Who Are The Palestinians?

[montelatici]

...The Zionists gave the West Bank to Jordan. So where is the beef?

No beef.

The dumbass Jordanians chose to attack the Jews again in 1967, after Israel pleaded with them not to.

Then they go their asses kicked by the Jews, and lost it again.

When ya start fights, then lose, you pay a price.

Jordan paid with the West Bank for its stupidity in 1967.

Vae victus.

But it was Israel that attacked in the 1967 War. Israel started the fight. Why do you post nonsense?

"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) "

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War Central Intelligence Agency

Yes you see, Israel paid 5 surrounding Arab countries to pretend a united Arab attack at five different positions. I'll bet those Zionists never knew that, right Monte?

There was no attack by the Arab countries. Israel attacked. Are you able to read?

Go do some research on the term 'pre emptive strike' liar. Israel had every reason to believe that Egypt was planning an attack on them.

Egypt mobilized forces by the Israeli border. They expelled peacekeeping forces that were placed there following the Suez Crisis. Egypt also closed the Strait of Tiran , which Israel said beforehand would be considered an act of war.
Why should Israel have waited until Egypt was going to attack them ??

"It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record.

The President of Egypt, then known as the United Arab Republic (UAR), Gamal Abdel Nasser, later conveyed to U.S. President Lyndon Johnson that his troop buildup in the Sinai Peninsula prior to the war had been to defend against a feared Israeli attack.............the CIA assessed that Nasser’s military presence in the Sinai was defensive,..............Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged in a speech in 1982 that its war on Egypt in 1956 was a war of “choice” and that, “In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

Despite its total lack of sustainability from the documentary record, and despite such admissions from top Israeli officials, it is virtually obligatory for commentators in contemporary mainstream accounts of the ’67 war to describe Israel’s attack on Egypt as “preemptive”.

Israel s attack on Egypt in June 67 was not preemptive Foreign Policy Journal

 

[Kondor3]

No beef.

The dumbass Jordanians chose to attack the Jews again in 1967, after Israel pleaded with them not to.

Then they go their asses kicked by the Jews, and lost it again.

When ya start fights, then lose, you pay a price.

Jordan paid with the West Bank for its stupidity in 1967.

Vae victus.

But it was Israel that attacked in the 1967 War. Israel started the fight. Why do you post nonsense?

"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) "

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War Central Intelligence Agency

Yes you see, Israel paid 5 surrounding Arab countries to pretend a united Arab attack at five different positions. I'll bet those Zionists never knew that, right Monte?

There was no attack by the Arab countries. Israel attacked. Are you able to read?

Go do some research on the term 'pre emptive strike' liar. Israel had every reason to believe that Egypt was planning an attack on them.

Egypt mobilized forces by the Israeli border. They expelled peacekeeping forces that were placed there following the Suez Crisis. Egypt also closed the Strait of Tiran , which Israel said beforehand would be considered an act of war.
Why should Israel have waited until Egypt was going to attack them ??

"It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record.

The President of Egypt, then known as the United Arab Republic (UAR), Gamal Abdel Nasser, later conveyed to U.S. President Lyndon Johnson that his troop buildup in the Sinai Peninsula prior to the war had been to defend against a feared Israeli attack.............the CIA assessed that Nasser’s military presence in the Sinai was defensive,..............Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged in a speech in 1982 that its war on Egypt in 1956 was a war of “choice” and that, “In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

Despite its total lack of sustainability from the documentary record, and despite such admissions from top Israeli officials, it is virtually obligatory for commentators in contemporary mainstream accounts of the ’67 war to describe Israel’s attack on Egypt as “preemptive”.

Israel s attack on Egypt in June 67 was not preemptive Foreign Policy Journal

Too late now for Revisionist History...

About 48 years too late...

 

[toastman]

No beef.

The dumbass Jordanians chose to attack the Jews again in 1967, after Israel pleaded with them not to.

Then they go their asses kicked by the Jews, and lost it again.

When ya start fights, then lose, you pay a price.

Jordan paid with the West Bank for its stupidity in 1967.

Vae victus.

But it was Israel that attacked in the 1967 War. Israel started the fight. Why do you post nonsense?

