Whose name do you use for the first commandment?

Then without the clutter of false beliefs, unsubstantiated assumptions, prejudices, and misinformation, you will see God.
Made me LOL.

A real apotheosis has a person in tears, from start to finish, as he or she suffers the pains of enlightenment.

If you saw God, you were not looking with the right eyes.
 
Don't be silly Stan. Its not a judgenmnt, its a fact. If God exists his thoughts have to be by definition higher. There is only so much a human mind can handle and by the look of things going on here, that ain't much.

Do you speak to a child the same way you speak to an adult?

damn.
Your " facts " are not true in this world nor any other. They are just beliefs. Fortunately not everyone tries to think like you do.
 
Does the bible advising to put away the things of children not include supernatural thinking to you?
There is nothing supernatural about the conclusion that if God is incorporeal then a person must purify and refine their own mind, which is the only thing incorporeal in a human being, in order to "see", perceive, God.


No one can help anyone who will not help themselves. I told you what you need to do. Do or don't do.


Do you not recognize that if you had a proof of concept for one such God, it would also be proving that Yahweh, a genocidal prick, was seeing many Gods when he commands to not put a better God above him.
That is a nonsequitor. God was not seeing many gods, he was addressing human beings beliefs in many gods.

BTW, there are many hominids that went extinct. If you knew what they were like would be happy about that.
 
A real apotheosis has a person in tears, from start to finish, as he or she suffers the pains of enlightenment.
You are confused. A real apotheosis has a person in ecstasy. There is no pain in enlightenment, only joy.

See? Your mind is filled with falsehoods. No wonder you can't perceive God.
 
Your " facts " are not true in this world nor any other. They are just beliefs. Fortunately not everyone tries to think like you do.
If I was never born into this world it would still be a fact that adult people speak differently to children than they do to each other. Many times adults intentionally speak way above the heads of children, and for good reasons.

This is not a judgment or a belief. Its a fact.

What planet are you from?

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There is nothing supernatural about the conclusion that if God is incorporeal then a person must purify and refine their own mind, which is the only thing incorporeal in a human being, in order to "see", perceive, God.


No one can help anyone who will not help themselves. I told you what you need to do. Do or don't do.



That is a nonsequitor. God was not seeing many gods, he was addressing human beings beliefs in many gods.

BTW, there are many hominids that went extinct. If you knew what they were like would be happy about that.
Homo Sapiens were simply more savage and aggressive than the other hominids , that's why they survived. That is not a compliment. Look at what we continue to do to each other and totally shit on the planet ( our home ).
 
Homo Sapiens were simply more savage and aggressive than the other hominids , that's why they survived. That is not a compliment. Look at what we continue to do to each other and totally shit on the planet ( our home ).
Funny how you referred to Homo sapiens as they and then said," Look at what we continue to do to each other and totally shit on the planet ( our home )." I think the problem lies with whoever or whatever we is.

I am not a part of that we.
 
Funny how you referred to Homo sapiens as they and then said," Look at what we continue to do to each other and totally shit on the planet ( our home )." I think the problem lies with whoever or whatever we is.

I am not a part of that we.
Although neanderthal DNA exists in some of the homo sapiens of today. We all exist in this world in homo sapien bodies.
 
You are confused. A real apotheosis has a person in ecstasy. There is no pain in enlightenment, only joy.

See? Your mind is filled with falsehoods. No wonder you can't perceive God.
I am experienced. The stupid ignore our dualistic nature and you show your worthlessness here. The supernatural is for the stupid.
 
I am experienced. The stupid ignore our dualistic nature and you show your worthlessness here. The supernatural is for the stupid.
I said nothing about anything supernatural. You claimed apotheosis is a painful experience and "has a person in tears, from start to finish, as he or she suffers the pains of enlightenment." (which sounds just like hell to me)

And I responded, "A real apotheosis has a person in ecstasy. There is no pain in enlightenment, only joy."

Your experience seems to be one of confusion. Whatever YOUR dualistic nature is you should consider that you will never experience a real apotheosis unless you overcome your base instincts and become one "living being".

Claiming to have a dualist nature is a way of admitting hypocrisy. No wonder you are in tears from start to finish as you suffer pains. You have confused descending into Gehenna for an amazing spiritual experience, and it is a spiritual experience.

Its just not a very good one stunad.

Enjoy!
 
