Who let the DOGE out?

[Votto]

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The U.S. Department of Education has allocated more than $1 billion toward Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives in schools since 2021, according to a report by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.

The figures, shared in a post on X detail expenditures on race-based hiring, DEI programming, and mental health initiatives.


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The analysis, which cites data from the grassroots organization Parents Defending Education, reveals the following breakdown:

・$489.8 million for race-based hiring.

・$343.3 million for DEI programming.

・$169.3 million for DEI mental health initiatives.

In total, over $1 billion in grant funding has been distributed since 2021.

Parents Defending Education, which advocates for depoliticized classrooms and transparency in school funding, highlighted specific examples of DEI-related spending in schools:

・A $4 million grant for a three-week residential, culturally responsive computer science summer camp for 600 high school students.

・$1.26 million to the University of Iowa for training 40 elementary teachers in equity-centered education for partner K-12 districts.

・$306,209 awarded to the University of Missouri-St. Louis to train school counselors in Trauma-Informed, Antiracist Social-Emotional Learning (TIAR-SEL).

Why not just do away with the Department of political correctness and be done with it?

In fact, what good has the Department of Education even done in the past?

 

[kyzr]

Trump said at the press conference that the $2T that Vivek and Elon will cut won't even be noticed by most people,

 

[Meister]

Give education back to the states where it used to be. At least there are several states that
will be giving the children a proper education,
Reading
Writing
Arithmetic
History
etc.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Trump said at the press conference that the $2T that Vivek and Elon will cut won't even be noticed by most people,

$6T budget. Either he doesn't understand math or he is BSing you.

 

[Votto]

Give education back to the states where it used to be. At least there are several states that
will be giving the children a proper education,
Reading
Writing
Arithmetic
History
etc.

I would like for democrats to explain to us how the Department of Education has improved education.

If so, how? Why is education in the US so terrible comparted to the rest of the world?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Butbutbutbut the children!

 

[Meister]

I would like for democrats to explain to us how the Department of Education has improved education.

If so, how? Why is education in the US so terrible comparted to the rest of the world?

Our education system has become an indoctrination camp, thanks to the teacher's union.
I remember when they used to flunk students who failed in proficiency, not any longer.

 

[SeaMajor7]

I would like for democrats to explain to us how the Department of Education has improved education.

If so, how? Why is education in the US so terrible comparted to the rest of the world?

The demented LEFT Marxist ASSHOLES want to deliberately dumb down the population.

 

[Silent Warrior]

I would like for democrats to explain to us how the Department of Education has improved education.

If so, how? Why is education in the US so terrible comparted to the rest of the world?

They have improved education by making sure modern children can't read cursive, tell time on a clock dial or drive a stick shift. Those things were replaced by teaching them how to determine what false pronouns to use, how to get offended by not getting their way, and relying on the government for all things.

 

[NetJedi]

In fact, what good has the Department of Education even done in the past?

It's more appropriate to ask how much harm the DoE has caused in the past and how much more are we going to tolerate, since its inception U.S. education related expenditures have dramatically increased, and actual performance has dramatically decreased, thus keeping it around would constitute a perfect match for Einsteins definition of insanity.

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." -- Attributed to Albert Einstein

 

[Zincwarrior]

DOE is 4% of the total budget. The vast majority of that is Federal student aid. Thumbnailing but ~2% of the 4% is student aid. Making it more "efficient might save you a couple dozens of millions but thats it. Getting rid of student aid is deleterious to voting chances in the future...

 

[kyzr]

$6T budget. Either he doesn't understand math or he is BSing you.

Actually its fairly obvious. Trump had to pay for the Covid expenses, but instead of going back to the pre-Covid budgets Biden and the democrats just kept using CRs and used the excess as a slush fund. The only legit add is interest on the debt, that went from $379b in 20121 to about $1,000b in 2025. So go back to the 2019 Budget and add for interest, that's $5T instead of $7.3T. QED.

Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $6.9T (add to Debt)
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T (add to Debt)
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit
Trump's 2018 Budget was $4.10T with a $0.8T deficit

 

[kyzr]

Our education system has become an indoctrination camp, thanks to the teacher's union.
I remember when they used to flunk students who failed in proficiency, not any longer.

