Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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Another tactic used in the islamist gee-had is car ramming of Israeli police, civilians and soldiers.



 

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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Ahh, the Hamas lady posts again.

BTW, only a few percent of Palestinians are Hamas.
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You keep telling me that HAMAS won the electron in 2006 (I think.) That means that the majority of the Arab Palestinians actively supported a state that supports asymmetric violence. It was HAMAS that organized the thousands and thousands of people to threaten the border demarcation. They supported a HAMAS that indiscriminately fired rockets by the thousands into Israel. They chose to support a government that incited violence and encouraged individual attacks. It was that the same people that march in the streets with HAMAS.

Remember, for more than three decades, HAMAS has had a stated policy that "Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights." How is that leadership working out for them? Name one piece of territory that the Hostile Arab Palestinians have liberated following HAMAS strategy (or any strategy)?

Yeah, you keep telling me how peaceful these people are, yet the records don't show that at all.

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You talk like an Israeli.

People voted for Hamas because Fatah is totally corrupt.

How many people voted for Biden because they like him?
 

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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Ahh, the Hamas lady posts again.

BTW, only a few percent of Palestinians are Hamas.
(COMMENT)

You keep telling me that HAMAS won the electron in 2006 (I think.) That means that the majority of the Arab Palestinians actively supported a state that supports asymmetric violence. It was HAMAS that organized the thousands and thousands of people to threaten the border demarcation. They supported a HAMAS that indiscriminately fired rockets by the thousands into Israel. They chose to support a government that incited violence and encouraged individual attacks. It was that the same people that march in the streets with HAMAS.

Remember, for more than three decades, HAMAS has had a stated policy that "Jihad and the armed resistance is the right and real method for the liberation of Palestine, and the restoration of all the rights." How is that leadership working out for them? Name one piece of territory that the Hostile Arab Palestinians have liberated following HAMAS strategy (or any strategy)?

Yeah, you keep telling me how peaceful these people are, yet the records don't show that at all.

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R
You talk like an Israeli.

People voted for Hamas because Fatah is totally corrupt.

How many people voted for Biden because they like him?
That was pointless.
 

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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You talk like an Israeli.
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I'm not sure why you want to Insult the Israelis so!

People voted for Hamas because Fatah is totally corrupt.
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Well, I think that both sides were extremely corrupt. Both sides find the continuation of the conflict most profitable. Even without the US contributions, the donor nations are still kicking-in a considerable sum. (Those Suits by Giorgio Armani get more expensive every year.)

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Razan al-Najjar, 20, was trying to help an injured protester near the border fence when she was fatally shot by Israeli soldiers, witnesses say. Last month, she spoke to The Times about the challenges she faced as a female medical volunteer.

 

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Razan al-Najjar, 20, was trying to help an injured protester near the border fence when she was fatally shot by Israeli soldiers, witnesses say. Last month, she spoke to The Times about the challenges she faced as a female medical volunteer.

Standing next to a group of terrorists can be bad for your health.
 

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Razan al-Najjar, 20, was trying to help an injured protester near the border fence when she was fatally shot by Israeli soldiers, witnesses say. Last month, she spoke to The Times about the challenges she faced as a female medical volunteer.

Standing next to a group of terrorists can be bad for your health.
It is illagal to shoot medics.
 

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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You talk like an Israeli.
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I'm not sure why you want to Insult the Israelis so!

People voted for Hamas because Fatah is totally corrupt.
(COMMENT)

Well, I think that both sides were extremely corrupt. Both sides find the continuation of the conflict most profitable. Even without the US contributions, the donor nations are still kicking-in a considerable sum. (Those Suits by Giorgio Armani get more expensive every year.)

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R
Both sides find the continuation of the conflict most profitable.
You keep forgetting that Israel is the aggressor.
 

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
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BLUF: When, in May 1948, Israel came into existence, the first shots fired were from the forces of the Arab League that jumped across their borders and into the Trustee Territory or Israeli sovereignty.

CONCEPT POINT: "A threat to its neighbors and to the entire world" is what has been described by Noam Chomsky as a Rogue State. And the legal framework behind it is the UN Charter (Treaty Equivalent). The UN Charter is part of the formulation for (what Chomsky calls) international law and world order.
(See: Acts of Aggression • Policing Rogue States • Copyright © 1999 by Noam Chomsky, Ramsey Clark, and Edward W. Said)

Both sides find the continuation of the conflict most profitable.
You keep forgetting that Israel is the aggressor.
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The Arab - Israeli Conflict (now mostly Israel 'vs' Hostile Arab Palestinians) has been a work in progress since the moment Israel was established. Israel is not the Rogue State it is often portrayed to be. And there is no such thing as a "perfect" State. It is also important to note that the Arab League forces entered the fray claiming to be operating in the best interest of the Arab Palestinian People. As King Abdullah said in the 15 MAY 1948 Cable, "to protect unarmed Arabs against massacres similar to those of Deir Yasin" - and - "maintaining at the same time the full rights of the Arabs in Palestine." However, the tension between Israel and the Arab League continued throughout the Armistice until Arab League forces were massed along the borders with Israel. There is no question that they were in a threatening posture. The initial catalyst igniting the breaking of the Armistice was the Arab League's violation of the pledge that "Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state."
Special Committee on the Question of Defining Aggression said:
Article 2
The First use of armed force by a State in contravention of the Charter shall constitute prima facie evidence of an act of aggression although the Security Council may, in conformity with the Charter, conclude that a determination that an act of aggression has been committed would not be justified in the light of other relevant circumstances, including the fact that the acts concerned or their consequences are not of sufficient gravity.
SOURCE: A/RES/29/3314
When a small country like Israel is faced with the combined forces of several Arab League nations, posed for the attack, it must take decisive action.

Israel did not exist prior to May 1948. It could not have been the aggressor. And until the Peace Treaties between the Arab League members, the conflict was merely an extension of the 1948 Conflict initiated by the Arab League. But none of that rules the day, today. What is important to note is that the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) never accepted the "peace" that was accepted by Egypt and Jordan. And that is the face of the conflict today. It is the State of Israel 'vs' the HoAP; consisting of
(State and non-State actors) Jihadist, Fedayeen Activist, Hostile Insurgents, Radicalized Islamic Followers, and Asymmetric Fighters that did not accept the negotiated peace.

When we take about the acts of Aggression, we are the HoAP and their boosters (Iran IRGC-Quds Force) that refuse to accept peace with Israel. Today, it is no longer a conflict which is an extension of the 1948 War. The Armistice Agreements
(from which the Armistice Lines were derived) were only to "remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved."

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BLUF: When, in May 1948, Israel came into existence, the first shots fired were from the forces of the Arab League that jumped across their borders and into the Trustee Territory or Israeli sovereignty.
Stupid statement. If someone breaks into tour house and you shoot him are you the aggressor because you fired the first shot.

And besides, many Palestinians were shot by the British on the behest of the Zionists during the Mandate period.
 

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Israel did not exist prior to May 1948. It could not have been the aggressor. And until the Peace Treaties between the Arab League members, the conflict was merely an extension of the 1948 Conflict initiated by the Arab League.
None of that has anything to do with Palestinian land.
 

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Today, it is no longer a conflict which is an extension of the 1948 War. The Armistice Agreements (from which the Armistice Lines were derived) were only to "remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved."
Has nothing to do with Palestine.
 

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Israel did not exist prior to May 1948. It could not have been the aggressor. And until the Peace Treaties between the Arab League members, the conflict was merely an extension of the 1948 Conflict initiated by the Arab League.
None of that has anything to do with Palestinian land.
What Pali land?

Iink?
 

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