Who Are The Palestinians?

[Challenger]

Would a country in Europe accept 6 million Christians from another country?

They do. All the time. They also accept Muslims, Jews, or whomever immigrates there legally. The fact is nobody wants the Palestinians because they are TROUBLE.

No country in Europe would accept 6 million people of any race, ethnicity or religion. The Palestinians are just Christians and Muslims resisting occupation and oppression. No one suggested that the South African non-whites leave South Africa to make room for the whites. After all, white ruled South Africa was surrounded by black ruled states. What makes the Christians and Muslims of Palestine any different?

The Christians are being ethnically cleansed form Palestine by the arab muslims. And we took over 500,000 into the UK alone last year as asylum seekers.


And again you go OFF TOPIC by bringing another nation an ocean and a continent away

We've suddenly had an influx of 500,000 Christian Palestinians in the UK last year? Seriously, go take your meds you are totally losing the plot.

We took over 500,000 asylum seekers into the UK, and promptly deported so many. Don't you ever read the newspapers or watch the News programmes. On top of this we allowed 275,000 foreign nationals to enter as immigrants. So do the sums for the UK alone and see how easy it is to accommodate 6 million legal and/or illegal muslim immigrants



Seriously stop flaming AND trolling

Your post:

The Christians are being ethnically cleansed form Palestine by the arab muslims. And we took over 500,000 into the UK alone last year as asylum seekers.

Your claim clearly states 500,000 Palestinian Christians came to the UK as asylum seekers. When challenged, your response:

We took over 500,000 asylum seekers into the UK, and promptly deported so many.

Seriously, take your meds.

 

[Challenger]

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

No I'm blaming Israel because with the vast array of drones and high tech precision weapons at their disposal, they prefer to carpet bomb whole suburbs of Gaza and use artillery barrages, which aren't known for their discrimination, in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

Worked in germany during wwii.

No it didn't. The Red Army defeated Germany when they took Romania, not the allied air offensive. Bombing people into the stone age doesn't make them want to give up, it just generates an abiding hatred of those doing the bombing.

 

[Challenger]

The Palestinians have every claim to their land. Jewish European colonist immigrants have no valid claim to Palestine.

 

[Challenger]

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

Maybe not, but there was a sovereign Palestinian state Daher el-Omar - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

He was Governor of Safad, Sheikh of Acre and Galilee, Emir of Nazareth, a feudal lord

Druze had a few semi-automonous sanjuks under the ottomans, but they were not states. Most of what is today Lebanon was also semi-autonomous, but when Lebanon became an actual state from the french mandate, the lines changed.
Acre was not a state let along a "palestinian" state. It was a druze stonghold.

It was for a time an independant Muslim state in Northern Palestine, like it or not.

 

[Challenger]

Would a country in Europe accept 6 million Christians from another country?

They do. All the time. They also accept Muslims, Jews, or whomever immigrates there legally. The fact is nobody wants the Palestinians because they are TROUBLE.

No country in Europe would accept 6 million people of any race, ethnicity or religion. The Palestinians are just Christians and Muslims resisting occupation and oppression. No one suggested that the South African non-whites leave South Africa to make room for the whites. After all, white ruled South Africa was surrounded by black ruled states. What makes the Christians and Muslims of Palestine any different?

The Christians are being ethnically cleansed form Palestine by the arab muslims. And we took over 500,000 into the UK alone last year as asylum seekers.


And again you go OFF TOPIC by bringing another nation an ocean and a continent away

We've suddenly had an influx of 500,000 Christian Palestinians in the UK last year? Seriously, go take your meds you are totally losing the plot.

figures are from NABA

Never heard of them, care to provide a link?

 

[toastman]

The Palestinians have every claim to their land. Jewish European colonist immigrants have no valid claim to Palestine.

The term colonist is part of the Palestinian propaganda campaign.

Palestinians have their Palestine. Gaza and the West Bank. The rest is Israel. Get over it.

 

[Challenger]

The Palestinians have every claim to their land. Jewish European colonist immigrants have no valid claim to Palestine.

