Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[P F Tinmore]

Mahmoud may be having some trouble fogging a mirror so the race is on to be the winner of the mini-caliphate’s presidential jet.

It’s probable that, as noted in the linked article, various islamo-street gangs will take up arms against the competing gangs. At stake is control of millions of welfare dollars and individual fortunes for the winners of the welfare fraud prize.

Hamas will not sit idly by as street warfare consumes the competing mini-caliphate. The ugly (and very messy), civil war that consumed the competing mini-caliphates more than a decade ago may seem mild by comparison.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article241870541.html

An increasingly intense struggle to succeed the aging and ailing president of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, is under way.

The use of armed militias may be key to a contender’s success.

Armed support will be needed if the power struggle turns violent. Such militias could be ordered to take control of symbolic government sites, like the headquarters of the Palestinian Authority presidency in Ramallah, or TV and radio stations. While the PA has not clashed with such militias until now, their presence is a looming one.

It is funny that these propagandists never mention that the constitution lays out the procedures to replace a president.

Of course the US and Israel will not allow that to happen. More of that illegal external interference.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

If the office of the President of the National Authority becomes vacant due to any of the above cases, the Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council shall assume the powers and duties of the Presidency of the National Authority, temporarily for a period not exceeding (60) sixty days, during which free and direct elections to choose a new president shall take place in accordance with the Palestinian Election Law.

Constitution of Palestine (2003) - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

This won't happen and Palestine will be stuck with another appointed leader.

When was the last time the Palestinian Legislative Council met?

A faux agency that exists only on letterhead for the convenience of an Islamic dictator.

When was the last time the Palestinian Legislative Council met?

Before the US coup in 2007.

Your usual retreat to conspiracy theories.

What coup?

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

The Gaza Bombshell

After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current...

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Hollie]

Mahmoud may be having some trouble fogging a mirror so the race is on to be the winner of the mini-caliphate’s presidential jet.

It’s probable that, as noted in the linked article, various islamo-street gangs will take up arms against the competing gangs. At stake is control of millions of welfare dollars and individual fortunes for the winners of the welfare fraud prize.

Hamas will not sit idly by as street warfare consumes the competing mini-caliphate. The ugly (and very messy), civil war that consumed the competing mini-caliphates more than a decade ago may seem mild by comparison.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article241870541.html

An increasingly intense struggle to succeed the aging and ailing president of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, is under way.

The use of armed militias may be key to a contender’s success.

Armed support will be needed if the power struggle turns violent. Such militias could be ordered to take control of symbolic government sites, like the headquarters of the Palestinian Authority presidency in Ramallah, or TV and radio stations. While the PA has not clashed with such militias until now, their presence is a looming one.

It is funny that these propagandists never mention that the constitution lays out the procedures to replace a president.

Of course the US and Israel will not allow that to happen. More of that illegal external interference.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

If the office of the President of the National Authority becomes vacant due to any of the above cases, the Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council shall assume the powers and duties of the Presidency of the National Authority, temporarily for a period not exceeding (60) sixty days, during which free and direct elections to choose a new president shall take place in accordance with the Palestinian Election Law.

Constitution of Palestine (2003) - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

This won't happen and Palestine will be stuck with another appointed leader.

It’s odd that you would presume Islamic terrorist dictators would abide by a “Constitution”. Isn’t there something in the mini-caliphate Constitution about term limits for dictators?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Not sure what you mean by “Palestine”. When did the West Bank, aka the Abbas mini-caliphate, magically become the “Magical Kingdom of Pally’land”?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Do you mean the foreign appointed leaders?

I meant the coup you claimed happened but couldn’t support with fact.

Link?

 

[Hollie]

Mahmoud may be having some trouble fogging a mirror so the race is on to be the winner of the mini-caliphate’s presidential jet.

It’s probable that, as noted in the linked article, various islamo-street gangs will take up arms against the competing gangs. At stake is control of millions of welfare dollars and individual fortunes for the winners of the welfare fraud prize.

Hamas will not sit idly by as street warfare consumes the competing mini-caliphate. The ugly (and very messy), civil war that consumed the competing mini-caliphates more than a decade ago may seem mild by comparison.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article241870541.html

An increasingly intense struggle to succeed the aging and ailing president of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, is under way.

The use of armed militias may be key to a contender’s success.

Armed support will be needed if the power struggle turns violent. Such militias could be ordered to take control of symbolic government sites, like the headquarters of the Palestinian Authority presidency in Ramallah, or TV and radio stations. While the PA has not clashed with such militias until now, their presence is a looming one.

