Who else isn't going to watch the GOP debate?

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trump is probably the worst of all time. He’s the WOAT. Who else has gotten themselves in as much shit? He pretty much in a class of his own with regard to self destruction.

Do you have brown eyes and bad breath?

 

[Billiejeens]

In 1876 there were questions on the integrity of the Presidential election and there was a Congressional audit. That is established precedent. That was the right thing to do and it established the legitimacy of the election.

That cowardly sonofabitch Pence was a chickenshit that didn't have the backbone to do the right thing and insist on an audit of the 2020 election, where there were tremendous evidence of fraud ballots in Democrat swing districts.

He helped the Democrat filth get away with stealing the election and that makes him a traitor to his country and a villain of the stolen election.

With honest, informed people, that is not really even in dispute.

 

[Flash]

While that might be the truth, at this point, the global elites have been so successful at saturating the national population, and the young voters with an epistemology narrative at odds with that narrative, it would not be politically tenable to take such an extreme position in the general election, if a candidate wishes to actually win.

So, they need to ask themselves, do they want to ACTUALLY BE PRESIDENT, or do they want to only represent folks in the election that aren't idiots?

So no, at this point in history, given the daily propaganda that has bombarded the population for the past two decades? If someone wants to actually BE president, although that may be the truth, that is not the best answer.

So you are saying anybody running for office should parrot the AGW scam because there are so many dumb ass people that actually believe that horseshit?

 

[Resnic]

There is no way to prove they wouldn't immediately waffle if they got the nom for the general election. DaSantis will most likely 'moderate and roll back his messages if he got the nom; he's a Bush Boi.

I like desantis but I don't think he is ready. He would be better off as a vice president first then run for president once he has some experience under his belt. He has been flying high as governor and he over estimates his ability to be president. But some experience and hard lessons I think he has potential to turn out to be a good president, he just isn't there yet.

He still has the mind set of a state governor and doesn't address enough nationwide or international things.

Course I could be wrong and he is just better suited for where he is now.

 

[Flash]

I wouldn't call them Neocons. I would call them RINOs.

 

[Flash]

He still has the mind set of a state governor and doesn't address enough nationwide or international things.

The Worthless Negro didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about anything but that didn't prevent him from being elected. Slick Willy's resume was that of the Governor of Arkansas, LOL! Then you have Joe Potatohead that had an extensive record but it was always being wrong on every issue. Even the Worthless Negro told the Moon Bats to never underestimate the abilty of Joe to fuck things up.

 

[Flash]

Trump is probably the worst of all time. He’s the WOAT. Who else has gotten themselves in as much shit? He pretty much in a class of his own with regard to self destruction.

It was not self destruction.

Trump was the best President of modern times but he was viciously attacked by the Deep State that hated his success to make America Great Again.

The Leftest turds tried a coup attempt with that Russia bullshit and when that didn't work they did the dishonest impeachments. When that didn't work they stole the election with the scam of using the Pandemic as a cover to create fraudulent mail in and harvested ballots in Democrat controlled swing districts. Now they are following up with illegal bullshit indictments worthy of the most corrupt Banana Republics.

The Leftest turds in the US are like all Leftest revolutionaries all over the world and are hell bent to turn this once great country into a Socialist shithole. The greedy assholes will lie, cheat and steal to achieve that goal.

 

[JWBooth]

The clip is making it's way around on twitter and I almost would have sit through the thing just for this line -
“I wish you well in your future career on the boards of Lockheed and Raytheon” —
@VivekGRamaswamy to Nikki Haley

 

[Billiejeens]

It was not self destruction.

Trump was the best President of modern times but he was viciously attacked by the Deep State that hated his success to make America Great Again.

The Leftest turds tried a coup attempt with that Russia bullshit and when that didn't work they did the dishonest impeachments. When that didn't work they stole the election with the scam of using the Pandemic as a cover to create fraudulent mail in and harvested ballots in Democrat controlled swing districts. Now they are following up with illegal bullshit indictments worthy of the most corrupt Banana Republics.

The Leftest turds in the US are like all Leftest revolutionaries all over the world and are hell bent to turn this once great country into a Socialist shithole. The greedy assholes will lie, cheat and steal to achieve that goal.

Best President of modern times, with no political experience, against all odds, and against the entire Constant Washington Class.
Remarkable -
The best thing is that everything that he did was repeatable.
We have to make sure that we find someone to repeat those actions.

 

[kyzr]

Spent 3 months in the hospital.

Welcome back! Hope you're fit for duty!

 

[BackAgain]

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I could agree with you. . . . but IMO, Trump does not always pick, "the best people," IMO.

He is a narcissist, that picks folks that agree with him, that are good looking and loyal, not ones that will necessarily be a political asset, with a proven record.

