Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

 

[Hollie]

It’s all date palms and camel’s milk In the competing mini-caliphates of Gaza and the West Bank.

Basically, the dictatorship ruling Gaza represents the worst form of Islamic dictatorship. The West Bank is the same. Hey, there’s a surprise.

Here’s the rundown.

• With respect to Hamas: reports of unlawful or arbitrary killings, systematic torture, and arbitrary detention by Hamas officials; political prisoners; arbitrary or unlawful interference with privacy; restrictions on free expression, the press, and the internet, including violence, threats of violence, unjustified arrests and prosecutions against journalists, censorship, site blocking, and the existence of criminal libel laws; substantial interference with the rights of peaceful assembly and freedom of association; restrictions on political participation, as there has been no national election since 2006; acts of corruption; violence and threats of violence motivated by anti-Semitism; unlawful recruitment and use of child soldiers; violence and threats of violence targeting LGBTI persons; the criminalization of consensual same-sex sexual conduct between adults; and forced or compulsory child labor.

West Bank and Gaza - United States Department of State

www.state.gov

What you might describe as one, long, Islamo-nightmare that has remained largely static since the 7th century.

 

[rylah]

I suspect sooner rather than later, the landscape in and around Gaza is going to be flatter.

Israeli mayors demand action amid spate of incendiary balloon attacks from Gaza

More than a dozen fires in the south said started by Gaza balloons; Hamas also fires rockets into sea in 'message' to Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

Israeli mayors demand action amid spate of incendiary balloon attacks from Gaza.

More than a dozen fires in the south said started by Gaza balloons; Hamas also fires rockets into sea in ‘message’ to Israel

How long has Israel been doing the wrong thing?

What wrong thing?

Your silly one-liners are incoherent.

For 20 years Israel has been trying to stop attacks out of Gaza.

How long does it take to realize that you are failing?

Maybe, you folks are just too used to having time on your side.

I bet you still sell the "what will happen when Arabs become a majority..."

 

[rylah]

In a regular apartment, just like all mortals?

Or better deported to one of their surrounding Jihadi shitholes

And by the sight of that mansion I'm sure they can BUY YOU an apartment or two.

Let every Jihadi mother know the inevitable price of making a Jewish mother cry.

 

[Hollie]

I suspect sooner rather than later, the landscape in and around Gaza is going to be flatter.

Israeli mayors demand action amid spate of incendiary balloon attacks from Gaza

More than a dozen fires in the south said started by Gaza balloons; Hamas also fires rockets into sea in 'message' to Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

Israeli mayors demand action amid spate of incendiary balloon attacks from Gaza.

More than a dozen fires in the south said started by Gaza balloons; Hamas also fires rockets into sea in ‘message’ to Israel

How long has Israel been doing the wrong thing?

What wrong thing?

Your silly one-liners are incoherent.

For 20 years Israel has been trying to stop attacks out of Gaza.

How long does it take to realize that you are failing?

I understand your desperation. Decades of Hamas Charters that achieved nothing, failed gee-had, Stateless, abandoned by Arab nations, failed marches to crash the Israeli border, forced to bend and scrape before the Shia Iranians and now, now of all things, the UAE making trade, tourism and a peace deal with Israel... it makes you want to jump in front of a speeding bus, right?

On the other hand, if Israel is forced to react to Islamic terrorist aggression, they could utterly devastate the Islamic terrorist presence in Gaza.


Oh the pain!

Israel, UAE reach historic peace deal: ‘We can make a wonderful future’

Third-ever peace treaty between Israel and an Arab state includes embassies, direct flights; agreement “suspends” annexation, but Netanyahu says: “I will never give up on our right to our land.”

m.jpost.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

The Arabs-Moslems occupying Gaza and the West Bank are a bit miffed that another Arab nation has opened diplomatic ties with Israel.


