Who is a Jordanian and why all pali's are Jordanians

[Boston1]

Classic example of cognitive dissonance.

The subject is who is a Jordanian and why all pali's within the Jordanian sphere of influence in the 1949 time frame are Jordanians retroactively from 1928 on.

Go

Right, you first heard the expression here from me, and have no clue how to use it. LOL

Your continual inability to discuss the subject matter is indicative of your failed argument. Thus the constant lies and distractions.

There is no such thing as a palestinian. They are all Jordanians dating back to 1928. Prior to that they are Syrians.

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In 1949, the Jordanian Council of Ministers added an article to their Citizenship Law of 1928 that read

All those who at the time when this Law goes into effect habitually reside in Transjordan or in the Western part [of the Jordan] which is being administered by [the Kingdom], and who were holders of Palestinian citizenship, shall be deemed as Jordanians enjoying all rights of Jordanians and bearing all the attendant obligations.

— [14]

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[Roudy]

When did Likud remove its intention of ruling from the Jordan to the sea from its charter?

"The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.

b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace."

Original Party Platform of the Likud Party | Jewish Virtual Library

You comparing that to the IslamoNazi Hamas Charter, that calls for the destruction of Israel and disavows any peace until this goal has been achieved?

 

[Roudy]

Classic example of cognitive dissonance.

The subject is who is a Jordanian and why all pali's within the Jordanian sphere of influence in the 1949 time frame are Jordanians retroactively from 1928 on.

Go

Right, you first heard the expression here from me, and have no clue how to use it. LOL

Your continual inability to discuss the subject matter is indicative of your failed argument. Thus the constant lies and distractions.

There is no such thing as a palestinian. They are all Jordanians dating back to 1928. Prior to that they are Syrians.

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In 1949, the Jordanian Council of Ministers added an article to their Citizenship Law of 1928 that read

All those who at the time when this Law goes into effect habitually reside in Transjordan or in the Western part [of the Jordan] which is being administered by [the Kingdom], and who were holders of Palestinian citizenship, shall be deemed as Jordanians enjoying all rights of Jordanians and bearing all the attendant obligations.

— [14]

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There is no doubt that in 1922, Arabs were given Jordan as "Arab Palestine" and Israel was to be Jewish Palestine. Arabs took the Jordan, but then Jordan and five other Arab countries attacked the newly formed state of Israel to destroy it. The most common misconception has been that this conflict is about "giving the Arabs their land back" yet every time that's happened, the opposite can be concluded. This conflict is a religious war, and part of Islam's desire to conquer all lands to be under it's rule.

 

[Billo_Really]

Here's the other bullshit troll thread. Only in this one, its the Israeli's trying to wipe out the Pals by having them magically move to Jordan. It doesn't matter how much lipstick you put on that pig, it's still ethnic cleansing.

You gotta love the irrational Zionist narrative. While they are actively trying to wipe out the Pal, they're claiming that it is the Pals, who are trying to wipe out them.

You fuckers are all over the map! And its probably not even your map.

 

[montelatici]

Classic example of cognitive dissonance.

The subject is who is a Jordanian and why all pali's within the Jordanian sphere of influence in the 1949 time frame are Jordanians retroactively from 1928 on.

Go

Right, you first heard the expression here from me, and have no clue how to use it. LOL

Your continual inability to discuss the subject matter is indicative of your failed argument. Thus the constant lies and distractions.

There is no such thing as a palestinian. They are all Jordanians dating back to 1928. Prior to that they are Syrians.

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In 1949, the Jordanian Council of Ministers added an article to their Citizenship Law of 1928 that read

All those who at the time when this Law goes into effect habitually reside in Transjordan or in the Western part [of the Jordan] which is being administered by [the Kingdom], and who were holders of Palestinian citizenship, shall be deemed as Jordanians enjoying all rights of Jordanians and bearing all the attendant obligations.

— [14]

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PALESTINE.
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CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.​

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Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:​

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HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.

Sir,

We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.....If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

________________________________________________________________________________________________

The Colonial Office to the Palestine Arab Delegation.


DOWNING STREET,
1st March, 1922.


