Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake. Our Friend Hollie is absolutely correct in regard to the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA).

Maybe the UAE has decided that there are priorities other than throwing money at failure and incompetence.
The United Arab Emirates drastically reduced its funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees in 2020, the year it signed a United States-brokered normalisation accord with Israel that was heavily criticised by the Palestinian Authority.

That wasn't a peace agreement. It was an arms agreement.

(COMMENT)

It was NOT an arms agreement. There was a regional strategic political rider to it, but it had nothing to do with "arms" or defense support. The US already had a significant set of Understandings with the UAE for some time now. In fact, the US-UAE relations are so good that there are two USO locations in-country (Dubai+Dhabi) for US Military personnel. The US has had Defense Cooperation Agreement in place since 2019, with a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system (≈$28B) and a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process (≈ $7B) since about 2014; working out of the Air Forces Central Command Air Warfare Center. There is absolutely NO need for a supplemental Arms Agreement as you call it.

I think you have this mixed-up with something else.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake. Our Friend Hollie is absolutely correct in regard to the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA).

Maybe the UAE has decided that there are priorities other than throwing money at failure and incompetence.
The United Arab Emirates drastically reduced its funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees in 2020, the year it signed a United States-brokered normalisation accord with Israel that was heavily criticised by the Palestinian Authority.

That wasn't a peace agreement. It was an arms agreement.

(COMMENT)

It was NOT an arms agreement. There was a regional strategic political rider to it, but it had nothing to do with "arms" or defense support. The US already had a significant set of Understandings with the UAE for some time now. In fact, the US-UAE relations are so good that there are two USO locations in-country (Dubai+Dhabi) for US Military personnel. The US has had Defense Cooperation Agreement in place since 2019, with a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system (≈$28B) and a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process (≈ $7B) since about 2014; working out of the Air Forces Central Command Air Warfare Center. There is absolutely NO need for a supplemental Arms Agreement as you call it.

I think you have this mixed-up with something else.

Most Respectfully,
R

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

 

[rylah]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake. Our Friend Hollie is absolutely correct in regard to the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA).

Maybe the UAE has decided that there are priorities other than throwing money at failure and incompetence.
The United Arab Emirates drastically reduced its funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees in 2020, the year it signed a United States-brokered normalisation accord with Israel that was heavily criticised by the Palestinian Authority.

That wasn't a peace agreement. It was an arms agreement.

(COMMENT)

It was NOT an arms agreement. There was a regional strategic political rider to it, but it had nothing to do with "arms" or defense support. The US already had a significant set of Understandings with the UAE for some time now. In fact, the US-UAE relations are so good that there are two USO locations in-country (Dubai+Dhabi) for US Military personnel. The US has had Defense Cooperation Agreement in place since 2019, with a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system (≈$28B) and a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process (≈ $7B) since about 2014; working out of the Air Forces Central Command Air Warfare Center. There is absolutely NO need for a supplemental Arms Agreement as you call it.

I think you have this mixed-up with something else.

Most Respectfully,
R

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

Like the founder of UAE called Israel "the enemy of Arab countries",
and now Emiratis proudly call themselves friends, allies and Zionists?

Or like the Gulf states that were funding wars and attacks against Israel,
are now leading allies in the entire region?


Yeah, even the Trump haters so desperately try to belittle this achievement,
because they understand how HUGE is this breakthrough.

but don't tell them...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake. Our Friend Hollie is absolutely correct in regard to the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA).

Maybe the UAE has decided that there are priorities other than throwing money at failure and incompetence.
The United Arab Emirates drastically reduced its funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees in 2020, the year it signed a United States-brokered normalisation accord with Israel that was heavily criticised by the Palestinian Authority.

That wasn't a peace agreement. It was an arms agreement.