How the world reacted to UAE, Israel normalising diplomatic ties

How the world reacted to UAE, Israel normalising diplomatic ties

Nations, groups and individual stakeholders in Israeli-Palestine conflict react to UAE and Israel normalising relations.

www.aljazeera.com

In a statement issued by his spokesman, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas denounced the accord.


"The Palestinian leadership rejects and denounces the UAE, Israeli and US trilateral, surprising announcement," said Nabil Abu Rudeineh, a senior adviser to Abbas.

Abu Rudeineh, reading from a statement outside Abbas's headquarters in Ramallah in the occupied West Bank, said the deal was a "betrayal of Jerusalem, Al-Aqsa and the Palestinian cause."

Hanan Ashrawi, an outspoken member of the Palestinian Liberation Organization's executive committee who has served in various leadership positions in Palestine, said the UAE's announcement was the equivalent of being "sold out" by "friends".

 

[Hollie]

I thought I read somewhere that the UAE had also agreed to converting Mahmoud’s presidential mansion in the West Bank into a Jewish Temple, although I could be wrong about that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israel-uae-deal-condemned-by-palestinians-cheered-by-egypt-and-bahrain/2020/08/13/bc352be2-dd7c-11ea-b4f1-25b762cdbbf4_story.html

JERUSALEM — An announcement Thursday by the United Arab Emirates that it was pursuing formal ties with Israel was condemned by Palestinians as a betrayal by a putative Arab ally and a crushing setback to their national aspirations.


Bahrain and Egypt, two of the UAE’s closest regional allies, praised the agreement. Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi, writing on Twitter, said it aimed to “stop Israel’s annexation of the Palestinian territories” and “achieve prosperity and stability for our region.”

Bahrain, which has signaled that it too is open to formal ties with Israel, said the UAE had shown “wise leadership” and taken a step “toward the achievement of peace in the Middle East.”

 

[Sixties Fan]

The dynamic is now different. If the PLO can no longer rely on the Arab world to reflexively support it, it has to recalibrate its strategy. At the moment it has no leader with the foresight or the courage to do that. However, a prerequisite for any sort of peace is Israeli security – and Israel’s psychological security is as important as its physical security.

If Israel feels like it is a part of the Middle East, and that it is a true ally with the Arab world, and if it knows that its Arab friends want peace more than they want to see Israel disappear, it will be more willing to take chances for peace.

If the Palestinians realize that their strategy of relying on a solid wall of Arab support has failed, they will face a stark choice of becoming a vassal of Iran and becoming a mini-Syria or Lebanon, or choosing to do what is best for their own people.

So far in their brief history, Palestinian leaders have consistently made the worst choices. I see no reason to think that is going to change. But this diplomatic lightning strike gives them the chance, at least, to wake up.

(full article online)

Former Palestinian negotiator: UAE deal will HELP Palestinians

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

elderofziyon.blogspot.com

 

[Hollie]

“Tel Aviv City Hall lit up with the flag of the United Arab Emirates”

Yep. Big enough to be seen from the West Bank.

Shifting alliances in that part of the world. Bahrain may be next to announce an (un)easy peace agreement with Israel. I have to think that as time goes on and mutually beneficial trade, business alliances, tourism, etc., expand, there will be greater incentives to maintain those relations.

Very positive for the region.

Israel-UAE deal leaves Palestinians more isolated than ever

Analysis: “May you never be sold out by your 'friends,'” veteran Palestinian politician Hanan Ashrawi tweeted in reaction to the announcement of the agreement.

www.nbcnews.com

Tel Aviv City Hall lit up with the flag of the United Arab Emirates on Thursday after the UAE announced it was establishing full diplomatic ties with Israel.

 

[toastman]

It's a bit like adult reptiles eating their young.