SIR,

I am directed by Mr. Secretary Churchill to acknowledge receipt of your letter of the 21st February on the subject of the draft Orders in Council providing for the Constitution of Palestine. Mr. Churchill has carefully considered this letter and has instructed me to offer the following observations upon it:—

2. ......It is with the object of providing the people of Palestine with a constitutional channel for the expression of their opinions and wishes that the draft constitution has been framed."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

I think you need to speak plainly.

Classic example of cognitive dissonance.

The subject is who is a Jordanian and why all pali's within the Jordanian sphere of influence in the 1949 time frame are Jordanians retroactively from 1928 on.

Go

Right, you first heard the expression here from me, and have no clue how to use it. LOL

Your continual inability to discuss the subject matter is indicative of your failed argument. Thus the constant lies and distractions.

There is no such thing as a palestinian. They are all Jordanians dating back to 1928. Prior to that they are Syrians.

Quote

In 1949, the Jordanian Council of Ministers added an article to their Citizenship Law of 1928 that read

All those who at the time when this Law goes into effect habitually reside in Transjordan or in the Western part [of the Jordan] which is being administered by [the Kingdom], and who were holders of Palestinian citizenship, shall be deemed as Jordanians enjoying all rights of Jordanians and bearing all the attendant obligations.

— [14]

End Quote

PALESTINE.

CORRESPONDENCE
WITH THE
PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION
AND THE
ZIONIST ORGANISATION.

Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty.
JUNE, 1922.
LONDON:
​

HOTEL CECIL,
London, W.C.,
February 21st, 1922.

Sir,

We wish to express our thanks to the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies, for his courtesy in allowing us to see the draft of a proposed Palestine Order in Council embodying a scheme of Government for Palestine, and to discuss the same in our capacity of representatives of the Arab People of Palestine.....If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration."

________________________________________________________________________________________________

The Colonial Office to the Palestine Arab Delegation.


DOWNING STREET,
1st March, 1922.


SIR,

I am directed by Mr. Secretary Churchill to acknowledge receipt of your letter of the 21st February on the subject of the draft Orders in Council providing for the Constitution of Palestine. Mr. Churchill has carefully considered this letter and has instructed me to offer the following observations upon it:—

2. ......It is with the object of providing the people of Palestine with a constitutional channel for the expression of their opinions and wishes that the draft constitution has been framed."

UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

(COMMENT)

You have emphasized the phrase "the people of Palestine." Palestine is a territory, defined by the Allied Powers. "Palestine" the territory has really no definite meaning outside the context of what the allies specify. It should be noted that the Paulet-Newcombe Boundary Commission did not submit the final report (as amended) of the survey until on 3 February 1922. It was NOT approved until 7 March 1923 (a year later), just prior to Britain and France assuming their formal Mandatory responsibilities on 29 September 1923.
Reference: Discussion in 'Israel and Palestine' started by pbel, Sep 17, 2015 Posting #81 and #83.

In June of 1922, the term "People of Palestine" referred to a location specified in Part III, Section VII --- Syria, Mesopotamia, and Palestine, Treaty of Sevres (1920), was defined on the basis of Treaty and the fact that "Turkey hereby renounces in favour of the Principal Allied Powers all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories outside Europe." This renouncement in favour of the Principal Allied Powers all rights and title was again stipulated in Article 16 of the 1924 Treaty of Lausanne :

ARTICLE 95 --- Part III Section VII:

The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

ARTICLE 96.

The terms of the mandates in respect of the above territories will be formulated by the Principal Allied Powers and submitted to the Council of the League of Nations for approval.

ARTICLE 97.

Turkey hereby undertakes, in accordance with the provisions of Article 132, to accept any decisions which may be taken in relation to the questions dealt with in this Section.
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The emphasized phrase --- "the People of Palestine" --- in the exchange of correspondence was not and could not make an effective change to the active Treaty at that time.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

Well very good, the people of Palestine considered themselves as such even before the survey was approved, in 1922. Thanks for your help Rocco, we have finally put to bed the Zionist myth that the Palestinians didn't exist until 1967.

 

[Roudy]

Here's the other bullshit troll thread. Only in this one, its the Israeli's trying to wipe out the Pals by having them magically move to Jordan. It doesn't matter how much lipstick you put on that pig, it's still ethnic cleansing.