(COMMENT)

It was NOT an arms agreement. There was a regional strategic political rider to it, but it had nothing to do with "arms" or defense support. The US already had a significant set of Understandings with the UAE for some time now. In fact, the US-UAE relations are so good that there are two USO locations in-country (Dubai+Dhabi) for US Military personnel. The US has had Defense Cooperation Agreement in place since 2019, with a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system (≈$28B) and a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process (≈ $7B) since about 2014; working out of the Air Forces Central Command Air Warfare Center. There is absolutely NO need for a supplemental Arms Agreement as you call it.

I think you have this mixed-up with something else.

Most Respectfully,
R

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake. Our Friend Hollie is absolutely correct in regard to the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA).

Maybe the UAE has decided that there are priorities other than throwing money at failure and incompetence.
The United Arab Emirates drastically reduced its funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees in 2020, the year it signed a United States-brokered normalisation accord with Israel that was heavily criticised by the Palestinian Authority.

That wasn't a peace agreement. It was an arms agreement.

(COMMENT)

It was NOT an arms agreement. There was a regional strategic political rider to it, but it had nothing to do with "arms" or defense support. The US already had a significant set of Understandings with the UAE for some time now. In fact, the US-UAE relations are so good that there are two USO locations in-country (Dubai+Dhabi) for US Military personnel. The US has had Defense Cooperation Agreement in place since 2019, with a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) system (≈$28B) and a Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) process (≈ $7B) since about 2014; working out of the Air Forces Central Command Air Warfare Center. There is absolutely NO need for a supplemental Arms Agreement as you call it.

I think you have this mixed-up with something else.

Most Respectfully,
R

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

Indeed, it is interesting that there would be peace agreements with Islamic terrorists seeking a holy war.

How strange that you claim ''this is not a religious conflict'' when the Islamic terrorist psychopaths tell us differently. "One song called on Allah ‎and spoke of “ritually purifying” oneself with one’s blood.''



PA values:‎ Purify yourself with your blood, ‎ make sure your bullets hit the target…‎

PA values:‎ Purify yourself with your blood, ‎ make sure your bullets hit the target…‎ | PMW Analysis

Official PA TV narrator: “Because songs are a basic part of our ‎culture and they express our national identity… and because these ‎songs are present in our consciousness and still fascinate us with ‎values and meanings… It’s here: ‘The Tune of the Homeland.’”‎

palwatch.org

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Feb 14, 2021

• ‎“O self-sacrificing fighter, ignite it, ignite it everywhere, make sure ‎the cannon is a fire burning by night”‎

The Palestinian Authority is using its current TV quiz series about ‎Palestinian cultural songs to stress that violence and confrontation remain ‎lofty PA ideals. Palestinian Media Watch has exposed that most of the songs ‎that “fascinate… with values and meanings” chosen by the PA for the quiz ‎until now present PA’s “cultural and… national identity” as being about rifles, ‎violence, ‎murderers, and Martyrdom: ‎
Two recent songs featured in the quiz also focused on this. One song called on Allah ‎and spoke of “ritually purifying” oneself with one’s blood. Whereas a Muslim ‎ritually purifies himself before prayer with water, in the PA song the water has been ‎changed to one’s own blood. In other words - sacrifice yourself and aspire ‎death as a “Martyr” - while attacking Israel with “the bullets of the revolution”:‎

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Well, they surely do not want Israel's version of peace.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, I should have said International Armed Conflict.

Happy now?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, I should have said International Armed Conflict.

Happy now?

No reason to add “international”. You should have written “armed conflict.”

Do it again, write it correctly.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Well, they surely do not want Israel's version of peace.

What version was that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Well, they surely do not want Israel's version of peace.

What version was that?

Israel gets to keep everything it has stolen.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Abraham Accords Peace Agreement (AAPA)
⁜→ P F Tinmore, Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I think you made a mistake, yet again.

It is interesting that there would "peace" agreements without war.

It is interesting that the Palestinians are losers but the Israelis didn't win.

