Who Are The Palestinians?

[Phoenall]

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

Arafat the boy lover organised the printing of thousands of fake title deeds to land in Israel, and had thousands of keys made that never fit any lock. The fakes were easily spotted when the land registry was opened and the real owners names were found.

 

[Phoenall]

Let the truth be known to all.

Who Are The Palestinians What And Where Is Palestine

A mighty Jewish empire extended over this entire area before the Arabs and their Islam were even born! The Jewish People have one of the most legitimate Birth Certificates of any nations in the world. And if you want to talk religion, fine. G-d GAVE the Land of Israel to the Jewish People. And G-d does nothing by accident!

That's as far as I got, a mighty Jewish empire never existed.

Also since most Jews in Israel are secular, we'll leave God out of it.

(let me add, and if you insist God gave them the land, well God give it and God take it , which should be evident as no temple there, and Britain is not God).

And there was no arab muslim ownership of Palestine from 1099 until 1988. And there second most holy place "allegedly" was allowed to fall into ruin 3 times while islam was in control of the land.

You know what it doesn't matter, they were living there when the Zionist came so there.

By your logic, a squatter that moves into your house should be allowed to stay.

that is how it was in the UK until recently, and this allowed many neo Marxists like challenger to live for free. Now the squatters can be evicted by the police and charged with burglary.

 

[Phoenall]

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

 

[P F Tinmore]

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

 

[ChrisL]

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

 

[Phoenall]

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

And once again you ignore the evidence of hamas using human shields to protect terrorists that has been posted, even hamas leaders agreeing that they use human shields. This is against International Law so it seems that you advocate that muslims should ignore International law.

Even the Goldstone Report found no evidence to support that hogwash.

Here you go some links proving that it happened.

Hamas DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as human shields Daily Mail Online

Hamas admits it DID use schools and hospitals in Gaza Strip as 'human shields' to launch rocket attacks on Israel - but claims it was 'mistake'
Conclusive Proof Hamas Uses Palestinians as Human Shields Jewish Israel News Algemeiner.com

For the past four weeks, as the war has raged in Gaza, Israel has repeatedly pointed to the Hamas strategy of using civilians as human shields. Palestinian spokesmen and supporters, in turn, have insisted that it’s “racist” to accuse Palestinian terrorists of such behaviour.

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf



A. Launching attacks from within civilian areas and from within


or in the immediate vicinity of protected sites

446. The Mission investigated two incidents in which the Government of Israel alleged that

Palestinian combatants had fired on the Israeli armed forces from within a United Nations

protected site or its immediate vicinity in densely populated urban areas. In the case of the

shelling in al-Fakhura Street by the Israeli armed forces on 6 January 2009 (chap. X), the

Mission accepted, on the basis of information in the reports it had seen, the possibility of mortar

attacks from Palestinian combatants in the vicinity of the school.


448. The Mission spoke with two witnesses who testified to the launching of rockets from

urban areas. One witness stated seeing rockets being launched from a narrow street and from a

square in Gaza City without providing further details as to when this occurred.300 A second


witness told the Mission that rockets may have been fired from within the Sheikh Radwan

neighbourhood north of Gaza City during the military operations in Gaza.301



449. The Mission found corroboration of these witness accounts in a number of reports from

international NGOs. In reports issued following Israel’s military operations in Gaza, Amnesty

International, the International Crisis Group and Human Rights Watch each determined that the

rocket units of the Palestinian armed groups operated from within populated areas.302 Human


Rights Watch and the International Crisis Group gathered reports from civilians about instances

in which armed groups had launched or had attempted to launch rockets near residential areas.

Human Rights Watch quoted a resident of northern Gaza as stating that, on 1 January 2009,

residents of the area prevented Palestinian fighters, who they believed were preparing to launch

rockets, from entering a garden next to the building in which they lived.303 The International


Crisis Group interviewed a resident of Beit Lahia who stated that fighters used his land to fire

rockets, which he did not dare to resist, as his father had previously been shot in the leg by a

member of such an armed group when he had tried to prevent them from using his land as a

rocket launching site.304 Amnesty International conducted interviews with residents of Gaza


who stated that they had observed Palestinian fighters firing a rocket from a courtyard of a

Government school in Gaza City at a time when the schools were closed. In another area of

Gaza City, another resident reportedly showed an Amnesty International researcher a place

from which a rocket had been launched, 50 metres from a residential building.305





These are just a few of the proven cases of human shields to be found in the Glodstone report.