You gotta love the irrational Zionist narrative. While they are actively trying to wipe out the Pal, they're claiming that it is the Pals, who are trying to wipe out them.

You fuckers are all over the map! And its probably not even your map.

Bigmouth with the low IQ forgets that Arabs starting with the Nazi Mufti were trying to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing on the Jews starting in the 1920's, and their bastard children aka Hamas calls for the genocide of Jews on a daily basis.

 

[Boston1]

Well very good, the people of Palestine considered themselves as such even before the survey was approved, in 1922. Thanks for your help Rocco, we have finally put to bed the Zionist myth that the Palestinians didn't exist until 1967.

You misunderstood completely Monty. "The people of palestine" is a catch all phrase that groups anyone within the boundary area as falling under the mandate. It does not denote in any way a nationality as there was no nation of palestine. It was a protectorate until such time as states could be formed.

"The people of palestine" reference is nothing more than a term applied to anyone within the boundary area and has nothing to do with ethnic cultural or national persuasion.

 

[montelatici]

LOL, nice try. It was the Palestinians that called themselves the people of Palestine, not just the British. By the way, there had been at least 2 Palestinian Congresses prior to the date of the correspondence with the British, starting in 1913.

Third Palestinian Congress, some of these figures formed part of the Palestinian Delegation to London, that corresponded with the Colonial Office.

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The third congress opened on 4 December. It was attended by 36 delegates, including Pasha Aref Dajani the Mayor of Jerusalem 1918 (seated fifth from the left next to Pasha Musa Kazem Husseini),[11] Sheik Suleiman al-Taji Al-Faruqi and head of the Catholic community Bullus Shehadeh. The congress was opened by Haifa's mufti, Muhammad Murad. Recently deposed mayor of Jerusalem Musa al-Husayni was elected president and chairman of the nine-member executive committee, a post he held until his death in 1934. The congress called for Palestine to be ruled under identical terms as those of the Mandate of Iraq, with a parliament elected by a one-citizen-one-vote system.[12] Other resolutions:

• Called for Palestine to be part of the independent Arab state promised in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence. Calls for unity with Syria were dropped, since the area was now under French control.
• Condemned the notion of a homeland for the Jewish people.
• Objected to the recognition of the World Zionist Organisation as an official body and the use of Hebrew as an official language.
• Opposed Jewish immigration.
• Declared the British administration illegal, since the League of Nations had not yet reached a decision about the status of the territory.

Palestine Arab Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Fishlore]

When did Likud remove its intention of ruling from the Jordan to the sea from its charter?

"The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.

b. A plan which relinquishes parts of western Eretz Israel, undermines our right to the country, unavoidably leads to the establishment of a "Palestinian State," jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population, endangers the existence of the State of Israel. and frustrates any prospect of peace."

Original Party Platform of the Likud Party | Jewish Virtual Library

Bibi's father was the head of the Revisionist Zionist Party, the origin of Likud. The RZP flirted with Mussolini's fascist state in Italy as a model for Zionist Israel. The more moderate wing of Zionism, guys like Weismann, backed the idea of a secular homeland for Jews as described in the Balfour Declaration. Fueled by ultra-Orthodox fanaticsm and understandable militarism, the Israel of the founders has moved steadily towards a kind of kosher national socialism.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Just remember that what the Palestinians considered themselves is not always the truth of the case.

Well very good, the people of Palestine considered themselves as such even before the survey was approved, in 1922. Thanks for your help Rocco, we have finally put to bed the Zionist myth that the Palestinians didn't exist until 1967.

(REFERENCE)

PAL/138 27 February 1948
UK MEMORANDUM NAMES COMMISSION AS SUCCESSOR GOVERNMENT

• 
  "Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.
  
  "After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.
  
  "Where the sovereignty of Palestine lies at the present time is a disputed and perhaps academic legal question about which writers have expressed a number of different conclusions. Where the sovereignty of Palestine will lie after the 15th May, 1948, is perhaps also a question on which different views will be held, but so far as His Majesty's Government are aware, it is a question which it is unnecessary to answer in connection with any practical issues.

