/new urbanist codes.
Instead of explaining the differences between rural, suburban and urban dwellers, you consider urban dwellers to be "better".
Now, who of us is touting the conformist mantra?
If it were to you people, we'd all be highly educated living in high rise government subsidized tenements. Private vehicle ownership and home ownership would be prohibited.
Look, people escaped the cities in the mid 20th century due to new prosperity, the desire to raise their children in relatively safe environments with parks, back yards and above all good schools.
Most American cities are crime infested shit holes run by crooked politicians. Taxes are confiscatory. The welfare ranks overflowing. Police depts and prosecutors offices are strained to the breaking point. Criminals are put back on the street because city budgets are tapped out and there's no room in the jails to keep these predators.
Tax bases are ever shrinking. And in states ( Florida is an example) where cities can freely gobble up neighboring territory, the cities are still suffering budget shortfalls.
So you can take your urban utopia and stick it where the sun don't shine.
And don't give me this shit about racism either. Suburbanization of blacks and Hispanics is at it's highest ever.
I am sick and tired of the yuppie **** Left telling me I am a bad person because I don't fit their PC template.
I don't give a rat's ass what those people think.

 

[8537]

I chuckle at the generalizations from the left.
The assumption that educated people live in cities and therefore the suburbs and rural areas are reserved for the "uneducated".....Hogwash.

It's a simple fact that the average level of education is higher in urban areas than rural ones.

Why are you excluding suburban areas?

Because the most easily accessible census data doesn't cut it that direction.

The rural areas are less educated than the urban areas, so the assumption you dismiss is not "hogwash", it's fact.

 

[8537]

They do? Since when? Groupthink shit again? Putting one group over another and thier lives? Rural people count for_________________?

Pretty damned elitist view Karl.

You really are this dumb, aren't ya? YES, Thomas- more densely populated areas require more community decision around issues such as land use. This is self-evident to anyone with a double digit IQ. IF there are 10 miles between me and my nearest neighbor, I naturally have less concern about how my neighbor uses his or her land than if I'm 10 feet away.

Unbelievable stupidity, but par for the course for two-step.

Your premise is false.
10 miles away...Where? Wyoming?

It doesn't matter how far away - I was making a point that obviously flew past. The more dense a population, the more important community norms and policies are in managing the community.

If houses are 10 miles apart community members will have very little interest in their neighbors house or how they use it. You can play music as loud as you'd like!

if they are 10 feet apart the neighbors start to worry when you turn the music up so loud that it amplifies thru the neighborhood.

When your walls are 10 inches apart the neighbors have a vested interest in how loud you play music and other facets of community living.

 

[Intense]

I wanna hear your reasons why. What is the main reason ?

More Free Shit.

 

[Avatar4321]

more racist whites tend to stay away from minorities so they tend leave the cities to be with more whites

You do realize that doesnt answer the question in the slightest sense, right?

 

[Dante]

I wanna hear your reasons why. What is the main reason ?

education breeds liberalism in most rational beings

why are suburbs so lily white?

white flight from urban areas

 

[Avatar4321]

more racist whites tend to stay away from minorities so they tend leave the cities to be with more whites

Well I'm black, and I moved out of the big city so that I'd have much better odds of not running into vapid douchebags like you of any race, class, whatever. Not to mention cleaner air, less violence, more polite and friendly people who look out for each other. Yes, most of my neighbors are white and I've yet to be called a ****** by anyone in the 5 years I've been out this way, while I atleast got called one 3 times a week in the city by some fat white neck bearded democrat party voting asshole with union bumper stickers on his car. I'll take these stereo typically "racist" country white folks over a bunch of pants sagging street thugs that are supposed to be "my brothers" that I have to worry about getting shot or mugged by any day of the week. You can keep your big shitty diversity.

I completely understand where you are coming from. A close friend of mine recently moved out of the city. After his house was shot up by random gang related violence twice he had to get his family out of there. I cringe when people say that people in big cities are more tolerant or better educated. The evidence Ive seen goes contrary to that.

 

[MikeK]

I wanna hear your reasons why. What is the main reason ?

That is an interesting question. I've been picking at it for awhile now and can't seem to get a grip on it. I believe the reason is I'm not sure what you mean by "liberal," which is one of those words being tossed about so much today they've come to mean different things to different people.

Please be more specific about what you mean by "liberal."

 

[Avatar4321]

There's two sides to this.

On the "social" side, living in a big city exposes you to more diversity. It's hard to hate gays or minorities, or pigeon-hole them into preconceived stereotypes when you grow up around them, go to school with them, and get to know them.

On the "economic" side, infrastructure has a lot to do with it. Police, Fire, Public Transportation, etc. Taxes are (completely reasonably) higher in cities, and "government" is more obvious. It's easy to see everything the "government" does as "evil" when you live in the middle of nowhere, but when you rely on public transportation and public police and fire departments to function, you have a different perspective.

I dont get this at all. How is it hard to hate someone or stereotype them in a city? It's usually far worse in the city specifically because you are around them all the time and when you dont like someone you are around alot it's easier to dehumanize them to justify your dislike.

 

[Avatar4321]

I wanna hear your reasons why. What is the main reason ?

1. they're more diverse, so generally more tolerant.
2. they have to work together more
3. bigger problems requiring bigger solutions
4. more population to provide infrastructure and services for
5. greater numbers of more educated people and more access to culture as well as large working class and poorer populations.

And yet they choose to be liberals and thus do none of the things youve just outlined.