The only person dancing is you.
Every. Single. Time. the treaties are quoted to you, you ignore them as though they don't exist.
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No land/border treaties have ever been posted.
Well now you have changed the question. The question originally posed by you (see above) was:
Where are the treaties granting those territories to Israel the Jewish people
Israel is simply the name chosen by the Jewish people for the State which is the fulfillment of the self-determination of the Jewish people.
Self-determination (as you have pointed out often enough yourself) is an inherent right for ALL peoples. The recognition of the right to self-determination for the Jewish peoples is entrenched in the Mandate for Palestine which specifically and exclusively grants the right of self-determination in Palestine to the Jewish people based on their existing historical claim to the land.
Because you dance away from that reality and pretend it doesn't exist, you have to change the question to: Where are the land/border treaties? And you know very well the answer, because you just posted:
Palestine already has international borders.
So, let's ask you this: How do you know "Palestine" has international borders? What treaties establish the international borders of "Palestine". And by golly there is your answer.
Those are the borders of the territory where the Jewish people have internationally recognized self-determination.
So, let's ask you this: How do you know "Palestine" has international borders? What treaties establish the international borders of "Palestine". And by golly there is your answer.
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many times. You need to keep up.
Those are the borders of the territory where the Jewish people have internationally recognized self-determination.
Link?
Oh my, you really are having a hard time figuring out how to dance around this, aren't you?
Let me see if I can walk you through it.
1. The principle for self-determination for all peoples (core principle of IL, ICL, Charter of the United Nations, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights)
To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace; (Article 1.2 Charter of the United Nations).
All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development. (Article 1.1 ICCPR)
2. The rights for self-determination for the Jewish people were legally recognized and entrenched in law based on the Jewish peoples existing right due to their history, ancestry, indigenous origins, long-term presence and prior nation in the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applied. (Mandate for Palestine)
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917, by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favor of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people...
Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country; and
The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble, and the development of self-governing institutions, and also for safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine, irrespective of race and religion.
An appropriate Jewish agency shall be recognised as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish national home and the interests of the Jewish population in Palestine, and, subject always to the control of the Administration to assist and take part in the development of the country.
The Zionist organization, so long as its organization and constitution are in the opinion of the Mandatory appropriate, shall be recognised as such agency. It shall take steps in consultation with His Britannic Majesty's Government to secure the co-operation of all Jews who are willing to assist in the establishment of the Jewish national home.
The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes. (Preamble, Articles 2, 4, 6 of the Mandate for Palestine)
3. The territory to which this self-determination for the Jewish people applies is a result of a number of different principles and treaties. They are: The principle in international law of previous administrative borders being inherited by new sovereigns. (
Uti possidetis juris). The legal encumbrance for the Allied Powers to determine the boundaries of the newly created and emerging States. (Treaty of Lausanne, Mandate for Palestine). The resulting treaties and documents which outline the boundaries determined by the Allied Powers. (Paulet-Newcombe Agreement, 1906 border with Egypt, Mandate for Palestine and the Transjordan Memorandum which excised Transjordan from the territories to which the Mandate for Palestine applies). Confirmation of these boundaries through other treaties (Treaty of Peace Between the State of Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and Treay of Peace between Egypt and Israel).
Turkey hereby renounces all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers laid down in the present Treaty and the islands other than those over which her sovereignty is recognised by the said Treaty, the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned. (Article 16 Treaty of Lausanne).
Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have agreed, for the purpose of giving effect to the provisions of Article 22 of the Covenant of the League of Nations, to entrust to a Mandatory selected by the said Powers the administration of the territory of Palestine, which formerly belonged to the Turkish Empire, within such boundaries as may be fixed by them; (Preamble Mandate for Palestine).
THE FINAL REPORT ON THE DEMARCATION OF THE FRONTIER BETWEEN THE GREAT LEBANON AND SYRIA ON THE ONE SIDE, AND PALESTINE ON THE OTHER SIDE, FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA TO EL HAMM (IN THE LOWER VALLEY OF THE YARMUK) IN PURSUANCE OF ARTICLES I AND 2 OF THE CONVENTION OF PARIS OF DECEMBER 23, 1920. It is agreed between the undersigned, being the commission duly constituted in accordance with article 2 of the said convention, that the boundary between the Mediterranean and-El Hamm6 shall be as follows : The frontier leaves the Mediterranean Sea at the point called Ras-el-Nakurah, and follows the crest of the spur ... (excerpt Franco-British Agreement on Northern Border).
The following provisions of the Mandate for Palestine are not applicable to the territory known as Trans-Jordan, which comprises all territory lying to the east of a line drawn from a point two miles west of the town of Akaba on the Gulf of that name up the centre of the Wady Araba, Dead Sea and River Jordan to its junction with the River Yarmuk; thence up the centre of that river to the Syrian Frontier. (Transjordan Memorandum)
The international boundary between Israel and Jordan is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and co-ordinates specified therein. (Article 3.1Treaty of Peace between the State of Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan).
The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II ... (Article 2 Treaty of Peace between Egypt and Israel).
At this point you can accuse me of many things, but dancing or failing to provide documentary evidence clearly isn't one of them. All of this has been provided for you before. AND I KNOW you agree that international boundaries exist between the territory in question and her neighbors, so continuing to ask for that information is foolish.