(COMMENT)

Actually, between 30 October 1918 and 30 June 1920 the undefined territory called Palestine (not a political subdivision of its own) within the Ottoman Vilayets of Beruit and Damascus as well as the Mutasarrifiyet of Jerusalem, was under the Joint Enemy Occupied Territory Administration (EOTA). On 1 July 1920, the EOTA withdrew and released Palestine to the Civil Administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), the Government of Palestine and responsible for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.

Don't try to read more into the phrase than what is there. If what you imply was true, then the "Question of Palestine" would have been settled; but it is simply not that easy.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Just remember that what the Palestinians considered themselves is not always the truth of the case.

Well very good, the people of Palestine considered themselves as such even before the survey was approved, in 1922. Thanks for your help Rocco, we have finally put to bed the Zionist myth that the Palestinians didn't exist until 1967.

(REFERENCE)

PAL/138 27 February 1948
UK MEMORANDUM NAMES COMMISSION AS SUCCESSOR GOVERNMENT

• 
  "Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.
  
  "After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.
  
  "Where the sovereignty of Palestine lies at the present time is a disputed and perhaps academic legal question about which writers have expressed a number of different conclusions. Where the sovereignty of Palestine will lie after the 15th May, 1948, is perhaps also a question on which different views will be held, but so far as His Majesty's Government are aware, it is a question which it is unnecessary to answer in connection with any practical issues.

(COMMENT)

Actually, between 30 October 1918 and 30 June 1920 the undefined territory called Palestine (not a political subdivision of its own) within the Ottoman Vilayets of Beruit and Damascus as well as the Mutasarrifiyet of Jerusalem, was under the Joint Enemy Occupied Territory Administration (EOTA). On 1 July 1920, the EOTA withdrew and released Palestine to the Civil Administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), the Government of Palestine and responsible for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.

Don't try to read more into the phrase than what is there. If what you imply was true, then the "Question of Palestine" would have been settled; but it is simply not that easy.

Most Respectfully,
R

Don't conflate sovereignty with national identification. Kurds do not have sovereignty over any state, yet they exist. The Turks call them mountain Turks and claim they don't exist as a people, much like you and your friends claim that Palestinians don't exist. It is simply a Zionist myth.

 

[Boston1]

But the Kurds are a distinct people. The pali's are indistinguishable form Jordanians or for that matter Syrians.

IE

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You misunderstood completely Monty. "The people of palestine" is a catch all phrase that groups anyone within the boundary area as falling under the mandate. It does not denote in any way a nationality as there was no nation of palestine. It was a protectorate until such time as states could be formed.

"The people of palestine" reference is nothing more than a term applied to anyone within the boundary area and has nothing to do with ethnic cultural or national persuasion.

End Quote

 

[montelatici]

Palestinians are Levantines, mediterranean people. Native Jordanians are Bedouins. Syrians are a mixture of different people, hence the civil war. The Palestinian National Congress represented the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people exist, get over it. The Zionist myth that there are no Palestinians is simply a racist concept that helps justify the Zionist dispossession of the native people of Palestine.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Hmmm, --- Levantines, mediterranean people. I'm confused again!

Palestinians are Levantines, mediterranean people. Native Jordanians are Bedouins. Syrians are a mixture of different people, hence the civil war. The Palestinian National Congress represented the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people exist, get over it. The Zionist myth that there are no Palestinians is simply a racist concept that helps justify the Zionist dispossession of the native people of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

The Levantine Heritage Foundation is an association which promotes research, preservation and education in the heritage, arts and culture of the communities of the Levant region encompassed by the former Ottoman Empire between the 17th and 20th centuries. The peoples and communities who traded and settled in the area were diverse in origin and faiths, including Italians, French, British, many other Europeans and Americans.

I'm not sure that "Levantine" is a very good description of the "Palestinians."

The Turks and the Greeks say the Lavant Basin extends all the way to Cyprus and beyond...

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Boston1]

montelatici, et al,

Hmmm, --- Levantines, mediterranean people. I'm confused again!

Palestinians are Levantines, mediterranean people. Native Jordanians are Bedouins. Syrians are a mixture of different people, hence the civil war. The Palestinian National Congress represented the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people exist, get over it. The Zionist myth that there are no Palestinians is simply a racist concept that helps justify the Zionist dispossession of the native people of Palestine.

