Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: General Question
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I'm not at all sure that the Palestinian National Movement (PNM) actually has a central theme. I believe that the Palestinians are divided on the subject of goal, and objective.

PA PM Shtayyeh repeats Abbas’ vow that last penny will be paid to terrorist prisoners​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Sep 30, 2021

(COMMENT)

While the issue of prisoners is one of the 9 topical issues on the open agenda expressed by the Negotiations Affairs Department (NAD), it is a domestic issue within the General Palestinian Population (GPP).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: General Question
⁜→ Hollie, et al,

BLUF: I'm not at all sure that the Palestinian National Movement (PNM) actually has a central theme. I believe that the Palestinians are divided on the subject of goal, and objective.


(COMMENT)

While the issue of prisoners is one of the 9 topical issues on the open agenda expressed by the Negotiations Affairs Department (NAD), it is a domestic issue within the General Palestinian Population (GPP).

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestinians have a constitutional mandate to take care of their people. Foreign name calling does not change that.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: General Question
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Palestinians have a constitutional mandate to take care of their people. Foreign name calling does not change that.

(COMMENT)

A valid and sound description is nomenclature with a definition - not name-calling.

Tell us how well the Arab Palestinians are leading their country...

R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: General Question
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,


(COMMENT)

A valid and sound description is nomenclature with a definition - not name-calling.

Tell us how well the Arab Palestinians are leading their country...

R

Israel plays anti Semite and terrorist cards by the case. Like they are trying to sell something.

 

[Hollie]

Israel plays anti Semite and terrorist cards by the case. Like they are trying to sell something.

Link?

 

[Hollie]

The Palestinians have a constitutional mandate to take care of their people. Foreign name calling does not change that.

They have an ideological mandate to fulfill the goals of a 7th century war lord. 1,400 years of human progress has not changed that..

 

[P F Tinmore]

Link?

Show me anything out of Israel that does not play anti Semite and/or terrorist cards.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: General Question
⁜→ Hollie, P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Window-dressing Mandates and signed Agreements mean absolutely nothing to the Arab Palestinians. The promise made by an Arab Palestinian is (in reality tested in practice) worthless.

P F Tinmore said:
The Palestinians have a constitutional mandate to take care of their people. Foreign name calling does not change that.

They have an ideological mandate to fulfill the goals of a 7th century war lord. 1,400 years of human progress has not changed that..

(COMMENT)

It is not about "ideology" and certainly not about a continuation of human development (what little they have accomplished in the last thousand years). It is about a struggle for the accumulation of wealth and the presentation of power. The Arab League does not want radicals on two sides.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Show me anything out of Israel that does not play anti Semite and/or terrorist cards.

It's up to you to support your claim.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's up to you to support your claim.

There are Israeli Propaganda sites posted all over the place. Pick one. Here is your last one.

PA PM Shtayyeh repeats Abbasâ vow that last penny will be paid to terrorist prisoners | PMW Translations

PA Prime Minister Muhammad Shtayyeh: “From our perspective, the prisoners are the heart of the Palestinian national movement throughout history… The US is punishing us, and Israel is punishing us because we are taking care of the prisoners’ affairs. As President Abbas says: “Even if we are left...”

palwatch.org

 

[Hollie]

There are Israeli Propaganda sites posted all over the place. Pick one. Here is your last one.

PA PM Shtayyeh repeats Abbasâ vow that last penny will be paid to terrorist prisoners | PMW Translations

PA Prime Minister Muhammad Shtayyeh: “From our perspective, the prisoners are the heart of the Palestinian national movement throughout history… The US is punishing us, and Israel is punishing us because we are taking care of the prisoners’ affairs. As President Abbas says: “Even if we are left...”

palwatch.org

So..... are we to believe that youtube and facebook are Zionist propaganda sites because they carry the rants of islamic terrorist misfits?

 

[Hollie]

Self-delusion and denial with regard to the Pallys promotion and sponsorship of terrorism is rampant among the international community. There is no possibility of detoxifying the hatred Pally misfits feel for Israelis and Westerners when both of those parties tacitly or actively finance and enable Pally islamic terrorism.