"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) "

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War Central Intelligence Agency

Yes you see, Israel paid 5 surrounding Arab countries to pretend a united Arab attack at five different positions. I'll bet those Zionists never knew that, right Monte?

There was no attack by the Arab countries. Israel attacked. Are you able to read?

Go do some research on the term 'pre emptive strike' liar. Israel had every reason to believe that Egypt was planning an attack on them.

Egypt mobilized forces by the Israeli border. They expelled peacekeeping forces that were placed there following the Suez Crisis. Egypt also closed the Strait of Tiran , which Israel said beforehand would be considered an act of war.
Why should Israel have waited until Egypt was going to attack them ??

"It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record.

The President of Egypt, then known as the United Arab Republic (UAR), Gamal Abdel Nasser, later conveyed to U.S. President Lyndon Johnson that his troop buildup in the Sinai Peninsula prior to the war had been to defend against a feared Israeli attack.............the CIA assessed that Nasser’s military presence in the Sinai was defensive,..............Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged in a speech in 1982 that its war on Egypt in 1956 was a war of “choice” and that, “In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

Despite its total lack of sustainability from the documentary record, and despite such admissions from top Israeli officials, it is virtually obligatory for commentators in contemporary mainstream accounts of the ’67 war to describe Israel’s attack on Egypt as “preemptive”.

Israel s attack on Egypt in June 67 was not preemptive Foreign Policy Journal

All this jibberish and nothing changes the reality of all the reasons I posted for Israel striking first.

 

[montelatici]

Israel attacked. You can rationalize and justify it in your mind all you want. Nazi Germany made similar claims when the attacked Poland and France. Both had mobilized.

 

[toastman]

Israel attacked. You can rationalize and justify it in your mind all you want. Nazi Germany made similar claims when the attacked Poland and France. Both had mobilized.

LOL another dumb comparison by Monti

Did Poland mobilize their troops by Germany's border making threats of annihalation?
Did Poland close a Strait which made it impossible for Israel to partake in shipping?
Did Poland expel peacekeeping treaties that were placed by the German border after the previous War between the two countries?

No matter how hard you try, you cannot refute the fact that Israel was well within her right to attack Egypt, and that Egypt commenced hostilities. As usual, you are unable to accept the truth, something we have grown to see with you.
To think that tiny Israel, who was only 19 years old at the time would want to start a war with a country 20 times it's size is absurd. It makes no sense.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel attacked. You can rationalize and justify it in your mind all you want. Nazi Germany made similar claims when the attacked Poland and France. Both had mobilized.

Your analogy is horseshit.

Poland was not amassing troops on the German border nor did Poland close the North Sea to Germany maritime traffic nor did the Polish President publicly declare that he was going to wipe Germany off the map.

You Arab Lovers really have to work on your Faux Analogies... that one was downright childish and embarrassing.

 

[Agit8r]

The aristocracy of Judah was taken into exile. The remainder, as well as the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Israel have a genetic heritage that continue today among various peoples of the region, including among the Palestinians:

Genetic studies of Jewish origins - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Where in the Bible were the Israelites called Jews.

Just curious.

In the New Testament. I'm not talking about the Bible though. I'm talking about the common ancestry of the Israeli people and their neighbors.

IOW, the Israelites were not called Jews in the Bible.

Nonetheless, the word is used in the NT:

John 10 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him

 

[aris2chat]

The aristocracy of Judah was taken into exile. The remainder, as well as the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Israel have a genetic heritage that continue today among various peoples of the region, including among the Palestinians:

Genetic studies of Jewish origins - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Where in the Bible were the Israelites called Jews.

Just curious.

In the New Testament. I'm not talking about the Bible though. I'm talking about the common ancestry of the Israeli people and their neighbors.

IOW, the Israelites were not called Jews in the Bible.

Nonetheless, the word is used in the NT:

John 10 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him

and he went back

 

[P F Tinmore]

The aristocracy of Judah was taken into exile. The remainder, as well as the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Israel have a genetic heritage that continue today among various peoples of the region, including among the Palestinians:

Genetic studies of Jewish origins - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Where in the Bible were the Israelites called Jews.

Just curious.

In the New Testament. I'm not talking about the Bible though. I'm talking about the common ancestry of the Israeli people and their neighbors.

IOW, the Israelites were not called Jews in the Bible.