It is funny that these propagandists never mention that the constitution lays out the procedures to replace a president.

Of course the US and Israel will not allow that to happen. More of that illegal external interference.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

If the office of the President of the National Authority becomes vacant due to any of the above cases, the Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council shall assume the powers and duties of the Presidency of the National Authority, temporarily for a period not exceeding (60) sixty days, during which free and direct elections to choose a new president shall take place in accordance with the Palestinian Election Law.

Constitution of Palestine (2003) - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

This won't happen and Palestine will be stuck with another appointed leader.

When was the last time the Palestinian Legislative Council met?

A faux agency that exists only on letterhead for the convenience of an Islamic dictator.

When was the last time the Palestinian Legislative Council met?

Before the US coup in 2007.

Your usual retreat to conspiracy theories.

What coup?

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

The Gaza Bombshell

After failing to anticipate Hamas’s victory over Fatah in the 2006 Palestinian election, the White House cooked up yet another scandalously covert and self-defeating Middle East debacle: part Iran-contra, part Bay of Pigs. With confidential documents, corroborated by outraged former and current...

www.vanityfair.com

As noted before, your silly “coup” conspiracy theory is a complete fabrication.

 

[Hollie]

Arabs-Moslems and their disposable children. Very disturbing.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Mahmoud may be having some trouble fogging a mirror so the race is on to be the winner of the mini-caliphate’s presidential jet.

It’s probable that, as noted in the linked article, various islamo-street gangs will take up arms against the competing gangs. At stake is control of millions of welfare dollars and individual fortunes for the winners of the welfare fraud prize.

Hamas will not sit idly by as street warfare consumes the competing mini-caliphate. The ugly (and very messy), civil war that consumed the competing mini-caliphates more than a decade ago may seem mild by comparison.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article241870541.html

An increasingly intense struggle to succeed the aging and ailing president of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, is under way.

The use of armed militias may be key to a contender’s success.

Armed support will be needed if the power struggle turns violent. Such militias could be ordered to take control of symbolic government sites, like the headquarters of the Palestinian Authority presidency in Ramallah, or TV and radio stations. While the PA has not clashed with such militias until now, their presence is a looming one.

It is funny that these propagandists never mention that the constitution lays out the procedures to replace a president.

Of course the US and Israel will not allow that to happen. More of that illegal external interference.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

If the office of the President of the National Authority becomes vacant due to any of the above cases, the Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council shall assume the powers and duties of the Presidency of the National Authority, temporarily for a period not exceeding (60) sixty days, during which free and direct elections to choose a new president shall take place in accordance with the Palestinian Election Law.

Constitution of Palestine (2003) - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

This won't happen and Palestine will be stuck with another appointed leader.

It’s odd that you would presume Islamic terrorist dictators would abide by a “Constitution”. Isn’t there something in the mini-caliphate Constitution about term limits for dictators?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Not sure what you mean by “Palestine”. When did the West Bank, aka the Abbas mini-caliphate, magically become the “Magical Kingdom of Pally’land”?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Do you mean the foreign appointed leaders?

I meant the coup you claimed happened but couldn’t support with fact.

Link?

On The Map with Avi Lewis: Gaza Coup d'Etat?

 

[Hollie]

Mahmoud may be having some trouble fogging a mirror so the race is on to be the winner of the mini-caliphate’s presidential jet.

It’s probable that, as noted in the linked article, various islamo-street gangs will take up arms against the competing gangs. At stake is control of millions of welfare dollars and individual fortunes for the winners of the welfare fraud prize.

Hamas will not sit idly by as street warfare consumes the competing mini-caliphate. The ugly (and very messy), civil war that consumed the competing mini-caliphates more than a decade ago may seem mild by comparison.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article241870541.html

An increasingly intense struggle to succeed the aging and ailing president of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, is under way.

The use of armed militias may be key to a contender’s success.

Armed support will be needed if the power struggle turns violent. Such militias could be ordered to take control of symbolic government sites, like the headquarters of the Palestinian Authority presidency in Ramallah, or TV and radio stations. While the PA has not clashed with such militias until now, their presence is a looming one.

It is funny that these propagandists never mention that the constitution lays out the procedures to replace a president.

Of course the US and Israel will not allow that to happen. More of that illegal external interference.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

If the office of the President of the National Authority becomes vacant due to any of the above cases, the Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council shall assume the powers and duties of the Presidency of the National Authority, temporarily for a period not exceeding (60) sixty days, during which free and direct elections to choose a new president shall take place in accordance with the Palestinian Election Law.