Fatah and PA municipality erect monument in honor of terrorist murderer | PMW Analysis

Fatah and Jenin Municipality are currently in the process of erecting this monument for terrorist murderer Kamal Abu Wa’er

palwatch.org

Fatah and PA municipality erect monument in honor of terrorist murderer​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik and Itamar Marcus | Oct 1, 2021

This monument in honor of terrorist murderer Kamal Abu Wa’er exemplifies the great efforts the PA and Fatah spend on inculcating in the minds of Palestinians the ideology that terrorist murderers are heroes and role models.

 

[Hollie]

"Pallys complain''. They complain about everything.

As the Arab Middle East continues to see (and tacitly admit) the economic and social benefits of trade, commerce and industry with Israel, the Pallys are going to be marginalized and ignored.

Palestinians Complain That Some Arab States Are Not Following Their Orders

The Palestinians are enraged that the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain are attempting to block their resolution, to be voted on at the upcoming Arab League meeting, that condemns the UAE’s “normalization” of relations with Israel. The story is here. The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and other...

www.jihadwatch.org

The Palestinians are enraged that the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain are attempting to block their resolution, to be voted on at the upcoming Arab League meeting, that condemns the UAE’s “normalization” of relations with Israel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

On Thursday, the Commodore Hotel in Gaza hosted a Hamas-sponsored conference called "The Promise of the Hereafter - Palestine after Liberation," a science-fiction fantasy of what things would look like when Hamas defeats Israel.

The final communique of the conference described things like how the new Palestine would inherit Israel's borders with Egypt and Jordan and maritime agreements with Greece, for example.

But what would happen to the Jews?

According to the final statement, here is what would happen to Israel's Jews.

Members of the IDF must be fought and presumably killed.

Jewish "fugitives" can be prosecuted for their crimes.

"Pacifists" who surrender to Hamas and accept their rule "can be accommodated or allowed to leave" - this is an issue that deserves closer consideration, according to the statement. So even Jews who want to be second class dhimmis under Muslim rule would not automatically become citizens.

But Hamas doesn't want to ethnically cleanse all the Jews immediately. After all, the Jews are smart and know how to run a nation!

[We must] keep the Jews, scholars and experts in the fields of medicine, engineering, technology, civil and military industry, for a while and not let them leave with the knowledge, science and experience they acquired while they reside on our land and eat our good, and we pay the price for all of that from our humiliation, poverty, disease, deprivation, killing and imprisonment.

It is funny that even Hamas admits that Palestinians cannot run a state without learning what they need to learn from the Jews.

Also, it is a priority to take over Israeli intelligence information to hunt down Jews and friends of Jews around the world:

(full article online)

Hamas-sponsored conference determines what to do with the Jews after "liberation of Palestine"

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[Iamartiewhitefox]

Well, it seems that Zionists threaten with the death of our entire planet, if their regime is in danger:




How can you negotiate with people who have chosen to behave like "mad dogs"?
How can you negotiate with people who threaten to destroy the entire planet?

Muslims. Some Muslims say they are not Muslims, still being Muslims talking about Islam.

 

[Sixties Fan]

According to a brief statement by the Israel Defense Forces spokesperson’s unit, “a bag containing grenades was seized from the suspects.”

“The suspects were taken for questioning by security forces,” the statement further added.

Last week the Israeli military announced that it thwarted a series of terrorist attacks Hamas planned to carry out against Israeli targets, on the heels of escalating clashes in the West Bank.

(full article online)

IDF Arrest 2 Gazans Trying to Infiltrate into Israel Armed with Grenades - Algemeiner.com

i24 News – Israeli security forces on Saturday arrested two Palestinian suspects who tried to cross into Israeli territory from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. According to a brief statement by the Israel Defense Forces spokesperson's unit, "a bag containing grenades was seized from the...

www.algemeiner.com

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

According to a brief statement by the Israel Defense Forces spokesperson’s unit, “a bag containing grenades was seized from the suspects.”

“The suspects were taken for questioning by security forces,” the statement further added.

Last week the Israeli military announced that it thwarted a series of terrorist attacks Hamas planned to carry out against Israeli targets, on the heels of escalating clashes in the West Bank.

