P F Tinmore
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The Treaty of Sevres was never ratified. Why did you quote it?P F Tinmore, et al,
This is nonsense.
(COMMENT)Not true, again. International law, the Treaty of Lausanne, and the mandate gave Palestine to the Palestinians.
During the 1920's, there was no international law applicable to the situation.
The Treaty of Lausanne (1924) makes no mention of either Palestine or Palestinians. Nothing in the Treaty of Lausanne changes anything concerning the outline of the Middle East situation or the stipulations made under the Treaty of Sevres.
However six years earlier, the signing abroad the Battleship HMS Agamemnon, the Armistice of Mudros brought to an end the participation of the Ottoman Empire in World War I --- effectively—if not legally—marking the dissolution of the empire. Under the terms of the armistice, the Ottomans surrendered their remaining garrisons in Hejaz, Yemen, Syria, Mesopotamia, Tripolitania, and Cyrenaica to the Allied Powers. The Treaty of Sevres (1920) made the surrender of the territory and relinquished sovereignty to the Allied Powers.
SECTION XIII --- Treaty of Sevres said:GENERAL PROVISIONS.
ARTICLE 132.
Outside her frontiers as fixed by the present Treaty Turkey hereby renounces in favour of the Principal Allied Powers all rights and title which she could claim on any ground over or concerning any territories outside Europe which are not otherwise disposed of by the present Treaty.
Turkey undertakes to recognise and conform to the measures which may be taken now or in the future by the Principal Allied Powers, in agreement where necessary with third Powers, in order to carry the above stipulation into effect.
The Article 22(8) Covenant, sets the degree of authority, control, or administration to be exercised by the Mandatory shall, if not previously agreed upon by the Members of the League, be explicitly defined in each case by the Council. The Mandate for Palestine was created by the Allied Powers for the Mandate and subject to the Council of the League of Nations (The consent of the Council of the League of Nations is required for any modification of the terms of this mandate.). The Mandate does not pass-on sovereignty as a directive to any other entity.
Most Respectfully,
- Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.
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The LoN Covenant and its mandate system are very much misunderstood. I think this is by design. The focus of the mandate system was to bring the people to independence. It was the people who were considered the sovereigns. The right to Palestinian independence and sovereignty is even stated in subsequent UN resolutions.
...independent nations can be provisionally recognized subject to the rendering of administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone.
See more at: League of Nations covenant - Peace Treaty of Versailles Peace Conference text Non-UN document 28 April 1919
See more at: League of Nations covenant - Peace Treaty of Versailles Peace Conference text Non-UN document 28 April 1919
The Mandate for Palestine was not Palestine. It was a temporarily assigned administration that held Palestine in trust. It had no land or borders. When the Mandate left Palestine, Palestine was still there.
Britain left Palestine without creating an independent state or a Jewish homeland. Its mandate was a complete flop.