Kristi Noem would be the wise political choice, but it is Kari Lake that is the one that has been sucking up to him, spending time in his orbit, and he has a very easily manipulated ego.

This will cloud his judgement, IMO. It will also cost the GOP the election.

He clearly doesn’t always pick the best people. And he has many other faults and foibles. And yet

He is absolutely the best candidate in the GOP field.

 

[konradv]

He clearly doesn’t always pick the best people. And he has many other faults and foibles. And yet

He is absolutely the best candidate in the GOP field.

But liable to lose anyway, especially if any convictions carry 14th Amendment implications and enough citizens’ groups appeal to their state boards to have Trump removed from the ballot, making it impossible for him to win.

 

[BackAgain]

But liable to lose anyway, especially if any convictions carry 14th Amendment implications and enough citizens’ groups appeal to their state boards to have Trump removed from the ballot, making it impossible for him to win.

I suspect you’re mistaken.

Let’s assume for a moment that Biden lasts long enough to be the Dim nominee. Trump will level him. President Potato can no longer speak two consecutive coherent sentences.

And nobody is removing the former President from any primary or general election ballot. Not gonna happen.

The Dims have an undeniable problem. They recognize that Potato is unable to succeed. They’d love to replace him. But with whom?

Kamala? Please. She sounds like a cross between Sen. Festerlurch and President Potato.

And the Dims otherwise simply have no bench at all.

 

[Road Runner]

Oh yeah btw, I'm also not watching this fight on the playground because I'm voting for Trump anyways so there's no point in it really.

 

[BackAgain]

If Trump were to get to trial on any of his present bullshit cases before Election day and lost the trial, and somehow managed to get sentenced before Election Day and was actually in prison ON Election Day, he would still be a vastly better vote than Potato.

 

[Foxfyre]

Hutchingson, Christie, Haley and Pence need to drop out to thin out the herd to start. If they stay in, it is to muddle the new Republican way that has been yearning to germinate for many years. They throw a lower percentage of crumbs to their national voters than the rest in that group. This is not about genuflecting to Trump. It is about pushing for his agendas that he promoted as President and we want more.

If they continue to poll in the low percentiles I suspect they will. I sure don't think they helped move the needle for them last night. The only two I think who may have helped themselves were Burgum who favorably impressed me but needs some serious name recognition and Ramaswamy who the others tried to dismiss as a rookie and he was having none of it.

Ramaswamy also got the loudest and longest sustained applause when he said he would support Donald Trump as the nominee if Trump is the nominee because Trump was the best President America ever had and he too would follow that Reaganesque America first model. I don't know if his combativeness with Pence and Christie will be well received or was off putting with most. I also don't know if his insistence that we should not be funding the war in the Ukraine will hurt or help him. It did occur to me that he was auditioning for a VP spot with Trump and actually I would be okay with that. Four years of intense on the job training and he likely would change any indefensible positions and be more ready for the job as President if he still wants it. It would also help us know whether his positions are just rhetoric or conviction.

It was interesting to me that the candidates attacked only Ramaswamy and not any of the others. Apparently he worries them more than even DeSantis.

But as far as vision and qualifications or learning anything new about the candidates' various policy positions, the whole thing was pretty much an exercise in futility as we didn't really learn anything new about any of them. There was nothing to get excited about.

Christie came across as characteristically unlikable, even vindictive--he got the loudest boos--and Hutchinson came across as uncharacteristically unlikable and I'm pretty sure generated some hostility from many Patriots.

Pence seemed defensive and was the most combative (against Ramaswamy) that I've ever seen him. Pence did get some good points in and he seems to be the media darling this morning but I doubt he helped himself a lot if any at all.

Haley and Scott seemed rehearsed with nothing new or interesting and I think neither hurt nor helped themselves. Nothing there to generate excitement.

Not sure about DeSantis who refused to be an attack dog re the others or Trump and actually was completely ignored by the others. He didn't say anything at all I disagreed with or out of line but neither was he inspiring or made any point in a way that made me want to say YES!!!! Gut feeling is that he neither helped nor hurt himself and will likely stay second in the polls behind Trump at least for the near future.

 

[MisterBeale]

I intend to stream it later tonight.

I will NOT be listening to the Media's take on the debate. They are far too dishonest to give any credence in, well, anything..

According to the MSM, the big three networks, CNN & MSNBC, Chis Kristy Creme won.

 

[MisterBeale]

So you are saying anybody running for office should parrot the AGW scam because there are so many dumb ass people that actually believe that horseshit?

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No.

OTH, it doesn't mean you have to tell them things that they don't want to hear either.

If you do that? YOU LOSE.

Jimmy Carter tried to tell the masses facts about the economy, energy shortages, and the environment, etc., when he ran against Reagan, and he got slaughtered.