(full article online)

IDF Arrest 2 Gazans Trying to Infiltrate into Israel Armed with Grenades - Algemeiner.com

i24 News – Israeli security forces on Saturday arrested two Palestinian suspects who tried to cross into Israeli territory from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. According to a brief statement by the Israel Defense Forces spokesperson's unit, "a bag containing grenades was seized from the...

www.algemeiner.com

Jewish people lived on all of that land 300 years before Muslim was a name. Muslims tried to obliterate all life around them when they came to be. God is long suffering towards them wanting them to change. They are resisting God's Spirit.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Palestinian Media Watch has documented that the PA regularly presents terrorists as role models. One of the most lauded role models in Palestinian society, and for women in particular, is terrorist murderer Dalal Mughrabi who led the killing of 37 Israelis, among them 12 children, in 1978.

Therefore it was positive sign when a column in the official PA daily highlighted the achievements of female students, stressing that their grade averages were higher than male students, adding that this refutes the male chauvinist view that women are less capable and should stay at home:

“The rate of female students who succeeded in the high school final exams and the fact that they lead their male counterparts in the first ten places (i.e., the ten students with the highest grade averages) debunked all the claims of those sounding the expression: ‘Women are mentally and religiously inferior,’ and those who say that a woman’s place is in the home.”
[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Aug. 5, 2021]

And not only did the column say that female students did better in high school exams, but it singled out 3 female engineers:

“Alaa Abu Awad, Diala Andonia, Mais Bani Odeh, and Majd Al-Malki are four young engineers. As we see, three of the group are women. They participated in an international competition… and their project that deals with rehabilitating the Beirut Port won… They reached first place out of 24 projects from 13 states.”
[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Aug. 5, 2021]

So are positive role models for Palestinian women going to replace terrorist role models?

Probably not. Unfortunately the last sentence in the article reverts back to the standard terror supporting PA ideology. Having given Palestinian women credit for their academic achievements, the columnist ends mentioning Palestinian women’s fundamental role as supporters of terrorists:

“behind every fighter, Martyr, or prisoner stands a lauded woman.”

Female engineers presented as role models for Palestinian women â an alternative to glorifying female terrorists? | PMW Analysis

Are positive role models for Palestinian women emerging? Possibly — but this does not replace their fundamental role, which is supporting terrorists

palwatch.org

 

[Hollie]

Interesting negotiating tactic used by the islamic terrorists. Prior to a meeting about some 'two state' solution, Abbas makes a call to the parents of psychopaths he creates.

Think 'peace partners'.

Before meeting Meretz ministers, Abbas called parents of Palestinian attackers

Palestinian Authority leader spoke with fathers of men who tried to stab police in Jerusalem, shoot troops in West Bank; Israeli opposition pans talks in Ramallah

www.timesofisrael.com

Ahead of a meeting with ministers from the Meretz party on Sunday, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas spoke with the parents of two Palestinians who were killed recently as they carried out attacks on Israeli security forces.

Official Palestinian news agency Wafa reported that Abbas called the father of Israa Khuzaimia, who police said was shot dead last Thursday as she tried to stab officers in the Old City of Jerusalem. Abbas offered his condolences over the death of Khuzaimia, 30, a mother of four.

 

[Sixties Fan]

This article in Khabar Press is more bizarre than the usual Palestinian analyses of Israel.

Bassam Abu Sharif, a former leader of the PFLP and later an advisor to Yasir Arafat, manages to contradict himself within the same paragraph, after he claimed that Naftali Bennett's UN speech was a veiled threat to Israel's - allies.

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Abu Sharif goes on to say that Israel only uses these completely unnecessary threats when the world is turning against it, to keep alive its territorial ambitions on the West Bank - and the East Bank.

He goes on to describe how close Israel is to collapse, and how it leads the world in money laundering and drug smuggling in Europe. He ends off by giving Israeli Jews some advice:

If I were in the place of any citizen in Israel, I would start packing my bags to go home in New York, Paris, Brussels or Amsterdam.

Abu Sharif has shown a penchant for hallucinations previously. He once said that David Ben Gurion was responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy, and Yemenite Jews were going to assassinate Barack Obama and blame Al Qaeda.

(full article online)

PLO leader and former advisor to Arafat: Israel threatens defense contractors, led by Jews, to give them weapons

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