Constitution of Palestine (2003) - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

This won't happen and Palestine will be stuck with another appointed leader.

It’s odd that you would presume Islamic terrorist dictators would abide by a “Constitution”. Isn’t there something in the mini-caliphate Constitution about term limits for dictators?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Not sure what you mean by “Palestine”. When did the West Bank, aka the Abbas mini-caliphate, magically become the “Magical Kingdom of Pally’land”?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Do you mean the foreign appointed leaders?

I meant the coup you claimed happened but couldn’t support with fact.

Link?

On The Map with Avi Lewis: Gaza Coup d'Etat?

Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.

 

[Hollie]

Saleh Al-Arouri was performing some world class sucking up before his Shia heroes in Tehran.



He said that Hamas has a strong relationship with Hizbullah and with its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, and he said that he believes that the liberation of Jerusalem is near. Al-Arouri also praised Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, whom he met during his visit to Iran, and he expressed his gratitude for Khamenei's support of the Palestinians. He said that Khamenei is a great leader who is "second to none" in the Islamic world.

 

[Hollie]

Some rather petty games being played by Hamas as a way to attempt to pressure Israel. Israel is seeking release of soldiers captured in 2014 in exchange for medical aid to Gaza. Hamas is refusing to release the soldiers and has issued blustering threats about “six million Israelis may have to stop breathing”.

The captured IsraelI soldiers are of no strategic value to Hamas as the Israelis have shown they won’t cave to Islamic terrorist demands. I suppose Hamas has decided that expendable Arab-Moslem “martyrs”, sacrificed at the altar of viral infections serves the mini-caliphate.

Hamas rejects Israeli conditions to help Gaza confront coronavirus

In recent days, Hamas and Israel witnessed a clear row over providing medical assistance to the Gaza Strip to counter the coronavirus, as Israel stipulated the return of its soldiers captured in the 2...

www.middleeastmonitor.com

In recent days, Hamas and Israel witnessed a clear row over providing medical assistance to the Gaza Strip to counter the coronavirus, as Israel stipulated the return of its soldiers captured in the 2014 war as a condition of providing medical assistance. The Israel media has been calling for Hamas to release the soldiers in order to receive help to combat the coronavirus.

As for Hamas, it announced that it will obtain these humanitarian needs by force, through its leader in Gaza, Yahya Al-Sinwar, who announced that “six million Israelis may have to stop breathing” if Israel is unwilling to supply the Gaza Strip with the necessary respirators for coronavirus patients.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Mahmoud may be having some trouble fogging a mirror so the race is on to be the winner of the mini-caliphate’s presidential jet.

It’s probable that, as noted in the linked article, various islamo-street gangs will take up arms against the competing gangs. At stake is control of millions of welfare dollars and individual fortunes for the winners of the welfare fraud prize.

Hamas will not sit idly by as street warfare consumes the competing mini-caliphate. The ugly (and very messy), civil war that consumed the competing mini-caliphates more than a decade ago may seem mild by comparison.

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article241870541.html

An increasingly intense struggle to succeed the aging and ailing president of the Palestinian National Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, is under way.

The use of armed militias may be key to a contender’s success.

Armed support will be needed if the power struggle turns violent. Such militias could be ordered to take control of symbolic government sites, like the headquarters of the Palestinian Authority presidency in Ramallah, or TV and radio stations. While the PA has not clashed with such militias until now, their presence is a looming one.

It is funny that these propagandists never mention that the constitution lays out the procedures to replace a president.

Of course the US and Israel will not allow that to happen. More of that illegal external interference.

More of your silly conspiracy theories.

If the office of the President of the National Authority becomes vacant due to any of the above cases, the Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council shall assume the powers and duties of the Presidency of the National Authority, temporarily for a period not exceeding (60) sixty days, during which free and direct elections to choose a new president shall take place in accordance with the Palestinian Election Law.

Constitution of Palestine (2003) - Wikisource, the free online library

en.wikisource.org

This won't happen and Palestine will be stuck with another appointed leader.

It’s odd that you would presume Islamic terrorist dictators would abide by a “Constitution”. Isn’t there something in the mini-caliphate Constitution about term limits for dictators?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Not sure what you mean by “Palestine”. When did the West Bank, aka the Abbas mini-caliphate, magically become the “Magical Kingdom of Pally’land”?

Say that out loud to yourself: “term limits for dictators”.

Do you mean the foreign appointed leaders?

Was that gay Egyptian guy appointed?

