who here thinks George Forman's family should continue getting his SS payments?

[CowboyTed]

yes, of course. but we are talking about the payments to the dead person. Do you really believe that thousands of americans are over 130 years old?

Work on computer systems which hold customer/citizens data...

We don't delete data if we can, So having people in the system who are 150 years is quite normal... But what is on there Date of Death field or Death Flag field?

We hold the information for enquires and reporting...

This just showed us how poor the DOGE team is... it is pretty normal stuff for us to have expired account holders in the database... The systems they are using do not use Archiving systems like we have been doing for the last 10-20 years... I say it is been built on a Mainframe system (maybe AS400) with a website slapped on top (i.e. lipstick on a pig)...

The reason we know DOGE are poor is simple. They didn't think, if we have loads of fraudlent payments going out, how have we no leaked information of it... If we see a massive issue like this we would expect to information from other sources like people reporting fraud (suprise you how many honest people are out there) or cheques returned...
Senior IT people know this and we have seen it for years... This is the difference..

 

[WorldWatcher]

Hypothetically, do you have a problem with a wife getting survivor benefits from payments that went to her husband, now deceased, if she has no other means of income?

On the larger matter of the viability of the SS trust, I would not be opposed to means testing for SS. I have an older friend who is getting her dead husband's SS ($2,100 a month) due to a survivor benefit built in to the system. But she is worth over $2M and has income from rental properties. I'd have no problem ending that payment.

IMHO

Assets? No.

Income? Possibily, but it should be a pretty high number starting at somewhere between 500,000 - 1,000,000

I say this because we went through 15 years of long term debilitating decease with my MIL. She had SS as the only income, but had a house on an acre of land from the 1950s. (This was in California.) She finally was forced to sell the house, the money was put into a Trust, and that paid for her long term medical care. We're talking $10,000 a month just for assisted living, not including basic living expenses (food, clothing, utilities, etc.).

A million dollars in that situation get eaten up pretty quickly.

WW

 

[jknowgood]

Foreman earned it.
His heirs deserve it.

He was a career criminal. Probably never had a job.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

LIb and dems do not seem to care about SS payments going to dead people, so this is a valid question.

If it's a married couple, I would not mind if the surviving partner received the other ones SS until their death.
I mean, most people of age need all the money they can get nowadays.

But other than that, no. Nobody else should be getting their money.
Not even the legions of Democrat voters..............

 

[WorldWatcher]

Work on computer systems which hold customer/citizens data...

We don't delete data if we can, So having people in the system who are 150 years is quite normal... But what is on there Date of Death field or Death Flag field?

We hold the information for enquires and reporting...

This just showed us how poor the DOGE team is... it is pretty normal stuff for us to have expired account holders in the database... The systems they are using do not use Archiving systems like we have been doing for the last 10-20 years... I say it is been built on a Mainframe system (maybe AS400) with a website slapped on top (i.e. lipstick on a pig)...

The reason we know DOGE are poor is simple. They didn't think, if we have loads of fraudlent payments going out, how have we no leaked information of it... If we see a massive issue like this we would expect to information from other sources like people reporting fraud (suprise you how many honest people are out there) or cheques returned...
Senior IT people know this and we have seen it for years... This is the difference..

Before making the claim that there were civil war era people receiving benefits they didn't even look at who was receiving payments.

The number of 100+ year olds in the country (Trump Administration 2020 Cencus was low 90,000's), and that the number of benefit payments in December 2024 was 89,106. Which matched very well the number of people eligible or was even low. Remember not eveyone 100+ even qualified for SS because they may not have worked the required quarters or receive retirement from a job NOT covered by Social Security.

But ya know, us data guys are weird in you now, actually thinking about the data.

WW
HR Information Systems Admin

 

[berg80]

IMHO

Assets? No.

Income? Possibily, but it should be a pretty high number starting at somewhere between 500,000 - 1,000,000

I say this because we went through 15 years of long term debilitating decease with my MIL. She had SS as the only income, but had a house on an acre of land from the 1950s. (This was in California.) She finally was forced to sell the house, the money was put into a Trust, and that paid for her long term medical care. We're talking $10,000 a month just for assisted living, not including basic living expenses (food, clothing, utilities, etc.).

A million dollars in that situation get eaten up pretty quickly.

WW

Yes, I know all about that having gone through it with my parents. The income threshold for SS survivor payment eligibility shouldn't be anywhere near $500K. More like $100K or less.

 

[rightwinger]

No. It all probability it was never removed but flagged as a possible DEI conflict.

I just checked their web page:

"Celebrated African-Americans" is still there.

Is the article about Colin Powell still there or is he just listed?

 

[CowboyTed]

I hear Trump had Colin Powell removed from the list of notable people buried at Arlington Cemetery

He didn't but the removed the reference to race on his profile

An archived version of the Arlington National Cemetery website's "prominent military figures" page from late February 2025 displayed Powell's biography beginning with the sentence, "General Colin Powell, a Vietnam veteran, was the first African American to hold three of the U.S. government's highest positions: national security adviser (1987-1989), chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1989-1993), and secretary of state (2001-2005)."
By early March, another archived version of the page confirmed the removal of the fact that Powell was the first African American to hold the three positions.

Investigating claim of Colin Powell's name being removed from Arlington Cemetery website

Some people alleged U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth oversaw the removal of Powell's biography from the cemetery's website. Here are the facts.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Hollie]

I hear Trump had Colin Powell removed from the list of notable people buried at Arlington Cemetery

did you hear that while binge watching The View?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yes, I know all about that having gone through it with my parents. The income threshold for SS survivor payment eligibility shouldn't be anywhere near $500K. More like $100K or less.