Nonetheless, the word is used in the NT:

John 10 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him

Wasn't that in Judea not in Israel?

 

[aris2chat]

anyone else think it is time to close this heading and start a new one?

 

[Kondor3]

anyone else think it is time to close this heading and start a new one?

Might as well... this stopped being relevant to the OP hundreds of pages ago...

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

 

[Agit8r]

The aristocracy of Judah was taken into exile. The remainder, as well as the inhabitants of the Kingdom of Israel have a genetic heritage that continue today among various peoples of the region, including among the Palestinians:

Genetic studies of Jewish origins - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Where in the Bible were the Israelites called Jews.

Just curious.

In the New Testament. I'm not talking about the Bible though. I'm talking about the common ancestry of the Israeli people and their neighbors.

IOW, the Israelites were not called Jews in the Bible.

Nonetheless, the word is used in the NT:

John 10 31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him

Wasn't that in Judea not in Israel?

It can be confusing because most people in today's "Israel" are Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

No beef.

The dumbass Jordanians chose to attack the Jews again in 1967, after Israel pleaded with them not to.

Then they go their asses kicked by the Jews, and lost it again.

When ya start fights, then lose, you pay a price.

Jordan paid with the West Bank for its stupidity in 1967.

Vae victus.

But it was Israel that attacked in the 1967 War. Israel started the fight. Why do you post nonsense?

"Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis— contrary to their claims—had fired first.) "

CIA Analysis of the 1967 Arab-Israeli War Central Intelligence Agency

Yes you see, Israel paid 5 surrounding Arab countries to pretend a united Arab attack at five different positions. I'll bet those Zionists never knew that, right Monte?

There was no attack by the Arab countries. Israel attacked. Are you able to read?

Go do some research on the term 'pre emptive strike' liar. Israel had every reason to believe that Egypt was planning an attack on them.

Egypt mobilized forces by the Israeli border. They expelled peacekeeping forces that were placed there following the Suez Crisis. Egypt also closed the Strait of Tiran , which Israel said beforehand would be considered an act of war.
Why should Israel have waited until Egypt was going to attack them ??

"It is often claimed that Israel’s attack on Egypt that began the June 1967 “Six Day War” was a “preemptive” one. Implicit in that description is the notion that Israel was under imminent threat of an attack from Egypt. Yet this historical interpretation of the war is not sustained by the documentary record.

The President of Egypt, then known as the United Arab Republic (UAR), Gamal Abdel Nasser, later conveyed to U.S. President Lyndon Johnson that his troop buildup in the Sinai Peninsula prior to the war had been to defend against a feared Israeli attack.............the CIA assessed that Nasser’s military presence in the Sinai was defensive,..............Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin acknowledged in a speech in 1982 that its war on Egypt in 1956 was a war of “choice” and that, “In June 1967 we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.”

Despite its total lack of sustainability from the documentary record, and despite such admissions from top Israeli officials, it is virtually obligatory for commentators in contemporary mainstream accounts of the ’67 war to describe Israel’s attack on Egypt as “preemptive”.

Israel s attack on Egypt in June 67 was not preemptive Foreign Policy Journal

Try looking up operation dawn as it destroys your whole premise on the 6 days war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Dawn_(1967)

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

No right of return under International law. video dismissed as being propaganda

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

No right of return under International law. video dismissed as being propaganda

She is a rights lawyer.

And you are not.

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

No right of return under International law. video dismissed as being propaganda

She is a rights lawyer.

And you are not.

And there is no legal right of return, and that does not need a lawyer to explain why.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

No right of return under International law. video dismissed as being propaganda

She is a rights lawyer.

And you are not.

And there is no legal right of return, and that does not need a lawyer to explain why.

Who says?

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

No right of return under International law. video dismissed as being propaganda

She is a rights lawyer.

And you are not.

And there is no legal right of return, and that does not need a lawyer to explain why.

Who says?

The UN, ICC, ICJ and international law. And the links have been posted before to show this

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Lamis Deek

No right of return under International law. video dismissed as being propaganda

She is a rights lawyer.

And you are not.

And there is no legal right of return, and that does not need a lawyer to explain why.

Who says?

The UN, ICC, ICJ and international law. And the links have been posted before to show this

Sure they have.

Nice duck.