Do you remember the "Regents Exam"?

 

[1srelluc]

Our education system has become an indoctrination camp, thanks to the teacher's union.
I remember when they used to flunk students who failed in proficiency, not any longer.

I read the other day that Virginia is one of the few states left that requires a proficiency exam to graduate HS.

Yep.

Just seven states now require students to pass a test to graduate, and one of those — New York — will end its Regents Exam as a requirement by the 2027-28 school year. Florida, Louisiana, New Jersey, Ohio, Texas and Virginia still require testing to graduate, according to the National Center for Fair and Open Testing, a group that opposes such mandates.

High school exit exams dwindle to about half a dozen states

Jill Norton, an education policy adviser in Massachusetts, has a teenage son with dyslexia and ADHD. Shelley Scruggs, an electrical engineer in the same state, also has a teenage son with ADHD. Both students go to the same technical high school. But this fall, Norton and Scruggs advocated on...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

Actually its fairly obvious. Trump had to pay for the Covid expenses, but instead of going back to the pre-Covid budgets Biden and the democrats just kept using CRs and used the excess as a slush fund. The only legit add is interest on the debt, that went from $379b in 20121 to about $1,000b in 2025. So go back to the 2019 Budget and add for interest, that's $5T instead of $7.3T. QED.

Biden’s 2025 Budget is $7.30T with a $1.8T deficit______TOTAL BIDEN $6.9T (add to Debt)
Biden’s 2024 Budget was $7.30T with a $2.0T deficit
Biden's 2023 Budget was $6.13T with a $1.7T deficit
Biden's 2022 Budget was $6.27T with a $1.4T deficit
Trump's 2021 Budget was $6.82T with a $2.8T deficit___ TOTAL TRUMP $7.6T (add to Debt)
Trump's 2020 Budget was $6.55T with a $3.1T deficit
Trump's 2019 Budget was $4.40T with a $0.9T deficit
Trump's 2018 Budget was $4.10T with a $0.8T deficit

Yes. Simple until you realize that means lower Social Security payments, Medicare payments, Medicaid payments, military spending and salaries, Agricultural subsidies, etc. etc. Then their lobbyists get on the phone...

 

[kyzr]

DOE is 4% of the total budget. The vast majority of that is Federal student aid. Thumbnailing but ~2% of the 4% is student aid. Making it more "efficient might save you a couple dozens of millions but thats it. Getting rid of student aid is deleterious to voting chances in the future...

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That top line. Should so many kids go to college and incur that massive Debt?

Would 2-year degrees in a Community College suffice?

What jobs does industry say will be hard to fill going forward? Is the German system more efficient and effective?

I hope Elon and Vivek take a look and talk with the Purdue head who has experience in Ed and wants to improve the system. I just saw him on Wall Street Week and like his ideas.

 

[NetJedi]

Getting rid of student aid is deleterious to voting chances in the future...

You don't have to get rid of it, just block grant it directly to the States and eliminate the DoE middleman.

Push the authority for all education related decisions back down closer to the people that are actually affected by those decisions, instead of centralizing them in a remote bureaucracy.

 

[Zincwarrior]

That top line. Should so many kids go to college and incur that massive Debt?

Wouldn't that be up to them? Which members of the House and Senate are going to kill it?

Would 2-year degrees in a Community College suffice?

Still costs money. I know (I did).

What jobs does industry say will be hard to fill going forward? Is the German system more efficient and effective?

YES! It is a much more efficient distributor of education. Note the German system is similar in some form to most educational systems in Europe.

I hope Elon and Vivek take a look and talk with the Purdue head who has experience in Ed and wants to improve the system.

I am sure president Musk will give it his full attention.

An interesting note: 4% of the budget is for salaries and benefits. Wipe it all out and replace with droids and you are still blowing out the budget.

 

[Zincwarrior]

You don't have to get rid of it, just block grant it directly to the States and eliminate the DoE middleman.

Congrats. you have saved 4% if you did that for all government spending. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/who-are-us-federal-workers-that-trump-musk-want-trim-2024-11-19/
Beware: block grants don't usually get used for their intended purpose...

Note: I am for more efficient government but I have heard that song and dance since Nixon.

 

[DonGlock26]

Take the savings and pay down the debt to lower inflation.