PA school honors 17-year-old suicide bomber on plaque at entrance

PA school honors 17-year-old suicide bomber on plaque at entrance | PMW Translations

"Martyr Ayyat Al-Akhras"

palwatch.org

Bethlehem High School for Girls, Facebook | Nov 19, 2019

Image posted on the Facebook page of the Bethlehem High School for Girls
The image shows girls posing in front of the Bethlehem High School for Girls.
Next to the school entrance, is a sign in memory of the “Martyrs” of the PA terror campaign (the second Intifada, 2000-2005).

Text on sign: “This memorial was established in cooperation between the Education Directorate (i.e., branch of the PA Ministry of Education) and the Fatah Shabiba [Youth Movement] organization, in order to commemorate the Martyrs of the Al-Aqsa Intifada (i.e., PA terror campaign 2000-2005, more than 1,100 Israelis murdered) at the Bethlehem High School for Girls for the anniversary of the outbreak of the Palestinian revolution

OK,so? One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.

It is a matter of opinion.

Thanks for showing us your true colours Tinmore. How Ian blowing yourself up in a cafe considered ‘freedom fighting’?

 

[Hollie]

Oh, no. Shock and dismay.

Palestinians unanimously reject UAE-Israel deal

All Palestinian factions, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, issued statements denouncing the UAE-Israel agreement.

www.aljazeera.com

Gaza City - Palestinians reacted with shock and dismay after US President Donald Trump unveiled an agreement between the United Arab Emirates and Israel to normalise ties.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ toastman, et al,

Thanks for showing us your true colours Tinmore. How Ian blowing yourself up in a cafe considered ‘freedom fighting’?

(COMMENT)

In certain circles, "suicide bomber" is a Synonym for "martyr."


Most Respectfully,
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[Toddsterpatriot]

Oh, no. Shock and dismay.

Palestinians unanimously reject UAE-Israel deal

All Palestinian factions, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, issued statements denouncing the UAE-Israel agreement.

www.aljazeera.com

Gaza City - Palestinians reacted with shock and dismay after US President Donald Trump unveiled an agreement between the United Arab Emirates and Israel to normalise ties.

Did anyone ask for their input?

 

[Hollie]

"...many Arab states, long rhetorically supportive of the Palestinians...''

Yes, how times have changed. While the Arabs-Moslems in Gaza and the West Bank have been a convenient tool for Arabs in the Middle East to use as a flail against Israel, the Arabs need Israel to counter Shia Iran.

While Qatar has occasionally thrown suitcases of cash at Hamas, the last five (plus) years has shown that the Arab world has largely moved on to address regional threats from Iran and Pals have been left to be yesterday's news.

Palestine Is an Afterthought in the Latest Middle East Deal

The plan frames Middle East peace as a question of Muslim-Jewish reconciliation, rather than the necessity of Palestinian statehood.

www.barrons.com

The Palestinians will probably never achieve statehood, and the newly formalized United Arab Emirates-Israel diplomatic relationship is neither the first nor the last acknowledgment of that sad truth. But regional developments continue to add nails to the proverbial coffin of Palestinian self-determination. The irony is that while support for Palestinian rights in the U.S. is slowly but steadily strengthening, many Arab states, long rhetorically supportive of the Palestinians, are now more openly embracing an Israel that has politically moved far to the right.

 

[Hollie]

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Ramallah [Palestine], August 14 (Sputnik/ANI): Palestine President Mahmoud Abbas on Thursday denounced the agreement between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, his spokesperson said.




So there's that.



News sites are reporting that emails from Yassir Arafat have been circulating confirming his commitment to the Oslo Accords.

 

[Hollie]

There was a collective snicker and a congratulatory islamo-high five in Abu-Dhabi and the UAE.

Palestine recalls ambassador to Abu Dhabi

Move comes after Israel, UAE agreed to normalize relations - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Palestine recalls ambassador from UAE after it establishes diplomatic ties with Israel

The Palestinian ambassador to the UAE is being recalled over Abu Dhabi’s decision to establish diplomatic ties with Israel, which Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has called “treason.”

www.rt.com