 

[Shusha]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

Do you mean when the Jews (they weren't even Jews then) immigrated from Egypt.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

How many Jews in Israel can trace their specific family ancestry back to whenever the Jews were invented?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ et al,

Tracing and tracking linage, while interesting to many, is only one way (of several ways) a person or group might be considered a Palestinian. The primary method is cultural assimilation. You are a member of a cultural group if you are recognized as one of their own by the culture. Tracing your linage back thousands of years means nothing.

It is similar to being Jewish or American. To assimulated by the Jewish people, you must go before a type of court to be quizzed. To change your citizenship to American you must take a test. To be Jewish, once you pass the court inquiry, you go to the ritual bath. To be an American, you must be sworn in by oath. When the Allied Powers, at the San Remo Convention, used the phrase: "historical connexion of the Jewish people with Palestine" it simply was not spelled out in any specific way (intentionally). During that period in history "common sense" (sound and valid judgment in practical application) was very important. The intent was to establish the necessary "political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home." It was not to make a binding judgment on "who is Jewish." That would be an internal matter. Just as being American is an internal matter.

You are a "Palestinian" when, (whatever culture you are passing through or communicating with) you are accepted as a Palestinian by the local population (the population for which you are immersed in contact).

REMEMBER: Each Middle Easterner receives an average of one-quarter of their DNA from each of our four grandparents and an average of one-eighth of our DNA from each of our eight great-grandparents ... and so on. So, in 10 Generations, at ≈ 35 to 40 years per generation, takes them back 350 to 400 years (taking you back to the ≈ 1600s). By the 10th Generation, they only inheriting about 0.976% ≈ 1% of the genetic material from those Great, Great... Grand Parents. That is a time when the Ottoman Empire was at its height of Power. And they controlled the entire Middle East → all of the territory which included the modern-day countries of Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, and Israel.​

When the Roman Empire established control of Palestine (63 BC) it did so using the line of hereditary Jewish Kings for ≈700 years. It would be very hard to say, during the time, how many cultures participated in Silk Road that started in Modern-Day Israel and Lebanon in the 1600. How many cultures intermingled and developed in those crossroads.

Just My Thought,

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ et al,

Tracing and tracking linage, while interesting to many, is only one way (of several ways) a person or group might be considered a Palestinian. The primary method is cultural assimilation. You are a member of a cultural group if you are recognized as one of their own by the culture. Tracing your linage back thousands of years means nothing.

It is similar to being Jewish or American. To assimulated by the Jewish people, you must go before a type of court to be quizzed. To change your citizenship to American you must take a test. To be Jewish, once you pass the court inquiry, you go to the ritual bath. To be an American, you must be sworn in by oath. When the Allied Powers, at the San Remo Convention, used the phrase: "historical connexion of the Jewish people with Palestine" it simply was not spelled out in any specific way (intentionally). During that period in history "common sense" (sound and valid judgment in practical application) was very important. The intent was to establish the necessary "political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home." It was not to make a binding judgment on "who is Jewish." That would be an internal matter. Just as being American is an internal matter.

You are a "Palestinian" when, (whatever culture you are passing through or communicating with) you are accepted as a Palestinian by the local population (the population for which you are immersed in contact).

REMEMBER: Each Middle Easterner receives an average of one-quarter of their DNA from each of our four grandparents and an average of one-eighth of our DNA from each of our eight great-grandparents ... and so on. So, in 10 Generations, at ≈ 35 to 40 years per generation, takes them back 350 to 400 years (taking you back to the ≈ 1600s). By the 10th Generation, they only inheriting about 0.976% ≈ 1% of the genetic material from those Great, Great... Grand Parents. That is a time when the Ottoman Empire was at its height of Power. And they controlled the entire Middle East → all of the territory which included the modern-day countries of Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, and Israel.​

When the Roman Empire established control of Palestine (63 BC) it did so using the line of hereditary Jewish Kings for ≈700 years. It would be very hard to say, during the time, how many cultures participated in Silk Road that started in Modern-Day Israel and Lebanon in the 1600. How many cultures intermingled and developed in those crossroads.

Just My Thought,

Most Respectfully,
R

Thanks, Rocco, but that does not answer the question.

It does, however, bring up other questions about immigration and the "civil war."

 

[toastman]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: You don't put the history of the occupation in context.

