Who Are The Palestinians?

[montelatici]

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

 

[aris2chat]

sura 17:104 And We said after Pharaoh to the Children of Israel, "Dwell in the land, and when there comes the promise of the Hereafter, We will bring you forth in [one] gathering."

Palestine does not exist in arabic in any of the versions of the quran.

 

[montelatici]

can't get away from the fact it was the land of the jews.

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

What do Palestinian Christians care about the Koran?

King James Bible

The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

Exod 15:14

 

[ChrisL]

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

The overwhelming majority of Muslim Palestinians are just squatters on Israel's land with no titles or deeds whatsoever to the land they have stolen for generations now.

The only squatters are the European Jews that went to Palestine from Europe. The Christians and Muslims of Palestine have always been there whatever religion they were before.

And so have the Jews according to the Qu'ran. Right?

 

[Mr.Right]

Thank you. It's nice to see someone who understands the data and what it implicates.

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

What do Palestinian Christians care about the Koran?

King James Bible

The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

Exod 15:14

Just about every other Bible translation says philistia.

 

[P F Tinmore]

As much as they might want, the jewish past cannot be wiped out. Even if like ISIS the monuments and archeological evidence were destroyed, the historical documentation from other lands will still exist. The history and genealogy will still have been recorded. Knowledge of the jews will still live on....even within the quran

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

What do Palestinian Christians care about the Koran?

King James Bible

The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

Exod 15:14

Just about every other Bible translation says philistia.

The maps in my Bible call the place Palestine. The Christian programs I hear on the radio call the place Palestine.

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah, what's with those Zionists seeing these adorable Palestinians as a threat? Right Tinmore?

https://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/al-aqsa_martyrs_brigade.jpg

The Palestinians have resistance movements.

So?

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

FRom whom, not the civilians riding the buses drinking the tea in tea shops.

Or playing on the beach or watching football in a hotel.

While acting as human shields of course, or not even being there and getting brought in from a hamas killing.

 

[Phoenall]

Yeah, what's with those Zionists seeing these adorable Palestinians as a threat? Right Tinmore?

https://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/al-aqsa_martyrs_brigade.jpg

The Palestinians have resistance movements.

So?

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

 

[Phoenall]

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

terrorism and resistance are two different things. Targeting, purposely, civilians is not a valid defense tactic.

Indeed, Israel bombs schools, hospitals, apartment buildings, and family homes knowing that they are primarily killing civilians.

They target military areas that are placed illegally next to hospitals, schools, apartment buildings and family homes. So under International law the onus for the deaths falls at the arab muslims feet

 

[Challenger]

Nope, they have no country. They are Jordanian and Syrian Arabs. And even THOSE people don't want them.

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

Maybe not, but there was a sovereign Palestinian state Daher el-Omar - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

Another great point there. Jewish people are mentioned in the Qu'ran, which dates back to what? Over 1000 years ago?

Where are the millennia of artifacts and global documentation of a palestine? What is there before WWI beside rome changing the name of gaza and sinai into P-1, P-2 and P-3? A foreign name that is not part of the arab vocabulary till the 20th C

Obviously, Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire and nothing more. It never was a sovereign nation. The Islamic Arabs who have always hated the Jewish people, wanted to create a make-believe nation to give the Israelis a difficult time, IMO, and I think history supports that idea too. I do not believe there is any mention of "Palestine" in the Qu'ran.

What do Palestinian Christians care about the Koran?

King James Bible

The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

Exod 15:14

Just about every other Bible translation says philistia.

The maps in my Bible call the place Palestine. The Christian programs I hear on the radio call the place Palestine.

Because that is the accepted name for the area once called the Mandate for Palestine. It does not say on your maps nation of Palestine now does it

 

[Phoenall]

Who sold you that piece of bullshit. They are Palestinian Christians and Muslims, they were there during the reign of the Romans, Western and Eastern, the reign of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem and during the reign of the Ottomans. Same people. The Jews came from Europe in hordes to colonize Palestine.