The term colonist is part of the Palestinian propaganda campaign.

Palestinians have their Palestine. Gaza and the West Bank. The rest is Israel. Get over it.

Israel for now...there's a one state solution on the horizon and nothing is set in stone.

 

[Challenger]

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

So what?

It shows that the arab muslims have no claim to the land, which is why the LoN left them out of the Mandate for Palestine. It was only the U.N. that gave in to the threats of violence and terrorism that tried to placate them with half of the Jews land. But being muslims they declined the offer and engaged in violence and terrorism anyway because their god commands it. And you follow the same commands because you are a muslim.

The preamble of the mandate document declared:

Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country
British Mandate for Palestine legal instrument - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

And the declaration of Independence by the Jews in 1948 did not do anything to prejudice the civil and religious rights AS THEY WERE UNDERSTOOD AT THAT TIME of the non Jews.
Stop trying to apply 2015 rules to what happened in 1948, they did not exist at that time.

But how about saying something about the very serious breach of the Mandate when the arab muslim nations forcibly evicted the Jews and stole all their property. Any comment ?

Another total re-write of history from our brain addled Phoney.

 

[Challenger]

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

Arafat the boy lover organised the printing of thousands of fake title deeds to land in Israel, and had thousands of keys made that never fit any lock. The fakes were easily spotted when the land registry was opened and the real owners names were found.

Link or citation please.

 

[theliq]

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

And THAT right there is the difference between "liberators" and "terrorists." Terrorists target the innocent. They are monsters.

And that is what Stern and the Zionist were/ARE,so thanks for you input.....H.I.M.theliq

 

[theliq]

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

Arafat the boy lover organised the printing of thousands of fake title deeds to land in Israel, and had thousands of keys made that never fit any lock. The fakes were easily spotted when the land registry was opened and the real owners names were found.

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[montelatici]

"Christians were so thin on the Ground until at least the 4C and then they were mostly IMMIGRANTS"

Usual Phoney bullshit. He just makes things up.

"The arab muslims have shown that they cant freely pursue their economic, social or cultural development. They cant even tie their own shoelace"

The Arab Muslims of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Qatar, Dubai, Kuwait, UAE, sem to do ok.

"They are the ones delaying their independence because they know they are not ready, which is why they want a scapegoat ( the UN ) when it goes tits up."

Is the UN holding the Palestinians in the Gulags of the West bank and Gaza and is the UN controlling the land borders, air space and territorial sea of those Gulags?

"Attack a nation and you can expect to be retaliated to,"

Then, after invading, settling and occupying Palestine (coming all the way from Europe), why are Israelis surprised that the Christians and Muslims are resisting the invasion?

 

[toastman]

The Palestinians have every claim to their land. Jewish European colonist immigrants have no valid claim to Palestine.

The term colonist is part of the Palestinian propaganda campaign.

Palestinians have their Palestine. Gaza and the West Bank. The rest is Israel. Get over it.

Israel for now...there's a one state solution on the horizon and nothing is set in stone.

For now forever

 

[toastman]

"Christians were so thin on the Ground until at least the 4C and then they were mostly IMMIGRANTS"

Usual Phoney bullshit. He just makes things up.

"The arab muslims have shown that they cant freely pursue their economic, social or cultural development. They cant even tie their own shoelace"

The Arab Muslims of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Qatar, Dubai, Kuwait, UAE, sem to do ok.

"They are the ones delaying their independence because they know they are not ready, which is why they want a scapegoat ( the UN ) when it goes tits up."

Is the UN holding the Palestinians in the Gulags of the West bank and Gaza and is the UN controlling the land borders, air space and territorial sea of those Gulags?

"Attack a nation and you can expect to be retaliated to,"

Then, after invading, settling and occupying Palestine (coming all the way from Europe), why are Israelis surprised that the Christians and Muslims are resisting the invasion?

Because they bever invaded Palestine. An invasion is a military offensive.
The 'European Jewish invasion' is Palestinian propaganda.

 

[montelatici]

They came from Europe, settled an area of the Middle East then evicted the Christians and Muslims that lived in that area and took the land that the non-Jews had lived on for thousands of years through armed conflict. That is an invasion.