Although neanderthal DNA exists in some of the homo sapiens of today. We all exist in this world in homo sapien bodies.
Some? Not exactly. Blacks, Puerto Ricans, and Spaniards have the least Neanderthal DNA, 0-1 percent, 1.05 percent and 1.07 percent respectively, other europeans 1.8-2.4 percent. Asians have the most 2.3–2.6 percent.

That being said there is evidence of there being 20-30 extinct human species.
 
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Some? Not exactly. Blacks, Puerto Ricans, and Spaniards have the least Neanderthal DNA, 0-1 percent, 1.05 percent and 1.07 percent respectively, other europeans 1.8-2.4 percent. Asians have the most 2.3–2.6 percent.

That being said there is evidence of there being 20-30 extinct human species.
Basically 100% of the world population has neanderthal DNA in its genes but as you pointed out that % is extremely low. The absorption of the Neanderthals must have occurred early in our history ( 47,000 to 65,000 years ago.)
 
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Basically 100% of the world population has neanderthal DNA in its genes but as you pointed out that % is extremely low. The absorption of the Neanderthals must have occurred early in our history ( 47,000 to 65,000 years ago.)
Ok, now that thats settled, don't you agree that what makes a person human has less to do with the physical body than it has to do what is going on in the mind. With the current state of affairs and liberty in chaos, it seems that many people have lost the sapiens part of being human and are devolving into strange spineless creatures.

With a predilection for bending over and kissing orange asses. I think its time for a new classification.


Homo Stultus.
 
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Ok, now that thats settled, don't you agree that what makes a person human has less to do with the physical body than it has to do what is going on in the mind. With the current state of affairs and liberty in chaos, it seems that many people have lost the sapiens part of being human and are devolving into strange spineless creatures.

With a predilection for bending over and kissing orange asses. I think its time for a new classification.

Homo Stultus.
I personally KNOW that what makes these physical forms " human " ( somewhat humane ) is the fact that " we " " spirits " can reside in them. Otherwise they would simply be another animal form on this planet.
 
I personally KNOW that what makes these physical forms " human " ( somewhat humane ) is the fact that " we " " spirits " can reside in them. Otherwise they would simply be another animal form on this planet.
And by what means do you think this came about, that "spirits" can reside in this physical form that separates humans from the rest of the animals on this planet, or is that assertion that people are different just vanity?
 
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And by what means do you think this came about, that "spirits" can reside in this physical form that separates humans from the rest of the animals on this planet, or is that assertion that people are different just vanity?
Jesus had a lot more f things right but he was looking mited by the speech and knowledge of the time when he expressed himself. He said " My father's kingdom the snot of this earth. " That is absolutely correct what many people call Heaven exists in a parallel universe. The energy / light beings of that world can access this world and have for tens of thousands of years. It allows them the pleasure of leading lives as individuals and we ves to rejuvenate them in a way. Essentially we are all aspects of God.
 
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That is absolutely correct what many people call Heaven exists in a parallel universe. The energy / light beings of that world can access this world and have for tens of thousands of years.
I agree. However, the human mind is very capable, if properly prepared, to experience heaven on earth, the bridge between realities being the conscious mind, the only thing that is incorporeal in human beings...
 
I agree. However, the human mind is very capable, if properly prepared, to experience heaven on earth, the bridge between realities being the consciousness, the only thing that incorporeal, in humans.
Correct , we create our own heaven or hell on this earth. Again Jesus implied that also. It's how we choose to live. I am having a great life because ai choose people over things , love over hate. It's all about what we choose.
 
I said nothing about anything supernatural. You claimed apotheosis is a painful experience and "has a person in tears, from start to finish, as he or she suffers the pains of enlightenment." (which sounds just like hell to me)

And I responded, "A real apotheosis has a person in ecstasy. There is no pain in enlightenment, only joy."

Your experience seems to be one of confusion. Whatever YOUR dualistic nature is you should consider that you will never experience a real apotheosis unless you overcome your base instincts and become one "living being".

Claiming to have a dualist nature is a way of admitting hypocrisy. No wonder you are in tears from start to finish as you suffer pains. You have confused descending into Gehenna for an amazing spiritual experience, and it is a spiritual experience.

Its just not a very good one stunad.

Enjoy!
All based on you not noticing that I said tears of pleasure and pain.

If you just get the good, you just got high and not elevated.
 

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