Facts don't matter, only emotional rhetoric does. The masses vote on EMOTIONS, not FACTS, they are dumb. The fact is, during the Stagflation of the late seventies/ early eighties? Neither party really controlled the economy, that was all the FED.

Carter was the one that appointed Volker, and Volker was the one that raised interest rates to tightened money supply. Most radical leftists, don't know shit about economics, they want to believe things that just aren't so. THAT, was in fact, the right move.

How the Fed ended the last great American inflation — and how much it hurt

Forty years ago, the Fed pushed the economy into a recession to stop inflation. Here’s how it played out.

www.vox.com

Reagan? Carter? Neither one had a thing to do with the economic recovery.

Hell, I just watched a far lefty interview the other day, of former MSNBC host, and Hillery supporter, Chris Mathews.

Former MSNBC Chris Matthews WILD DEBATE With Krystal And Saagar | Breaking Points​

OMG, the way he was dismantling those folks, exasperated with them, and just the Biden administration in general, for the leftward drift? HILARIOUS!

When folks don't even acknowledge the basic facts of economics, being separate from the political reality? We can't have a conversation, or a nation anymore.



So no, a candidate should not LIE about reality. . . just don't address it. Avoid the issue, deflect if you have to.

Voters vote, based on emotion, and they are VERY afraid of the climate catastrophe narrative which has been rolled out. You just aren't going to reach them with reasoned arguments at this point, not in talking points and campaign stops.




Folks vote on emotions, not on logic.

 

[airplanemechanic]

I get FOX News on the cable or log into watchTVeverywhere my ISP provides, and watch it on my computer. But I will not give FOX News whatever Neilsen rating point they get for my viewership, fuck that. They are dead to me. Nor will I give any of those fake "Republicans" a minute of my time.

Instead, I'll be watching Tucker's pre-recorded interview with Trump, on Rumble.

​

​

Trump: 'Sparks Will Fly' in My Interview With Carlson​

"Former President Donald Trump declared on his Truth Social site Wednesday that "my interview with Tucker Carlson will be aired tonight at 9 p.m. Sparks will fly. Enjoy."

This is the exact same time that the first Republican primary debate for the presidential nomination will begin in Milwaukee. The debate will be televised nationally on Fox News, and will include eight other candidates.

Trump announced earlier this week that he would not be participating in the debate, citing his commanding lead in the GOP field — he's about 40 points ahead in national polls — and instead would be taking part in the interview, The Hill reported...

...The pre-recorded interview will be broadcast on X, formerly known as Twitter."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-tucker-carlson-interview/2023/08/23/id/1131724/

Unless you are a Nielsen monitored TV watcher they don't know, or care, what you watch.

 

[Flash]

No.

OTH, it doesn't mean you have to tell them things that they don't want to hear either.

If you do that? YOU LOSE.

Jimmy Carter tried to tell the masses facts about the economy, energy shortages, and the environment, etc., when he ran against Reagan, and he got slaughtered.

Facts don't matter, only emotional rhetoric does. The masses vote on EMOTIONS, not FACTS, they are dumb. The fact is, during the Stagflation of the late seventies/ early eighties? Neither party really controlled the economy, that was all the FED.

Carter was the one that appointed Volker, and Volker was the one that raised interest rates to tightened money supply. Most radical leftists, don't know shit about economics, they want to believe things that just aren't so. THAT, was in fact, the right move.

How the Fed ended the last great American inflation — and how much it hurt

Forty years ago, the Fed pushed the economy into a recession to stop inflation. Here’s how it played out.

www.vox.com

Reagan? Carter? Neither one had a thing to do with the economic recovery.

Hell, I just watched a far lefty interview the other day, of former MSNBC host, and Hillery supporter, Chris Mathews.

Former MSNBC Chris Matthews WILD DEBATE With Krystal And Saagar | Breaking Points​

OMG, the way he was dismantling those folks, exasperated with them, and just the Biden administration in general, for the leftward drift? HILARIOUS!

When folks don't even acknowledge the basic facts of economics, being separate from the political reality? We can't have a conversation, or a nation anymore.



So no, a candidate should not LIE about reality. . . just don't address it. Avoid the issue, deflect if you have to.

Voters vote, based on emotion, and they are VERY afraid of the climate catastrophe narrative which has been rolled out. You just aren't going to reach them with reasoned arguments at this point, not in talking points and campaign stops.




Folks vote on emotions, not on logic.

If you vote logic then you will reject this silly ass AGW scam. There is climate change but there is zero evidence it is caused by humans. Just a silly ass correlation, fraudulent data and shit in shit out paid for computer models.

I suspect every candidate on that stage last night knows that AGW is a scam but none of them had the courage to say so.