WHY DO YOU LIE WHEN THE EVIDENCE IS SO EASY TO FIND.

 

[Phoenall]

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

Palestinian MANDATE citizens not Palestinian nation citizens

 

[Phoenall]

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

What do Palestinian Christians care about the Koran?

King James Bible

The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

Exod 15:14

You do realise that the King James was written in a Language that was known to all, and at that time Palestina was in common usage.

And why pick out the only version that says palestina when all the others say Philisia

New International Version
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will grip the people of Philistia.New Living Translation
The peoples hear and tremble; anguish grips those who live in Philistia.English Standard Version
The peoples have heard; they tremble; pangs have seized the inhabitants of Philistia.New American Standard Bible
"The peoples have heard, they tremble; Anguish has gripped the inhabitants of Philistia.King James Bible
When the peoples hear, they will shudder; anguish will seize the inhabitants of Philistia. International Standard Version
"The people heard and they quaked, anguish has seized the inhabitants of Philistia.NET Bible
The nations will hear and tremble; anguish will seize the inhabitants of Philistia. GOD'S WORD® Translation
People will hear of it and tremble. The people of Philistia will be in anguish.Jubilee Bible 2000
The peoples shall hear and be afraid; sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.King James 2000 Bible
The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.American King James Version
The peoples have heard, they tremble: Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.Douay-Rheims Bible
Nations rose up, and were angry: sorrows took hold on the inhabitants of Philisthiim. Darby Bible Translation
The peoples heard it, they were afraid: A thrill seized the inhabitants of Philistia.English Revised Version
The peoples have heard, they tremble: Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.Webster's Bible Translation
The peoples have heard. They tremble. Pangs have taken hold on the inhabitants of Philistia.Young's Literal Translation
Peoples have heard, they are troubled; Pain hath seized inhabitants of Philistia.

 

[Phoenall]

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

Or hamas using them as human shields, detailed in the Goldstone report.

 

[Phoenall]

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

No I'm blaming Israel because with the vast array of drones and high tech precision weapons at their disposal, they prefer to carpet bomb whole suburbs of Gaza and use artillery barrages, which aren't known for their discrimination, in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

So you don't blame hamas for breach of the Geneva conventions and International humanitarian law when they fire illegal weapons from civilian areas, schools, hospitals and mosques

 

[Phoenall]

Would a country in Europe accept 6 million Christians from another country?

They do. All the time. They also accept Muslims, Jews, or whomever immigrates there legally. The fact is nobody wants the Palestinians because they are TROUBLE.

No country in Europe would accept 6 million people of any race, ethnicity or religion. The Palestinians are just Christians and Muslims resisting occupation and oppression. No one suggested that the South African non-whites leave South Africa to make room for the whites. After all, white ruled South Africa was surrounded by black ruled states. What makes the Christians and Muslims of Palestine any different?

The Christians are being ethnically cleansed form Palestine by the arab muslims. And we took over 500,000 into the UK alone last year as asylum seekers.


And again you go OFF TOPIC by bringing another nation an ocean and a continent away

The usual lying and bullshitting from Phoney.

Christians are leaving Palestine because of the Israeli occupation and resultant oppression:

"The Palestinian Christians in Gaza today, they suffer as much as the Palestinian Muslims in Gaza. They are under bombardment. They have only eight hours of electricity of every 24 hours. They have a hard time getting fresh water," he said. "The Palestinian Christians, they don't live in an isolated area where oh, this is a Christian town. No, they live among the Muslims in Gaza and therefore as much as the Muslims are suffering, the Christians are suffering, not only in the Gaza strip but also in the West Bank."

Palestinian Christian Western Christians Don t Understand Gaza Israeli Conflict

There aren't 500,000 Christians in Palestine, how could the UK have taken in 500,000?

Learn to read Abdul, you are only showing yourself up. Now where did I say we took 500,000 Christians in ? ? ? ? ?