What you call "Palestine" was once a "territory" controlled by the Ottoman empire and was never a "sovereign nation."

After how the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request for a Jew free Gaza there never should be any Palestinian State in Israel.

There should never have been a Jewish State in Palestine.

Also, there was no "Palestine" sovereign nation EVER. It was just a part of the Ottoman Empire before the Brits came.

Maybe not, but there was a sovereign Palestinian state Daher el-Omar - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Nope wrong again as your link shows

Daher el-Omar (also: Dhaher, Dhahar) (Arabic ظاهر آل عمر الزيداني ẓāhir Āl ʿumar az-zaydānī, ca. 1690 – August 21, 1775) was the autonomous Arab ruler of Northern Palestine during the mid-18th century.[1] The founder of modern Haifa, he fortified many cities, among them Acre.

No mention of a nation of Palestine in your link.

 

[Phoenall]

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

I too am opposed to the occupation. Problem is no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their native homelands. Do you think maybe Mecca would be a nice place for a Palestinian State?

Nobody wants them because they are the product of generations of hatred.

No cold hard facts, which is why Jordan has asked Israel to patrol the Jordan valley and Egypt has imposed their own blockade

 

[Phoenall]

Would a country in Europe accept 6 million Christians from another country?

Yes as we are not arab muslims, after all Europe has accepted 10 million muslims in the last year or so

 

[Phoenall]

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

I too am opposed to the occupation. Problem is no surrounding Arab country will grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their native homelands. Do you think maybe Mecca would be a nice place for a Palestinian State?

Nobody wants them because they are the product of generations of hatred.

Then you explain why nobody wants them?
They have like 14 islamic countries, why don't they live in one of them?

They have a country, it's called Palestine, currently occupied by a racist, Islamophobic regime that disposessed them. Those who want to live elsewhere have already gone to make new lives for themselves in Europe and America or wherever. The remainder wait.

Now this is BULLSHIT as they an claim that land anytime they want, yet they don't as they are not yet ready for free determination.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians have resistance movements.

So?

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

 

[Slyhunter]

They are illegal and in any fight they will be shot and you cant complain because they are breaching International law, humanitarian law, Geneva conventions and the UN charters. SO! how do you like them apples, as it is up to you to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they are not members of any "resistance movement" ( read terrorist organisation )

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard.

 

[Phoenall]

Would a country in Europe accept 6 million Christians from another country?

They do. All the time. They also accept Muslims, Jews, or whomever immigrates there legally. The fact is nobody wants the Palestinians because they are TROUBLE.

No country in Europe would accept 6 million people of any race, ethnicity or religion. The Palestinians are just Christians and Muslims resisting occupation and oppression. No one suggested that the South African non-whites leave South Africa to make room for the whites. After all, white ruled South Africa was surrounded by black ruled states. What makes the Christians and Muslims of Palestine any different?

The Christians are being ethnically cleansed form Palestine by the arab muslims. And we took over 500,000 into the UK alone last year as asylum seekers.


And again you go OFF TOPIC by bringing another nation an ocean and a continent away

 

[Challenger]

The Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

I've asked you many times to give me examples of how the Palestinians have defended themselves.

Anything that opposes the occupation and colonization of Palestine.

So targeting children is according to you defending against occupation, travelling to another nation on another continent and murdering unarmed innocent people is according to you defending against occupation.

Israel "defending" itself.

Children killed
TOTALS SINCE SEPT 2000:
Israelis: 131
Palestinians: 1656

Remember These Children

So you're blaming Israel because Hamas is pretty good at using civilians as shields?

No I'm blaming Israel because with the vast array of drones and high tech precision weapons at their disposal, they prefer to carpet bomb whole suburbs of Gaza and use artillery barrages, which aren't known for their discrimination, in one of the most densely populated areas in the world.