(COMMENT)

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The Levantine Heritage Foundation is an association which promotes research, preservation and education in the heritage, arts and culture of the communities of the Levant region encompassed by the former Ottoman Empire between the 17th and 20th centuries. The peoples and communities who traded and settled in the area were diverse in origin and faiths, including Italians, French, British, many other Europeans and Americans.

I'm not sure that "Levantine" is a very good description of the "Palestinians."

The Turks and the Greeks say the Lavant Basin extends all the way to Cyprus and beyond...

Most Respectfully,
R

Well thats entertaining, So the people Monty wants us to believe are the palestinians are actually of mixed European descent

Busted LMAO

 

[Billo_Really]

Bigmouth with the low IQ forgets that Arabs starting with the Nazi Mufti were trying to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing on the Jews starting in the 1920's, and their bastard children aka Hamas calls for the genocide of Jews on a daily basis.

You call for genocide of the Pals, more than the two of them put together.

In 32,924 posts of yours, not one has been about making peace with the Pals.

You and your fellow Israeli kiss-asses, keep coming up with scam after scam to drum up hatred for the Pals and this thread is just another one in a long line. You're trying to exterminate them by calling them Jordanians.

It's funny watching you call them "animals", with every barbaric post you upload.

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

Are you sure?

In 32,924 posts of yours, not one has been about making peace with the Pals.

(OBSERVATION)

The Khartoum Resolution passed by the Arab League in the wake of the 1967 : ---"Three Nos" in the third paragraph:

• No peace with Israel,
• No recognition of Israel, and
• No negotiations with Israel.

EXCERPTS FROM: “The Islamists in the Arab World and the Palestinian Issue, In Light of the Arab Uprisings,” (2012)
By: Mr Khalid Mishaal, the Chief of the Political Bureau of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas):

Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights, together with, of course, all forms of political and diplomatic struggle including in the media, public and legal [spheres]; with the need to mobilize all the energies of the nation in the battle

Any progressive tactical or detailed political program must be in line with the national Palestinian fundamentals that we have mentioned and may not go against or contradict them. Moreover, every partial or full judgement must be subject to this principle, and therefore, we reject any projects, agreements or peace settlements that diminish these fundamentals and principles and affects national Palestinian rights.

The peace settlement agreements and the positions of the countries that hold them, is certainly a heavy legacy that needs to be reconsidered. However, the question is how; in what way, and in which time context? What is so important now that it must be done. Political settlements and agreements with “Israel” are unfair to the nation and Palestine, they are not an advantage or inherent, nor is this a normal situation. “Israel” is not and will not be a friend or a neighbour, but an enemy not only to the Palestinians, but to the nation as a whole. If we characterize the agreements as such, we must make it a priority to address the relations, contact and normalization with the Israeli occupier. This is unacceptable, especially in light of the great Arab Spring, because at this point, the nation’s leaders must realise that the anger of their people is not only a result of internal policies, but also a result of the nation’s shame and weak position, policies, and strategies in terms of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
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EXCERPTS FROM: Three Roles of the Arab Peace Initiative (API)
By Walid Salem 29/01/2015.

Furthermore, the API cannot be used to bring in Arab countries to insert pressure on the Palestinians to make compromises. President Abbas and the Palestinian leadership have already made all the concessions needed, yet the response by Israel has been more settlement expansion and more extremist positions in contradiction to any agreement with the Palestinian leadership.

Therefore pressure of the API should be placed on Israel and not the Palestinians. One way to do so is by elevating Palestine in the UN to create better negotiation position for the Palestinians with Israel in any coming negotiations, in addition to other incentives (both positive and negative) that the Arabs can use to move the Israeli stances forward.
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(COMMENT)

As you can see, this is all about the Arab Palestinians.

The Arab Palestinians want to exclude the Israelis from access to Religiously significant sites in Jerusalem. Now that the Israelis have the access, it is unlikely that they will trust the word of the Arab Palestinian regarding their role in Jerusalem.

The Arab Palestinians want to portray themselves as the victims, and that the Occupation is both cruel and humiliatingly restrictive. If that is so,it is of their own making.

Most Respectfully,
R