 

[MJB12741]

They came from Europe, settled an area of the Middle East then evicted the Christians and Muslims that lived in that area and took the land that the non-Jews had lived on for thousands of years through armed conflict. That is an invasion.

Among the indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim Palestinian is a native to the land except for converts to Islam.

 

[Challenger]

They came from Europe, settled an area of the Middle East then evicted the Christians and Muslims that lived in that area and took the land that the non-Jews had lived on for thousands of years through armed conflict. That is an invasion.

Among the indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim Palestinian is a native to the land except for converts to Islam.

The indigenous Palestinians were adherents to many cults and religions, including Judaism, but the area did not have a uniform or dominant religion until Christianity became the official religion of the Roman empire, and even then there were heretics a plenty in the region. When the Arabs conquered the region, only their elites settled in the estates vacated by the Byzantines; the common people remained and over time converted to Islam. Every Muslim Palestinian is a native to the land unless they are first generation immigrants.

 

[Challenger]

"Christians were so thin on the Ground until at least the 4C and then they were mostly IMMIGRANTS"

Usual Phoney bullshit. He just makes things up.

"The arab muslims have shown that they cant freely pursue their economic, social or cultural development. They cant even tie their own shoelace"

The Arab Muslims of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Qatar, Dubai, Kuwait, UAE, sem to do ok.

"They are the ones delaying their independence because they know they are not ready, which is why they want a scapegoat ( the UN ) when it goes tits up."

Is the UN holding the Palestinians in the Gulags of the West bank and Gaza and is the UN controlling the land borders, air space and territorial sea of those Gulags?

"Attack a nation and you can expect to be retaliated to,"

Then, after invading, settling and occupying Palestine (coming all the way from Europe), why are Israelis surprised that the Christians and Muslims are resisting the invasion?

Because they bever invaded Palestine. An invasion is a military offensive.
The 'European Jewish invasion' is Palestinian propaganda.

Invasion =
1. An act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.
2. The entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as in a disease.
3. Entrance as if to take possession or overrun, as in, "the annual invasion of the resort by tourists".
4. Infringement by intrusion.

Take your pick, invasions aren't necessarily military in nature.

 

[toastman]

"Christians were so thin on the Ground until at least the 4C and then they were mostly IMMIGRANTS"

Usual Phoney bullshit. He just makes things up.

"The arab muslims have shown that they cant freely pursue their economic, social or cultural development. They cant even tie their own shoelace"

The Arab Muslims of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Qatar, Dubai, Kuwait, UAE, sem to do ok.

"They are the ones delaying their independence because they know they are not ready, which is why they want a scapegoat ( the UN ) when it goes tits up."

Is the UN holding the Palestinians in the Gulags of the West bank and Gaza and is the UN controlling the land borders, air space and territorial sea of those Gulags?

"Attack a nation and you can expect to be retaliated to,"

Then, after invading, settling and occupying Palestine (coming all the way from Europe), why are Israelis surprised that the Christians and Muslims are resisting the invasion?

Because they bever invaded Palestine. An invasion is a military offensive.
The 'European Jewish invasion' is Palestinian propaganda.

Invasion =
1. An act or instance of invading or entering as an enemy, especially by an army.
2. The entrance or advent of anything troublesome or harmful, as in a disease.
3. Entrance as if to take possession or overrun, as in, "the annual invasion of the resort by tourists".
4. Infringement by intrusion.

Take your pick, invasions aren't necessarily military in nature.

None of those apply to European Jewish Immigration.

 

[toastman]

They came from Europe, settled an area of the Middle East then evicted the Christians and Muslims that lived in that area and took the land that the non-Jews had lived on for thousands of years through armed conflict. That is an invasion.

No they didn't

They immigrated to the region, got attacked by 5 Arab armies INCLUDING the Palestinian Arabs, and then expelled some of the Palestinians, who were trying to expel the Jews..
If a European Jewish army came to Palestine through a military offensive, THAT'S an invasion. But that's not what happened,