Art. 43.​

​

Article 43:

◈ The Legitimate Power, having passed the territories by default, on 31 July 1988. In 1994 final settlement was made between the two sovereign powers, Israel and Jordan.​

Art. 46.​

​

The Israelis have full Israeli civil and security control over Area "C."​

​

◈ The Arab Palestinians have not been deprived of family honor.​

​

◈ The concern about Private property confiscation.​

​

✦ Denying safe haven to those engaged in terrorist acts, like other aspects of counter-terrorism can be seen as a human rights obligation of States. Under human rights law, States have an obligation to safeguard the right to life, Israeli as well as Arab Palestinian.​

​

✦ Israel adopted such measures as may be necessary and appropriate and in accordance with their obligations under international law to: Deny safe haven to any persons with respect to whom there is credible and relevant information giving serious reasons for considering that they have been guilty of such conduct.​

Art. 47.

◈ Pillage as a crime is formally forbidden National criteria, IDF Regulation and the ethical practices of the Israelis involved.​

​

◈ Article 47 deals with the "inviolability of rights."​

​

◈ Article 8* War Crimes - (2)(xvi) Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC) - Pillaging a town or place, even when taken by assault; a subject I have no knowledge of in operations to suppress rioters, non-civil disobedience, Jihadism, Fedayeen Activism, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence.​

Art. 50.

◈ Article 50 deals with the cooperation of the national and local authorities, facilitate the proper working of all institutions. Not legal protection in a prosecution. However, in a prosecution;​

​

◈ Except as provided in this Statute, no person shall be tried before the Court concerning conduct which formed the basis of crimes for which the person has been convicted or acquitted by the Court. The ICC prosecutes were individual criminal responsibility has been attached.​

Art. 55.

◈ Again, I bring your attention to the fact that Israelis have full Israeli civil and security control over Area "C" as agreed to by the Arab Palestinians.​

Art. 26, 28, 56.

◈ The hodgepodge of accusatory implications, duplicate challenges, and claims are simply too incredibly vague for me to apply to any specific event or policy.​

(COMMENT)

The policies that generally govern Arab Palestinian consequences promotes actions that maximize the security and protection deemed necessary to secure Israeli interests, territorial integrity, and independence.

While Israel has a vested interest in the happiness and well-being of the affected Arab Palestinians, the general rule of thumb is that how the Israelis deal with the Arab Palestinians has been an evolved process. The reactions and interactions are a consequence of Hostile Arab Palestinian violence.

Anyone of these topics is more complicated then they appear. There is no way they should be made challenges without context to an event and the claims addressed individually.

Most Respectfully,
R

You are still implying that the Palestinians are the aggressors.

How many times would Israel have attacked the Palestinians had they not attacked Israel?

Once.

Starting in 1948 and continuing to today.

You didn’t answer the question . The answer is zero. Israel has NO reason to attack the Palestinians unless they attack Israel

Preposterous, how was Israel to create a Jewish state in Palestine when Palestine was only 1/3 Jewish?

The whole point of recognizing the right of a peoples to self determination is that it doesn't require the consensus of other peoples. Do you want to argue that it does?

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Link that Israelis are foreign settlers?
Of course not

Israel is a country. That is an undeniable fact. Whether you agree with it or not has no affect on this fact.

 

[toastman]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

Cool story. There was still no country called Palestine. So what's your point ?

 

[toastman]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

How many Jews in Israel can trace their specific family ancestry back to whenever the Jews were invented?

Who cares. Israel is a Jewish country and there's nothing you can do about that.

How many Americans can trace back their specific family ancenstry ?

 

[rylah]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

Do you mean when the Jews (they weren't even Jews then) immigrated from Egypt.

When the nation of Israel returned from Egypt to their ancestral land,
most of the inhabitants still spoke Hebrew, no translators were needed,
and all the geographical areas and cities bore their original Hebrew names.

It's native land of the Hebrews, who's direct descendants are Israel.
Philistines by definition were foreign invaders, it's their name.

 

[Shusha]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

How many Jews in Israel can trace their specific family ancestry back to whenever the Jews were invented?

It was your definition. You created the definition of "Palestinians" being those who were there prior to the development of the Jewish people. So how are you going to measure that? How are you going to determine which people fit that definition and are "Palestinians"?

 

[rylah]

Foreign settlers have the right to self determination?

Link?

Of course not.

Don't be silly. The Jewish people have been there for thousands of years.

The Palestinians were already there when the Hebrews came up from Egypt.

The only "real" Palestinians are those who can trace their specific family ancestry back to BEFORE the origins of the Jewish people?

How, exactly, do you plan to measure and enforce that?

How many Jews in Israel can trace their specific family ancestry back to whenever the Jews were invented?

You haven't been to a traditional Jewish wedding haven't you?
Amalekite filth are typically not invited to our celebrations.

We have family trees,
especially the House of David.