 

[ChrisL]

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

No I'm blaming Israel because with the vast array of drones and high tech precision weapons at their disposal, they prefer to carpet bomb whole suburbs of Gaza and use artillery barrages, which aren't known for their discrimination, in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.

So you don't blame hamas for breach of the Geneva conventions and International humanitarian law when they fire illegal weapons from civilian areas, schools, hospitals and mosques

I do. They get their people killed on purpose. I think that's obvious to pretty much everyone with a brain.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

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Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”​

Just like I said.

link: Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

 

[ChrisL]

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

-------------------
Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”​

Just like I said.

link: Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Look, Palestine was never a sovereign state. They went from Ottoman rule to British rule.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

-------------------
Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”​

Just like I said.

link: Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Look, Palestine was never a sovereign state. They went from Ottoman rule to British rule.

So?

 

[ChrisL]

Who invited the arab muslims to migrate to Palestine then, where is the treaty that says they an come and be citizens ?

Don't forget in 1099 the Crusaders evicted the muslims and the arabs never came back until the end of the 19C, when the Jews had made the land fertile again.

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

-------------------
Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”​

Just like I said.

link: Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Look, Palestine was never a sovereign state. They went from Ottoman rule to British rule.

So?

So? It was under control of the Ottoman empire and just a territory. The British came and conquered and then it was THEIR territory. They broke it up into Israel/Palestine. The Israelis never stole anything and have just as much right to be there as anyone.

 

[fanger]

Learn to read Abdul, you are only showing yourself up. Now where did I say we took 500,000 Christians in ? ? ? ? ?

Who Are The Palestinians Page 298 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
"The Christians are being ethnically cleansed form Palestine by the arab muslims. And we took over 500,000 into the UK alone last year as asylum seekers."

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who knows, but they were Ottoman citizens. All Ottoman citizens, Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. became Palestinian citizens in 1925.

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

-------------------
Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”​

Just like I said.

link: Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Look, Palestine was never a sovereign state. They went from Ottoman rule to British rule.

So?

So? It was under control of the Ottoman empire and just a territory. The British came and conquered and then it was THEIR territory. They broke it up into Israel/Palestine. The Israelis never stole anything and have just as much right to be there as anyone.

When did Britain claim Possession of the territory?

 

[ChrisL]

No they didn't. Lies. Is that all you can do is lie?

The automatic, ipso facto, change from Ottoman to Palestinian nationality was dealt with in Article 1, paragraph 1, of the Citizenship Order, which declared:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in the territory of Palestine upon the 1st day of August, 1925, shall become Palestinian citizens.”​

-------------------
Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

“Turkish subjects habitually resident in territory which in accordance with the provisions of the present Treaty is detached from Turkey will become ipso facto, in the conditions laid down by the local law, nationals of the State to which such territory is transferred.”​

Just like I said.

link: Genesis of Citizenship in Palestine and Israel

Look, Palestine was never a sovereign state. They went from Ottoman rule to British rule.

So?

So? It was under control of the Ottoman empire and just a territory. The British came and conquered and then it was THEIR territory. They broke it up into Israel/Palestine. The Israelis never stole anything and have just as much right to be there as anyone.

When did Britain claim Possession of the territory?

How is that relevant? You will just grasp at ANY straw. Why don't you just give it up.

A German who hates Jews. How quaint. Lol.

 

[Challenger]

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

How did they manage that magic trick then Abdul seeing as muslims were not invented until 627 C.E. a full 223 years after the last Roman left. So that is LIE number 1, much touted by muslims. Then the Christians were not invented until the 4C by Romans so they could not have existed in any numbers until then, So LIE number 2 exposed. BUT the Jews lived in Judea and Samaria for 2500 before the Roman invasion, and still live there today 2000 years after the roman invasion.

THE JEWS WERE INVITED BY THE LANDS LEGAL OWNERS UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, FIRST THE OTTOMANS IN 1850 WHO WERE LOOKING AT GIVING THE JEWS PALESTINE AS THEIR HOMELAND. THEN THE LoN FROM 1917 WHO DID [ROMISE THE JEWS A HOMELAND IN PALESTINE.

So Lie number 3 put to bed as well