(COMMENT)

"War" is a layman's terminology. The correct terminology under international humanitarian law is either:

International Armed Conflict (IAC)​

Common Article 2 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

​

....................................or​

​

Non-International Armed Conflict (NIAC)​

Article 3 to the Geneva Conventions of 1949​

I have seen people get entangled with these concepts when they mix the layman's terminology with the same discussion with technical terminology as you have done here.

A “treaty” means an international agreement concluded between States in written form and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation.

The combination of two terms "Peace Treaty" can be on any topic or subject in the spirit of A/RES/25/2625 - Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States (1970). "Peace Treaties" are framed on "the principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered." This is opposite the common political theory of the Arab Palestinian, when this year the focus of Fatah is armed struggle.

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Arab Palestinians are NOT looking for peace.

Well, they surely do not want Israel's version of peace.

What version was that?

Israel gets to keep everything it has stolen.

What was stolen?

You make nonsensical statements, totally unsupported and then fail to provide evidence.

 

[Hollie]

With the near daily incitement to violence, glorification of death, hero worship of Islamic terrorist psychopaths, etc., promoted by the Pally Death Cult, the “Peaceful gee-had” moniker means that Israel must respond immediately and forcefully to Pally acts of Islamic terrorism directed at Israel and Israeli citizens.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/02/12/the-statistics-of-blood/

Makuma salamiya ("peaceful, non-violent resistance"), as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has taken care to refer to the thousands of terrorist attacks and attempted terrorist attacks against Israelis, has prompted 534 major attacks in the last six years, and tens of thousands more "ordinary" attacks (meaning rock throwing and Molotov cocktails).

In that six-year period, 85 Israelis were killed and over 1,000 wounded in Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria in attacks that the Palestinians called "popular terrorism." In those same six years, Israeli security forces thwarted over 2,000 more major attacks planned as part of this "popular terrorism." These blood-soaked statistics, based on the idea of "peaceful, non-violent resistance," will probably not be investigated at The Hague.

 

[Hollie]

This particular “preacher” has “Allah” as a last name so you know with certainty that you don’t want to be on the business end of his Koran.

Oh, and don’t forget the carnal pleasures of those 72 black-eyed virgins. For the sexually frustrated Pally male, those virgins are a real enticement.

Gaza Preacher Hassan Faraj Allah: Modern Day Martyrs Will Have Their Guns And Rockets Testify For Them On Judgment Day Instead Of Bloodied Swords



The Pally gee-had is modernizing. “Guns and rockets” vs. the imagery of Arab invaders / colonists on horseback

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Prayer - Cover by Lina Sleibi ft. Milad Fatouleh/Filmed in Bethlehem- Manger Sq. Nativity Church

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Turkish Feminist to Linda Sarsour: 'Shut Your Mouth'

 

[Hollie]

Aside from problems the ICC faces in terms of credibility, jurisdiction and bias, the Pally’s may face some pushback from Israel.

Gov't may weigh sanctions on PA leaders over ICC case

Unilaterally joining international organizations as if the PA is a state, and opening a war crimes suit are violations of the Oslo Accords, Israeli officials have argued.

m.jpost.com

The government may consider sanctions on Palestinian Authorityleaders following last week’s International Criminal Court ruling that it has the jurisdiction to investigate allegations of Israeli war crimes.

The ruling came after the Palestinian Authority acceded to the Rome Statute and became a member of the ICC in 2015. It then lodged a complaint about alleged war crimes in “occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem.”

 

[Hollie]

An Arab Member of the Israeli Knesset?

Apartheid, I tell ya’.

Somebody call the UN.

Palestinians Furious After Israeli-Arab MK Calls Terrorists “Terrorists”

Mansour Abbas has been ruffling a lot of features of late among both Israeli Arabs and Palestinians.

www.israeltoday.co.il

Arab Member of Knesset Mansour Abbas faced harsh condemnation from the Palestinian Authority (PA) after having made “embarrassing and shameful ‎statements” about terrorist prisoners, who ‎are not terrorists but are “heroic,” according to the PA.‎