Where did you find the idea that Van Cleveld said that Israel meant to destroy the world if it did not get its way?
Please give me the source of where you read it. Thanks.
Read my previous posts, you will find the quotes and the links.
Ok, let us go back to your first post on this "Part 2" thread, which is supposed to deal with "Who are the Palestinians", but you are using this title not for the purpose of discussing who are the Palestinians, but to attempt to discuss something which was said by Moshe Dayan, how many years ago, and of which you are scared to death, as you do live in Europe.
This is some of what your first post says:
[Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's
The Gun and the Olive Branch(2003) as saying:
We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General
Moshe Dayan:
'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.'
I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third.
We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[30]
Samson Option - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia]
Now, we are about 15 years away from what Van Creveld allegedly said. Since then, we have had
1) a massive immigration of Muslims into Europe
2) an increase of Muslim terrorist attacks in Europe
3) Iran has been somewhat freed to work on Nuclear capabilities, and has threatened Israel and the USA with destroying each of them.
4) North Korea has been firing missiles over Japan, and threatening Israel and the USA with those missiles.
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First of all, without understanding why anyone in Israel would have said the above, if indeed they did, you seem to be hiding in your panic room and screaming for help.
Here is an article I found showing how sound Van Cleverd's words are,
assuming he ever said them:
https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2010/03/12/martin-van-creveld-victim-of-intellectual-fraud/
Read it. Several times.
If you do realize that indeed Frontstorrm or any other anti Israel site is where you got all this panicky idea that Israel has every intention of destroying Europe first, then you do have something to work on.
Ask yourself this question:
1) If Israel was at war with Hamas, PLO and Hezbollah, as it is, and was dealing with Intifadas and wars from all of them which were killing hundreds of Jews in Israel, why in the world would Israel bother to nuke Europe and not any of its enemies?
So in other words, you take the "Sampson Option" as some others have brought up "Plan Dalet" and try to make omelet out of it.
But what you are truly coming up with, without knowing it, is rotten eggs.
You are attempting to force an "option" as if it was the "first option".
The USA and all other countries have "options" and the USA does have the "nuclear option" as well in case Iran, North Korea or any other country actually attempted to fire a nuclear missile against it.
Does it mean that it is going to fire a Nuclear missile first, or just because? Of course not.
The USA, Israel, India and many others, have the Nuclear option as a deterrent against those who have many times expressed the desire to obliterate those countries. Especially in the case of Israel and the USA.
Art, drink some tea. Have some cumprets or whichever delicatessen you enjoy the most.
Stop worrying, and especially stop accusing Israel of what it has no intention of doing, especially first.
If you are not worried about Iran, North Korea, and a few others instead of Israel, then you truly have some issues to deal with.
No one, in their right mind, is taking your severe panics seriously.