Her medical care in the later years ran $10,000 A MONTH. That was $120,000 a year so on top of that we're going to cut her $19,000 a year in SS?

No thank you.

(Hypothetically of course, no disrespect intended.)

WW

 

[Mac1958]

You have to prove George is getting payments after death. My old man died in January and he is not getting SS. My mom is getting his SS because it is allowed.

When one spouse on Social Security dies, the remaining spouse loses the lower check but retains the higher check.

Many Americans need every penny, especially when one spouse dies.

These people are so proud of their hate and heartlessness. MAGA is all about "me". That's all it is. The rest is bullshit, including the religion.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Is the article about Colin Powell still there or is he just listed?

Neither, but there are several other famous blacks, women, black supreme court justices, etc.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

He was a career criminal. Probably never had a job.

Likely had a job longer than you have been alive.

George Foreman​

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › George_Foreman
4 hours ago — Amateur career Foreman won a gold medal in the boxing/heavyweight division at the 1968 Mexico City Olympic Games. In the finals, Foreman defeated the Soviet ...

5 Live In Short - 'I was there': Thrilla in Manila, 1975​

BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk › ... › 5 Live In Short › Features
George Foreman on Thrilla in Manila: 'The most brutal boxing match ever'. The former boxer remembers the famous Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier 1975 bout .




The George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine, also commonly referred to as simply the George Foreman grill, is a portable double-sided electrically heated grill manufactured by Spectrum Brands. It was promoted by two-time world heavyweight boxing champion George Foreman. Since its introduction in 1994, over 100 million George Foreman grills have been sold worldwide.

 

[multivita-man]

LIb and dems do not seem to care about SS payments going to dead people, so this is a valid question.

Surviving spouse maybe? Should survivors not get social support? I mean, that's a fair argument to make, I reckon, but I'm not sure a lot of people actually agree when the rubber hits the road.

 

[CowboyTed]

It was by Fox News but the lamestream media refuses to tell the truth to the masses by omitting the truth completely.

Musk's DOGE never said these people were getting paid but merely showed how screwed up the system was.

It was very heavily implied...

We keep people on systems after they die for enquires and reporting...

Tesla keep old customers on their systems too... Every Company does it in various ways...

The only people under Musk control who would know anything about Customer Data would be WARP... He built his own in house CRM when he left using Salesforce. (it was more about them having a simpler model and could save money on Salesforce Licences)...

So they should have known, but this makes me think Elon didn't take the A grade out of the office... They were far too young...

 

[rightwinger]

Neither, but there are several other famous blacks, women, black supreme court justices, etc.

Evidently, the article on Colin Powell was edited to remove references that he was the first African American to be Chairman of Joint Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.

As an academic and veteran, do you think the purge of DEI should go this far?

Investigating claim of Colin Powell's name being removed from Arlington Cemetery website

Some people alleged U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth oversaw the removal of Powell's biography from the cemetery's website. Here are the facts.

www.snopes.com

 

[WorldWatcher]

So they should have known, but this makes me think Elon didn't take the A grade out of the office... They were far too young...

IMHO, the problem with Musk is he's a Rocket Scientist (or close enough).

In rocket science you:

• Design
• Test to failure
• Take the data, redesign
• Test to failure
• Take the data, redesign
• Repeat to success

Where talking literally peoples lives here.

IMHO, testing to failure to break it and then try to figure out what went wrong is not a good approach to government. Rocket science? Sure. Peoples livelihood and literal lives? Not so much.

WW

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It was very heavily implied...

We keep people on systems after they die for enquires and reporting...

Tesla keep old customers on their systems too... Every Company does it in various ways...

The only people under Musk control who would know anything about Customer Data would be WARP... He built his own in house CRM when he left using Salesforce. (it was more about them having a simpler model and could save money on Salesforce Licences)...

So they should have known, but this makes me think Elon didn't take the A grade out of the office... They were far too young...

Actually, it was not. What was implied by the media was by omission of the fact that these people are not getting paid.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Evidently, the article on Colin Powell was edited to remove references that he was the first African American to be Chairman of Joint Chief of Staff, National Security Advisor and Secretary of State.

As an academic and veteran, do you think the purge of DEI should go this far?

Investigating claim of Colin Powell's name being removed from Arlington Cemetery website

Some people alleged U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth oversaw the removal of Powell's biography from the cemetery's website. Here are the facts.

www.snopes.com

Your link proves everything you have claimed is wrong. Can you read for comprehension or has TDS destroyed that function of your brain.

 

[jknowgood]

Likely had a job longer than you have been alive.

George Foreman​

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Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › George_Foreman
4 hours ago — Amateur career Foreman won a gold medal in the boxing/heavyweight division at the 1968 Mexico City Olympic Games. In the finals, Foreman defeated the Soviet ...

5 Live In Short - 'I was there': Thrilla in Manila, 1975​

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BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk › ... › 5 Live In Short › Features
George Foreman on Thrilla in Manila: 'The most brutal boxing match ever'. The former boxer remembers the famous Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier 1975 bout .




The George Foreman Lean Mean Fat-Reducing Grilling Machine, also commonly referred to as simply the George Foreman grill, is a portable double-sided electrically heated grill manufactured by Spectrum Brands. It was promoted by two-time world heavyweight boxing champion George Foreman. Since its introduction in 1994, over 100 million George Foreman grills have been sold worldwide.

My fault I got him mixed up with George Floyd. No, Foreman was the man.